Pal'ing around with terrorists

[This_person]

You mean bowing like Trump saluting a North Korean official? Or kissing Putins ass?

It has been clearly established you are racist and could never respect a Black man as president. Trump has done far worse than bowing ( which is a normal culture nicety )

I wouldn't trust Trump to clean a cat litter box. The title of President has been sullied by him and won't be restored till someone with a modicum of decency is elected.

While saluting a military official is a reciprocal effort, bowing is not. A bow represents subservience, and we fought a whole war against the Brits to rid ourselves, as a nation, of subservience to royalty (note, Obama never bowed to the Queen of England).

But, that's way beyond the point.

The title "president" in and of it self doesnt demand respect this isn't a dictatorship no matter what Trump tells you

This, right here, is actually the point. You think the office "in and of itself does not demand respect". You are a member of the cult of personality, not the rule of law. You think you should respect the office only if the "correct" person is in it.

On that, you are wrong. On that, you need to be corrected. On that, you are horrifically hypocritical about the rule of law.

It is the very basis for your being wrong on SO many things.

Again, admitting the problem is a huge part of solving the problem, so having you say these things is great towards getting you corrected.

 

[Sapidus]

So, who’s your pick of the 20 geniuses your party has running?

I would like tis ee a return to decency, morals and ethics
There are at least 3 i would vote for over Trump at the moment.

Not a single one has attacked any parts of america or any americans as being less than any other, none have used vulrgaities or cheated on their spouses with porn stars while bribing the porn stars to keep silent and having their friends who are publishers purchase the series form the porn stars to bury it.

Seems like good start

I know. Thats a very low bar but thats where we are as a country

 

[Kyle]

(note, Obama never bowed to the Queen of England).

He reserved that for other muslims.

 

[Sapidus]

While saluting a military official is a reciprocal effort, bowing is not. A bow represents subservience, and we fought a whole war against the Brits to rid ourselves, as a nation, of subservience to royalty (note, Obama never bowed to the Queen of England).

But, that's way beyond the point.



This, right here, is actually the point. You think the office "in and of itself does not demand respect". You are a member of the cult of personality, not the rule of law. You think you should respect the office only if the "correct" person is in it.

On that, you are wrong. On that, you need to be corrected. On that, you are horrifically hypocritical about the rule of law.

It is the very basis for your being wrong on SO many things.

Again, admitting the problem is a huge part of solving the problem, so having you say these things is great towards getting you corrected.

god you are dumb. You blather on about how we need not show respect to the role of Queen and then go on and say that the role of president demands respect.

Bowing is done by both parties in most transactions in japan and is not considered subservient it is consider a greeting and sign of respect.

Learn something.


A person no matter what their title needs to earn respect and Trump has done little to earn it. In fact every day he degrades and tarnishes it a little more.

 

[Bird Dog]

I would like tis ee a return to decency, morals and ethics
There are at least 3 i would vote for over Trump at the moment.

Not a single one has attacked any parts of america or any americans as being less than any other, none have used vulrgaities or cheated on their spouses with porn stars while bribing the porn stars to keep silent and having their friends who are publishers purchase the series form the porn stars to bury it.

Seems like good start

I know. Thats a very low bar but thats where we are as a country

So, policy and agenda have no importance.....just morals. How progressive of you.....

 

[This_person]

god you are dumb. You blather on about how we need not show respect to the role of Queen and then go on and say that the role of president demands respect.

Bowing is done by both parties in most transactions in japan and is not considered subservient it is consider a greeting and sign of respect.

Learn something.


A person no matter what their title needs to earn respect and Trump has done little to earn it. In fact every day he degrades and tarnishes it a little more.

Bowing is not done by Americans to other nations' royalty. You clearly don't understand why. Done by the President - the chief diplomat representing the country - it is wrong to the nth degree.

You don't get that, I understand. That's ok, you seem young and stupid, so I'm sure you'll learn that eventually.

We can agree that a person needs to earn respect as a person. However, an office deserves respect as well. The office of President of the United States deserves respect, and thus the holder of that office deserves respect for holding it.

You can agree or be wrong, it's your choice. I'm done with you on this subject.

 

[Sapidus]

So, policy and agenda have no importance.....just morals. How progressive of you.....

Why cant you read?

I said that was a good start. From there we can start discussing policy.

But even if not why are morals so scary to you?

 

[GoodnessME]

HAHAH To assume anyone thinks Trump is as good an orator, negotiator , leader or anywhere nearly as intelligent as Obama is laughable.

Why then does Trump keep making such poor decisions and continue to lose all the negotiations, trade wars and legislative battles he starts?

If only we could compare their transcripts and records of accomplishment

Lets start with their college transcript.

 

[Sapidus]

Bowing is not done by Americans to other nations' royalty. You clearly don't understand why. Done by the President - the chief diplomat representing the country - it is wrong to the nth degree.

You don't get that, I understand. That's ok, you seem young and stupid, so I'm sure you'll learn that eventually.

We can agree that a person needs to earn respect as a person. However, an office deserves respect as well. The office of President of the United States deserves respect, and thus the holder of that office deserves respect for holding it.

You can agree or be wrong, it's your choice. I'm done with you on this subject.

Because showing respect is wrong? So should we be offended if the Japanese president refuses to shake hands?

Whenever you are shown the stupidity of your argument you are "done with the subject since you can no longer defend your position"

Classic This _person

 

[This_person]

Because showing respect is wrong? So should we be offended if the Japanese president refuses to shake hands?

Whenever you are shown the stupidity of your argument you are "done with the subject since you can no longer defend your position"

Classic This _person

Ok, so I won't be done, to keep you going (and keep making clicks for somd.com).

No, showing respect is not wrong. Bowing is wrong for an American to do to a sovereign. Bowing to a sovereign represents subservience, that the person doing the bowing is subservient to the person receiving the bow. It is why people bow to royalty - you are saying the royal is "above" you.

Again, note that Obama did not bow to the queen of England. If it was about respect, in general - if it was about cultural norms of the host country, he would have done it there.

He didn't. He didn't because it wasn't. At least, that's the way it will be perceived by the bulk of the world. He was either suggesting the United States (whom he represents in such a situation) is subservient to the host sovereign, or that he is too ill-informed of his role as to represent his country properly. There's really no other option.

But, this is a gross distraction. You think that the office of President of the United States should only be respected if you LIKE the person in the office. This is problematic in that it implies a disrespect for the nation, for the rule of law, unless you agree with the law, with the person.

You don't get to have that one. You can't defend that position, because it is indefensible.

 

[Sapidus]

Ok, so I won't be done, to keep you going (and keep making clicks for somd.com).

No, showing respect is not wrong. Bowing is wrong for an American to do to a sovereign. Bowing to a sovereign represents subservience, that the person doing the bowing is subservient to the person receiving the bow. It is why people bow to royalty - you are saying the royal is "above" you.

Again, note that Obama did not bow to the queen of England. If it was about respect, in general - if it was about cultural norms of the host country, he would have done it there.

He didn't. He didn't because it wasn't. At least, that's the way it will be perceived by the bulk of the world. He was either suggesting the United States (whom he represents in such a situation) is subservient to the host sovereign, or that he is too ill-informed of his role as to represent his country properly. There's really no other option.

But, this is a gross distraction. You think that the office of President of the United States should only be respected if you LIKE the person in the office. This is problematic in that it implies a disrespect for the nation, for the rule of law, unless you agree with the law, with the person.

You don't get to have that one. You can't defend that position, because it is indefensible.

That is where you are confused. In England that is how bowing is perceived. However in Japan bowing is done by both . . The queen doesnt bow because she is indeed the ultimate ruler. In Japan it is just like handshake.

Bowing in Japan however is merely a greeting.

If only you would get this bent out of shape about the hundreds of idiotic things Trump has done. I'm surprised you haven't brought up Obamas tan suit, his feet on the desk or Michelles arms.

Its pathetic these are the things you find outrageous about Obama yet you dimmiss infinitely worse behavior by Trump.


Lastly it has nothing do with whether i like the person who is president. It is whether they have demonstrated themselves to be a person to respect and admire.

Trump has done neither

 

[CPUSA]

Trump wanted to grab women by the pussy too. There is no excuse for a lot of what Trump says and does.

I would trust Obama to have the best interest of the american people at heart when he negotiated with anyone. I would believe Trump has no allegiance to anyone other than himself and trying to enrich himself. Therefore I would not judge them the same way despite their both having the same role.

 

[CPUSA]

That is where you are confused. In England that is how bowing is perceived. However in Japan bowing is done by both . . The queen doesnt bow because she is indeed the ultimate ruler. In Japan it is just like handshake.

Bowing in Japan however is merely a greeting.

If only you would get this bent out of shape about the hundreds of idiotic things Trump has done. I'm surprised you haven't brought up Obamas tan suit, his feet on the desk or Michelles arms.

Its pathetic these are the things you find outrageous about Obama yet you dimmiss infinitely worse behavior by Trump.


Lastly it has nothing do with whether i like the person who is president. It is whether they have demonstrated themselves to be a person to respect and admire.

Trump has done neither

 

[CPUSA]

You mean bowing like Trump saluting a North Korean official? Or kissing Putins ass?

It has been clearly established you are racist and could never respect a Black man as president. Trump has done far worse than bowing ( which is a normal culture nicety )

I wouldn't trust Trump to clean a cat litter box. The title of President has been sullied by him and won't be restored till someone with a modicum of decency is elected.

The title "president" in and of it self doesnt demand respect this isn't a dictatorship no matter what Trump tells you

 

[This_person]

That is where you are confused. In England that is how bowing is perceived. However in Japan bowing is done by both . . The queen doesnt bow because she is indeed the ultimate ruler. In Japan it is just like handshake.

Bowing in Japan however is merely a greeting.

He does not represent Japan, he represents the United States. We do not bow to foreign leaders.

If only you would get this bent out of shape about the hundreds of idiotic things Trump has done. I'm surprised you haven't brought up Obamas tan suit, his feet on the desk or Michelles arms.

I'm not an idiot like you, I do not bring up such stupid things.

Lastly it has nothing do with whether i like the person who is president. It is whether they have demonstrated themselves to be a person to respect and admire.

Trump has done neither

Trump was duly elected by the people of the United States via the known process, legally and properly, as President of the United States. Everything else is opinion.

 

[Sapidus]

He does not represent Japan, he represents the United States. We do not bow to foreign leaders.
Why don't you complain about the way Trump kowtows to Putin? When Obama put him in his place? Why don't you combine about the way Trump salutes North Korean military and compliments the north korean leader?

I'm not an idiot like you, I do not bring up such stupid things.

You brought up Obama showing a sign of respect which is trivial compared with the actual behavior of Trump

Trump was duly elected by the people of the United States via the known process, legally and properly, as President of the United States. Everything else is opinion.

When did i say differently? Why are you arguing with yourself?

 

[This_person]

Why don't you complain about the way Trump kowtows to Putin? When Obama put him in his place?

Mostly because neither of those things happened. Sap, the 1980's called and want their foreign policy back!

Why don't you combine about the way Trump salutes North Korean military and compliments the north korean leader?

I don't think he was right to salute a military member of North Korea.

I have no more issue with how he is acting to negotiate with a nuclear power to limit their threat than I did with Obama kowtowing to Castro. It's time to try something different since the last several president accomplished either nothing, or made things worse (Clinton giving NK nuclear power capabilities and Obama agreeing to Iran getting nuclear capabilities as examples).

I respect the office, and so I don't argue about their methods unless their methods prove bad for the nation. Then, I complain about the methods and not the office-holder.

You should try it.

You brought up Obama showing a sign of respect which is trivial compared with the actual behavior of Trump

Bowing to a foreign royalty is not a sign of respect, it is a sign of subservience. It's why no other leader of the United States, ever, has done it.

When did i say differently?

When you said the office deserves no respect, only the office-holder.

 

[CPUSA]

god you are dumb. You blather on about how we need not show respect to the role of Queen and then go on and say that the role of president demands respect.

Bowing is done by both parties in most transactions in japan and is not considered subservient it is consider a greeting and sign of respect.

Learn something.


A person no matter what their title needs to earn respect and Trump has done little to earn it. In fact every day he degrades and tarnishes it a little more.

 

[GURPS]

Where is the outrage that Trump invited the Taliban to meet at Camp David

Cluelessly Myopic as usual

 

[GURPS]

HAHAH To assume anyone thinks Trump is as good an orator, negotiator , leader or anywhere nearly as intelligent as Obama is laughable.

Obama was good at reading off of a Teleprompter