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TPD

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Read more: The truth about the Ryan-Biden debate | Fox News

"For his part, Joe Biden is a party hack called upon to defend an agenda which he did not design and of which he likely only partially approves. Beyond the challenges he has in public speaking, Biden is not in Ryan’s league when it comes to understanding issues and grasping the problems America faces. The difference between a genius and a hack will be evident in Thursday’s debate."
 
ginwoman

ginwoman

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I imagine they will try to prepare him. It will be interesting. I hope Paul eats him a new one.
 
MMDad

MMDad

Lem Putt
Ryan has to be careful not to be mean to the Grandpa standing next to him. If Gaffetastic Joe shows up, all Ryan will have to do is not screw up in order to win.

Ryan should go for the tie rather than risk the big play. Biden must win big or else. All the pressure is on Biden.
 
MarieB

MarieB

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Baz said:
Go STEELERS!!! :yahoo:
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The debate is on before the game.

Will the game only be televised to those who subscribe to NFL Network?

edit - I was wrong. I thought it was on a 7ET, but it's 9ET. Why would they plan it for tonight?!
 
SamSpade

SamSpade

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If this was strictly an intellectual boxing match, Biden would be knocked out early in the first round. But it's not. Biden does have a lot more experience in public speaking and he is much better at conveying that he is just a regular guy with a lot of passion.

For all the talk about Biden's foreign policy cred, he voted against the first Iraq War - voted FOR the second one - and proposed cutting Iraq up into three parts. You would be hard pressed to find one item on which Biden could claim success on. He has experience - he does not have accomplishments.

Ryan is smart, fit and can speak right to you. He does NOT have the natural ability to distill ideas into short memorable phrases. He DOES know Romney's tax plans - he's the author. Biden would be smart to stay away from it.

I think one of the things that hurt Obama is precisely something I predicted - he sucks when he's mad, and the debate got him plenty mad. But I think what got his nerves is similar to what I had said - he is just not used to an environment where people don't fawn all over him. It's damned uncomfortable for him. He wasn't used to being told he's wrong - and convincingly.

Biden doesn't seem to have that failing. He's USED to being wrong. He's been making verbal gaffes since the '88 campaign. You can't beat him just by getting him pissed off. It won't work. He won't fall for it - he has a thick skin.

What WILL work is, Biden is - just like Obama - used to having other people do his thinking for him, and using that information. (Obama did that plenty in the first debate, and Romney shut it down. Of course, since then, Obama has whined that Romney was lying). Ryan is not - he's the guy who does the research himself. He just needs to be on his toes enough to catch the mistakes, because Joe is sure to make them.

What Ryan NEEDS to do is not play defense - he's not defending four years of Obama. Biden is, and I don't think he wants to defend him.
 
Baz

Baz

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MarieB said:
The debate is on before the game.

Will the game only be televised to those who subscribe to NFL Network?

edit - I was wrong. I thought it was on a 7ET, but it's 9ET. Why would they plan it for tonight?!
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Yes, you have to have NFL Network to see it. If you subscribe to an enhanced sports tier of some kind from your television provider, you might have NFL Network included in that package.

As for the debate, yeah, it's seems odd they'd put it on up against NFL football. Maybe they don't care about the amount of live viewers it draws in, as people can DVR it if they're interested, or watch a replay of it online. :shrug:
 
SamSpade

SamSpade

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Baz said:
As for the debate, yeah, it's seems odd they'd put it on up against NFL football. Maybe they don't care about the amount of live viewers it draws in, as people can DVR it if they're interested, or watch a replay of it online. :shrug:
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The last VP debate in 2008 drew around 70 million viewers; the BEST Thursday Night viewership for NFL football - ever - was 8.6 million, with an average of about 800,000.

Complaining that they're competing is like comparing the Super Bowl viewership to the Puppy Bowl.
 
Baz

Baz

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SamSpade said:
The last VP debate in 2008 drew around 70 million viewers; the BEST Thursday Night viewership for NFL football - ever - was 8.6 million, with an average of about 800,000.

Complaining that they're competing is like comparing the Super Bowl viewership to the Puppy Bowl.
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Who's complaining?
 
migtig

migtig

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SamSpade said:
The last VP debate in 2008 drew around 70 million viewers; the BEST Thursday Night viewership for NFL football - ever - was 8.6 million, with an average of about 800,000.

Complaining that they're competing is like comparing the Super Bowl viewership to the Puppy Bowl.
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I watch the Puppy Bowl every year. I can't say the same about the Super Bowl. :roflmao: Sad but true.
 
SamSpade

SamSpade

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migtig said:
I watch the Puppy Bowl every year. I can't say the same about the Super Bowl. :roflmao: Sad but true.
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We do too, but the Puppy Bowl is on all day - and repeats. Entertaining for the kids.

I'm not the sports fan my friends are - they watch the baseball playoffs and World Series, Stanley Cup and hockey finals, and all of the football post-season - no matter who is in it. Ditto March Madness.

I only care if MY teams make it. Otherwise I don't care.

My point was that the VP debate outdraws - by a factor of 10 to 20 - everything else on TV. It's weird to wonder why it would be placed against a football broadcast. I can just hear a kid wondering why they would put it against a new SpongeBob episode, as though that had any relevance.
 
Lurk

Lurk

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MarieB said:
The debate is on before the game.

Will the game only be televised to those who subscribe to NFL Network?

edit - I was wrong. I thought it was on a 7ET, but it's 9ET. Why would they plan it for tonight?!
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There are fewer Steeler fans than there are thinking voters?
 
MarieB

MarieB

New Member
SamSpade said:
We do too, but the Puppy Bowl is on all day - and repeats. Entertaining for the kids.

I'm not the sports fan my friends are - they watch the baseball playoffs and World Series, Stanley Cup and hockey finals, and all of the football post-season - no matter who is in it. Ditto March Madness.

I only care if MY teams make it. Otherwise I don't care.

My point was that the VP debate outdraws - by a factor of 10 to 20 - everything else on TV. It's weird to wonder why it would be placed against a football broadcast. I can just hear a kid wondering why they would put it against a new SpongeBob episode, as though that had any relevance.
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I was joking :)
 
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