"One of the best presidents in the country right now...."

phreddyp

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I dunno. It's a good school. What it clearly says to me is, you can earn a degree AND still be dumb as a post. SEEN that at my workplace, where people know the technology cold, but fail to understand how things work. In the computer world, there's often the case where the stuff you learned in school is TOTALLY different from the stuff you'll use on the job.
It's called being educated beyond their intelligence.
 

SamSpade

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It's called being educated beyond their intelligence.
I tended to see it as people who learned exactly what the book said or how to do the problems. That's how my mom was able to slide through her math classes in college. She didn't understand it at all, but she could plug into a formula if the question was worded right.
 

phreddyp

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I tended to see it as people who learned exactly what the book said or how to do the problems. That's how my mom was able to slide through her math classes in college. She didn't understand it at all, but she could plug into a formula if the question was worded right.
Feel free to explain the difference to me.
 

SamSpade

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Feel free to explain the difference to me.
From the sound of it, it sounds like you're trying to say, there's no difference. I think it's clear that there's a huge difference between being able to recite an answer from a book, and being able to understand it well enough to interpret it in new situations, because life doesn't offer problems that are set up neatly for you. A really simple example I can think of is the number of persons I knew in the 90's who could not grasp something as simple as a computer file - so a feature like a file directory structure made no sense to them at all. They thought the only way to see a file was to open the application they created it in.

My mom could only solve math problems if the problem was asked in a way where she was given a formula and the variables were NAMED in the problem. She really had no idea what it meant. I have the same challenge teaching math to my youngest, who still doesn't grasp simple arithmetic - she guesses, because it might as well be spells and witchcraft.

One of my very favorite books is an autobiography of sorts by the physicist Richard Feynmann - I say, of sorts, because it's clear that it's more of a collection of parts of his life arranged in chronological order, such as lectures or stories he told others, but doesn't really appear to be intended to tell his life. And in one of the chapters, he tells of his time teaching in Brazil.

Here, I found a link to that section --


Go ahead, he's amazingly readable, but it perfectly encapsulates my concept - knowing the material, but not at all understanding it in any way.
 

Bluecrqbe

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Before the archives of this forum were purged there were hundreds of messages and threads in support of W. I was here for them, as truby, but we don’t talk about that now do we?

I voted for Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Clinton, Biden.

I’ll defend every vote..ask the “patriots” here how much they support that W vote.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
Before the archives of this forum were purged there were hundreds of messages and threads in support of W. I was here for them, as truby, but we don’t talk about that now do we?

I voted for Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Clinton, Biden.

I’ll defend every vote..ask the “patriots” here how much they support that W vote.
It kept Gore and Kerry out. That makes it priceless.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Before the archives of this forum were purged there were hundreds of messages and threads in support of W. I was here for them, as truby, but we don’t talk about that now do we?

Yeah I thought that was you, with your snarks about a ' local web forum '

How many times HAVE YOU BEEN BANNED
 

phreddyp

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Before the archives of this forum were purged there were hundreds of messages and threads in support of W. I was here for them, as truby, but we don’t talk about that now do we?

I voted for Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Clinton, Biden.

I’ll defend every vote..ask the “patriots” here how much they support that W vote.
What was wrong with W ?
 

phreddyp

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From the sound of it, it sounds like you're trying to say, there's no difference. I think it's clear that there's a huge difference between being able to recite an answer from a book, and being able to understand it well enough to interpret it in new situations, because life doesn't offer problems that are set up neatly for you. A really simple example I can think of is the number of persons I knew in the 90's who could not grasp something as simple as a computer file - so a feature like a file directory structure made no sense to them at all. They thought the only way to see a file was to open the application they created it in.

My mom could only solve math problems if the problem was asked in a way where she was given a formula and the variables were NAMED in the problem. She really had no idea what it meant. I have the same challenge teaching math to my youngest, who still doesn't grasp simple arithmetic - she guesses, because it might as well be spells and witchcraft.

One of my very favorite books is an autobiography of sorts by the physicist Richard Feynmann - I say, of sorts, because it's clear that it's more of a collection of parts of his life arranged in chronological order, such as lectures or stories he told others, but doesn't really appear to be intended to tell his life. And in one of the chapters, he tells of his time teaching in Brazil.

Here, I found a link to that section --


Go ahead, he's amazingly readable, but it perfectly encapsulates my concept - knowing the material, but not at all understanding it in any way.
Still sounds like being educated beyond their intelligence to me, you either grasp a concept or you don't. Seems to me that someone who is a degreed person in one field but stupid in common sense or any other discipline is generally educated beyond their intelligence. Being able to remember without grasping the concept doesn't mean you are intelligent just means you have a great memory.
 

vraiblonde

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So is she a bartender or an international relations expert and economist? Because she ran as a bartender. And a thinking person would have to ask why, if she's so educationally accomplished and plugged into heavy hitters like Kennedy, she was supporting herself as a bartender and STILL can't manage to pay off her student loans after 3 years with a cushy congressional paycheck.

She got a million dollar book deal about 5 minutes after she was elected - WHY can't she pay her debts?

Nobody asks these questions. I mean, I do but I just get ignored.
 

Clem72

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Neither would have taken us into the multi trillion Iraq war, which Trump killed Jeb over during the primaries.

Are you for real?

No, Gore would have been a trainwreck. Could you imagine, a guy that can't spell potato and spends all his spare time hunting the ellusive manbearpig?
 

SamSpade

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No, Gore would have been a trainwreck. Could you imagine, a guy that can't spell potato and spends all his spare time hunting the ellusive manbearpig?
THAT was Quayle, and I think he got a raw deal, because he "corrected" a correctly spelled word because that's what the teacher wrote on the flashcard.

But I could never stand Gore - during the Gulf War, he was prepared to vote EITHER WAY, on the condition he got TV time. I remember that - I was listening to C-SPAN radio, and I couldn't believe a Senator - one that all my UT co-workers liked - was that - I don't even know the word. His integrity could be bought cheaply.

For all his bluster about being an intellectual, his college grades were mediocre and he has never impressed me as a real scholar. I was disgusted with his campaign raising in office, declaring after Clinton failed to be removed that Clinton was the most moral man ever to hold the office.

His behavior during the recount was petty. His campaign constantly pushed for recounts in counties that would help him. A subsequent, unofficial review of the ballots showed that Bush would have won anyway, except on the narrowest of scrutiny rules. He would introduce himself as "I used to be President".

He was the guy who referred to the Republicans as the "extra chromosome" party. I personally credit HIM for the vulgar antics politics has become today.

And he is the consummate hypocrite on climate change. Still jetting around the world, he is the poster boy for huge carbon footprints, while earning his living chastising the world. His alarmist fiction "An Inconvenient Truth" needs to placed next to every other doom cult that ever arose.
 

Clem72

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THAT was Quayle, and I think he got a raw deal, because he "corrected" a correctly spelled word because that's what the teacher wrote on the flashcard.
Damn, how did I misremember that. It's not like it was a small fad, it was basically required to mention potatoe every time you said his name for 20+ years.
 
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