Only 1 guy without a mask

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Smith

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Goldenhawk said:
I hope you realize that wearing a mask is not for YOUR protection; it's for everyone else's.

Are you willing to unwittingly be the person that kills someone by infecting them or their elderly loved ones, even if you didn't know you were sick?

Please wear a mask for the sake of other people around you, even if you don't think you're infectious.
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This keeps getting repeated by many people even though it defies logic. A mask does not protect the wearer from the virus, yet is somehow supposed to protect everyone else from the virus. o_O
 
itsbob

itsbob

I bowl overhand
spr1975wshs said:
I asked one of my managers today at Lowe's why we were letting folks in the store without face coverings.
They cut me off and said they did not want to discuss it.
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Better question.. Why are ANY stores requiring masks??

I generally don't spoon people in Lowe's, so I don't understand why we should have to take any precautions in there that we don't normally take.
 
itsbob

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Goldenhawk said:
I don't think it's an assumption. It's a risk analysis, leading to a simple question. Lots of folks in this town work daily with risk mitigation, called "flight test." How do we do dangerous stuff safely? We analyze risk factors, and control for them. And sometimes we still do risky stuff because the cost of lowering the risk is too high, but the work is too important to not do it. So sometimes we accept risk.

We know it's easy to spread; if you believe many folks on these forums, 15-20% of some populations already have it.

We know it can be spread before symptoms appear, or even by people who never have symptoms.

We know it's lethal to certain people; nursing home infections prove that. Even when not lethal, some 25% of symptomatic infections result in hospitalization.

We know that masks help contain it, because of numerous studies showing infectious particles float in the air for up to 3 hours from people who talk loudly, sneeze, or cough.

So one cost of mitigating that risk is simply wearing a face mask. It's really a pretty easy way of helping the community around us.

Since the result of that risk may easily be deadly, especially to the elderly and immune-compromised, it's a question everyone should ask. Are you PERSONALLY willing to live with the fact that you might unwittingly be the cause of someone else's hospitalization and medical bills and potential death, because you're not taking a simple step?
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Not sure.. has any testing been done on the efficacy of even 10% of the crap that people are wearing to meet the construct of a "mask",

I think most of the masks I've seen are more dangerous than the retards wearing gloves.. and then picking up a sandwich and eating it.
 
PeoplesElbow

PeoplesElbow

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Smith said:
This keeps getting repeated by many people even though it defies logic. A mask does not protect the wearer from the virus, yet is somehow supposed to protect everyone else from the virus. o_O
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It keeps their spit contained and from flying too far. Ever see a loud mouthed fast food worker talking loudly over the food being made and spit flying out of their mouth?
 
Bann

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
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SailorGirl said:
I had heard that, but that was long before I moved here.
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When I was in high school, this was a thing at Duke's Bar in Leonardtown!

In the 80's when I worked in Forrestville, there was a liquor store up on Woodyard Road and they used to sell drinks to go, also! We'd get cocktails on the way home from work! :lol:
 
Goldenhawk

Goldenhawk

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Smith said:
This keeps getting repeated by many people even though it defies logic. A mask does not protect the wearer from the virus, yet is somehow supposed to protect everyone else from the virus. o_O
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It may defy your own logic but it doesn't defy science and hard data. Do you assume that all those doctors and scientists out there begging you to wear masks are lying for some reason? Do you assume medical professionals have worn masks for years purely for style reasons?

Plenty of studies have concluded that facemasks reduce the risk of infection against this COVID-19 and also multiple studies of previous coronaviruses prior to 2020. If both people are wearing a mask, the risk of spreading an airborne viral disease drops dramatically.

This study shows that even homemade masks offer significant protection - not as much as a true N95 respirator, but still significant.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Testing the efficacy of homemade masks: would they protect in an influenza pandemic? - PubMed

Our findings suggest that a homemade mask should only be considered as a last resort to prevent droplet transmission from infected individuals, but it would be better than no protection.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This article examines data from several studies of Hajj mass gatherings in Muslim countries, where significant numbers of pilgrims have begun wearing masks; while some studies were inconclusive, the meta-study concluded that masks offer significant protection against illness.
www.sciencedirect.com

Uptake and effectiveness of facemask against respiratory infections at mass gatherings: a systematic review

The risk of acquisition and transmission of respiratory infections is high among attendees of mass gatherings (MGs). Currently used interventions have…
www.sciencedirect.com www.sciencedirect.com

Many studies show that N95 masks are by far the most effective, but other types still cut the risk significantly. The better the fit and the filtration, the better the results.

It's true that a poorly fitted homemade simple cloth facemask without any filter won't really do much on the recipient's end. But on the sick person's end, it actually helps a lot. Even a cloth filter traps the large aerosol particles that CONTAIN the virus, before they can disperse into the air. Once that happens, the liquids evaporate and leave behind much smaller particles that won't be easy to filter.

One particular key to wearing a mask: You've got to assume it's polluted once you've worn it. If it did its job and trapped virus particles in the filter material, you can't be touching the outer surface when you take it off, or you'll just transfer them to your hands.
 
Grumpy

Grumpy

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SailorGirl said:
Weren't there drinking and driving laws or did they just assume you would drink it when you got home?
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I remember getting pulled over at 16 with a case of beer between me and a passenger and all we worried about was whether he would take our beer and tell us to go home or just tell us to go home.
 
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