Parents Need to do Their Part So Teachers Can Do

NurseSherri

New Member
I completely agree that parents have to be part of their children's education at home. However, an experience this week with my kiddo's teacher kind of left a bad taste in my mouth... she came home with a math paper that she had all 5 problems wrong. I could tell by her eraser marks and holes in it that she was just downright frustrated. There was actual algebra on this work. I emailed the teacher so I could do the best I could in helping my daughter at home, because I am worried that I will teach her math in a different way than she is learning at school and I don't want to confuse her. I asked several questions, one of which was "do 7 and 8 year olds have the ability to understand such abstract concepts such as algebra?" and "how should we approach this question?"... I got a very weak response from the teacher saying she was sending home the "core curriculum" guidelines and that she could set up a conference with me if I wished. I felt like she just blew off my questions or was too busy to address my concerns.

Ok, I have to retract this... the stuff that the teacher sent home had a lot of personalized notes to me that addressed a lot of my concerns. SO, I am very excited about that! Yay for Leonardtown Elementary!
 

royhobie

hobieflyer
I completely agree that parents have to be part of their children's education at home. However, an experience this week with my kiddo's teacher kind of left a bad taste in my mouth... she came home with a math paper that she had all 5 problems wrong. I could tell by her eraser marks and holes in it that she was just downright frustrated. There was actual algebra on this work. I emailed the teacher so I could do the best I could in helping my daughter at home, because I am worried that I will teach her math in a different way than she is learning at school and I don't want to confuse her. I asked several questions, one of which was "do 7 and 8 year olds have the ability to understand such abstract concepts such as algebra?" and "how should we approach this question?"... I got a very weak response from the teacher saying she was sending home the "core curriculum" guidelines and that she could set up a conference with me if I wished. I felt like she just blew off my questions or was too busy to address my concerns.

Teachers don't like the core curriculum. They are forced in to it. It sounds like she is sending you the "guidelines" to show you what she is forced to do. She probably agrees that 7 and 8 year old shouldn't be working on such abstract concepts. I know I don't. And I taught calculus in High School. There is also more than one way to learn calculus!
 

twinoaks207

Having Fun!
I completely agree that parents have to be part of their children's education at home. However, an experience this week with my kiddo's teacher kind of left a bad taste in my mouth... she came home with a math paper that she had all 5 problems wrong. I could tell by her eraser marks and holes in it that she was just downright frustrated. There was actual algebra on this work. I emailed the teacher so I could do the best I could in helping my daughter at home, because I am worried that I will teach her math in a different way than she is learning at school and I don't want to confuse her. I asked several questions, one of which was "do 7 and 8 year olds have the ability to understand such abstract concepts such as algebra?" and "how should we approach this question?"... I got a very weak response from the teacher saying she was sending home the "core curriculum" guidelines and that she could set up a conference with me if I wished. I felt like she just blew off my questions or was too busy to address my concerns.

Welcome to math the "Common Core" way.
Ok, I have to retract this... the stuff that the teacher sent home had a lot of personalized notes to me that addressed a lot of my concerns. SO, I am very excited about that! Yay for Leonardtown Elementary!

Glad that you got this response. Stay on top of it and keep making that contact with the teacher -- it makes all the difference in the world!
 

coolnuke

Member
i couldnt agree more. i am still cleaning egg off the car because some student decided it was easier to egg the car then study. why my wife is a teacher i will never know.
 

GW8345

Not White House Approved
You know, don't blame the teachers, blame the school board administration and the idiots who voted them into office.

Ultimately, it is us who is to blame for we have let elected officials have too much power over our schools, we need to take that power away from them and put it back into the hands of the teachers.
 

FollowTheMoney

New Member
The best solution is ....

Home school your children!
Why do you people place your trust in complete strangers? Why do you place your own flesh and blood in the hands
of an unaccountable school system? Common-core, old way, new way, different way, my way, their way, his way,
her way. Did you know that since the beginning of time 2+2 has always equaled 4? That forever an adjective modifies
a noun or a pronoun? That in science, a hypothesis is a tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or
scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation? The subjects, and contents of those and other subjects
haven't changed. Yet you continue to allow the state to tell you that it knows what is better for your own child?
WHY?
What is happening to your children is what is called state indoctrination. They are being taught just enough to be
productive workers, but not smart enough to critically think, or ask questions of the state. To be sheep, just like
you turned out to be.
If you are honest with yourself, take a step back, and really look at what is going on, you will realize the true scope
of what is happening. Look back to the past education system. Discipline, real and enforced dress codes, when a
child failed a test they weren't given a passing grade. Why has it gone downhill? Because our government, at ALL
levels, have encroached so far into our lives, they needed a way to control the population. If you own the
"education" system, you control the population!
If you truly look deep into yourself, you know that this is all true. It angers you, makes you fearful because you can't
wrap it around your heard that something like this is actually allowed to happen. That you can't do something about it.
That you don't know what you can do about it.

Well, the first thing you can do to cripple the system is to pull your children out of the state run public schools and HOME SCHOOL.
And don't you worry about those money grubby union represented "educators" and administrators, they'll be just fine.
By the way, hasn't OSHA ensured that enough regulations about workplace safety have been enacted over the decades?
So what is that "public educator" union all about anyway? It is not about the best way to teach your children. They are not
fighting for discipline in the classrooms. They aren't sending out press releases on their support for anti-bullying policy
changes. No. Just look at the local papers this past week and on The Bay Net website. What are they looking for? More money!
By the way, a large part of the student population decreasing, is more and more parents pulling their children out and home schooling.
But you won't hear that from the propaganda machine of the state run school system.

If you really love and care for the well being of your children, as you say, then you will sacrifice the time needed to
ensure that they are properly taught, without the indoctrination and BS of a public school setting.
Instead, they will be in a loving, stress free environment. With plenty of support from the local home school network
of families. Social activities they only dreamed about having, with plenty of time to do them.
You, Mom and Dad, will not be alone. There is plenty of help and support.
You will discover your children all over again, and be apart of their personal and intellectual development. Knowing that,
is the most gratifying experience any parent can hope to achieve.

Think about it. Research it.
 

glitch

Devil's Advocate
Home school your children!
Why do you people place your trust in complete strangers? Why do you place your own flesh and blood in the hands
of an unaccountable school system? Common-core, old way, new way, different way, my way, their way, his way,
her way. Did you know that since the beginning of time 2+2 has always equaled 4? That forever an adjective modifies
a noun or a pronoun? That in science, a hypothesis is a tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or
scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation? The subjects, and contents of those and other subjects
haven't changed. Yet you continue to allow the state to tell you that it knows what is better for your own child?
WHY?
What is happening to your children is what is called state indoctrination. They are being taught just enough to be
productive workers, but not smart enough to critically think, or ask questions of the state. To be sheep, just like
you turned out to be.
If you are honest with yourself, take a step back, and really look at what is going on, you will realize the true scope
of what is happening. Look back to the past education system. Discipline, real and enforced dress codes, when a
child failed a test they weren't given a passing grade. Why has it gone downhill? Because our government, at ALL
levels, have encroached so far into our lives, they needed a way to control the population. If you own the
"education" system, you control the population!
If you truly look deep into yourself, you know that this is all true. It angers you, makes you fearful because you can't
wrap it around your heard that something like this is actually allowed to happen. That you can't do something about it.
That you don't know what you can do about it.

Well, the first thing you can do to cripple the system is to pull your children out of the state run public schools and HOME SCHOOL.
And don't you worry about those money grubby union represented "educators" and administrators, they'll be just fine.
By the way, hasn't OSHA ensured that enough regulations about workplace safety have been enacted over the decades?
So what is that "public educator" union all about anyway? It is not about the best way to teach your children. They are not
fighting for discipline in the classrooms. They aren't sending out press releases on their support for anti-bullying policy
changes. No. Just look at the local papers this past week and on The Bay Net website. What are they looking for? More money!
By the way, a large part of the student population decreasing, is more and more parents pulling their children out and home schooling.
But you won't hear that from the propaganda machine of the state run school system.

If you really love and care for the well being of your children, as you say, then you will sacrifice the time needed to
ensure that they are properly taught, without the indoctrination and BS of a public school setting.
Instead, they will be in a loving, stress free environment. With plenty of support from the local home school network
of families. Social activities they only dreamed about having, with plenty of time to do them.
You, Mom and Dad, will not be alone. There is plenty of help and support.
You will discover your children all over again, and be apart of their personal and intellectual development. Knowing that,
is the most gratifying experience any parent can hope to achieve.

Think about it. Research it.

Asking for a COLA is money grubbing? Man, I never knew there were so many money grubbing people out there.
 

xobxdoc

Active Member
I too am confused about the way they are teaching math now. My son's (also 7) teacher gave me a paper during conferences to help us understand what the hell they are doing. I asked her if I could also show him the ways in which we solved problems, and she said that would be great too. The key is for them to have different ways to solve problems and foster critical thinking

The teachers are frustrated by the core stuff too. Make the appointment

If I can find that paper, I will scan it later and post it
I was volunteering in a second grade class in Calvert County a few years ago. I was helping this student with subtraction. I said you had to "borrow" from the tens place like I always did. The teacher immediately stopped me and said, "Mr. xobxdoc, we are not allowed to say borrow. Saying borrow implies giving back. We have to say redistribute". These kids were so confused because they did not understand the concept of redistribute and trying to understand factors of 10 to do simple subtraction. They couldn't even perform single digit subtraction or addition without using their fingers.
 

bilbur

New Member
The biggest problem is the world has become too politically correct. How much longer before teachers are not allowed to go on to the next topic until all of the kids understand the previous topic and they are not allowed to have AP courses because it makes other students feel left out. The harsh reality is there are stupid kids in the world, there are kids that don't care, and there are (unfortunately) parents that don't care. Teachers need to be able to say in a nice way "this kid is stupid and needs to find another class".
 

Flutterby

New Member
I guess this would be a good time for me to chime in... As a special educator and someone who has taught a behavior program for several years, it can get very frustrating to see the lack of progress and lack of support. At times, I felt as if I was not allowed to truly teach in a way that was meaningful and effective. As a result, I have moved on to opening a private business in which I can teach the way that children can actually learn.

On the behavior side of things, I feel that some parents are not informed as to how to deal with behaviors and some parents just make the choice to avoid dealing with the behaviors. I'm excited to share that part of my business is providing parent workshops specifically for working on things like this. Hopefully we can just get the word out and start making some changes.

Happy to see so many people on here wanting to support our teachers, it is certainly not the easiest of jobs out there!
 

DQ2B

Active Member
Home school your children!
Why do you people place your trust in complete strangers? Why do you place your own flesh and blood in the hands
of an unaccountable school system? Common-core, old way, new way, different way, my way, their way, his way,
her way. Did you know that since the beginning of time 2+2 has always equaled 4? That forever an adjective modifies
a noun or a pronoun? That in science, a hypothesis is a tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or
scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation? The subjects, and contents of those and other subjects
haven't changed. Yet you continue to allow the state to tell you that it knows what is better for your own child?
WHY?
What is happening to your children is what is called state indoctrination. They are being taught just enough to be
productive workers, but not smart enough to critically think, or ask questions of the state. To be sheep, just like
you turned out to be.
If you are honest with yourself, take a step back, and really look at what is going on, you will realize the true scope
of what is happening. Look back to the past education system. Discipline, real and enforced dress codes, when a
child failed a test they weren't given a passing grade. Why has it gone downhill? Because our government, at ALL
levels, have encroached so far into our lives, they needed a way to control the population. If you own the
"education" system, you control the population!
If you truly look deep into yourself, you know that this is all true. It angers you, makes you fearful because you can't
wrap it around your heard that something like this is actually allowed to happen. That you can't do something about it.
That you don't know what you can do about it.

Well, the first thing you can do to cripple the system is to pull your children out of the state run public schools and HOME SCHOOL.
And don't you worry about those money grubby union represented "educators" and administrators, they'll be just fine.
By the way, hasn't OSHA ensured that enough regulations about workplace safety have been enacted over the decades?
So what is that "public educator" union all about anyway? It is not about the best way to teach your children. They are not
fighting for discipline in the classrooms. They aren't sending out press releases on their support for anti-bullying policy
changes. No. Just look at the local papers this past week and on The Bay Net website. What are they looking for? More money!
By the way, a large part of the student population decreasing, is more and more parents pulling their children out and home schooling.
But you won't hear that from the propaganda machine of the state run school system.

If you really love and care for the well being of your children, as you say, then you will sacrifice the time needed to
ensure that they are properly taught, without the indoctrination and BS of a public school setting.
Instead, they will be in a loving, stress free environment. With plenty of support from the local home school network
of families. Social activities they only dreamed about having, with plenty of time to do them.
You, Mom and Dad, will not be alone. There is plenty of help and support.
You will discover your children all over again, and be apart of their personal and intellectual development. Knowing that,
is the most gratifying experience any parent can hope to achieve.

Think about it. Research it.

Most families have both parents working outside the home so I don't see where Home Schooling is even an option.
 

Disco Stu

Shut Up Little Man!!!!
Here's how we address the behavioral problems currently infesting our schools.

1. Parents, get involved with the PTA. My child just went from an elementary school were the PTA had a 60-70% participation rate to a middle school that has 0% participation rate because the PTA board is clueless. Be careful who you elect to the PTA Board, I've seen several board members who simply don't want to do the work and just wanted to use the position as a social status thing or to be popular.

2. Bring back corporal punishment in the school. If parents don't want the school to discipline their little angels, then they can come to the school and explain to the school administration why they can't teach their child(ern) how to behave in public.

3. Bring back suspensions and expulsions, no in school crap, kick their little arse out of school and make the parents deal with having to deal with their little heathens when they are suspended/expelled and stop using the school as a free day care. Oh, and they don't get to make up the missed work either, when they do come back to school, they better study like crazy to catch up or risk flunking the class. They made their bed, make them lie in it.

4. Tell the parents, if they don't like it, they can home school their precious little angels. If their little heathens can't behave themselves at school how then hell are they going to be able to interact in society and at a job. This will remove the discipline problems in our schools and force the parent to deal with the problem they created.

When I was a leader in the Navy I always noticed that it was 10% of my people that took up 90% of my time, whether it was due to disciplinary issues, having to solve their family/life issues or just mentoring them to ensure they became a productive Sailor by teaching them things that mommy and daddy should have done when they were still in elementary school.

Whiny parents of the 70's and 80's are results we see today, they whined that someone else was disciplining their little angels instead of them. The problem was, is that those parents wanted to be their kids best friend and not be a parent so they didn't discipline their kids because they didn't want to be the bad guy.

I have told my kids teachers, if they get out of line, feel free to discipline them and then let me know and I will discipline them when they get home. I've told my kids that I will not tolerate them misbehaving in school or out in public, if they want to act like a little brat, they are free to do it in the privacy of their own bed room. I've also told my kids that I am their parent, not their best friend.....and that I have not problem being the bad guy when it's the right thing to do.

We have allowed those who don't want the responsibility of being a parent to make the school system to take on that responsibility. We need to put that responsibility back onto the parents, they don't want the responsibility, then don't have kids.


It all goes back to that generation of DAMN FORMER HIPPIES!!! They idolized Timothy Leary and wax nostalgic for Woodstock so.... this is what you get!

shutup:
 
WTH? This must be a joke... :lol:

Under Common Core, parents are likely to see some unfamiliar terms on their children's elementary-school math homework. Here are some examples drawn from New York state's math curriculum:

— Grade 2 addition:

Solve using your place value chart and number disks, composing a 10 when necessary: 53 + 19

— Grade 2 subtraction:

Craig checked out 28 books at the library. He read and returned some books. He still has 19 books checked out. How many books did Craig return? Draw a tape diagram or number bond to solve.

— Grade 4 multiplication:

Represent the following expressions with disks, regrouping as necessary, writing a matching expression, and recording the partial products vertically: 3 x 24

— Grade 4 word problem:

Cindy says she found a shortcut for doing multiplication problems. When she multiplies 3 × 24, she says, "3 × 4 is 12 ones, or 1 ten and 2 ones. Then there's just 2 tens left in 24, so add it up and you get 3 tens and 2 ones." Do you think Cindy's shortcut works? Explain your thinking in words and justify your response using a model or partial products.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/1...es-from-new-common-core-math/?intcmp=obinsite
 

lucky_bee

RBF expert
WTH? This must be a joke... :lol:

Under Common Core, parents are likely to see some unfamiliar terms on their children's elementary-school math homework. Here are some examples drawn from New York state's math curriculum:

— Grade 2 addition:

Solve using your place value chart and number disks, composing a 10 when necessary: 53 + 19

— Grade 2 subtraction:

Craig checked out 28 books at the library. He read and returned some books. He still has 19 books checked out. How many books did Craig return? Draw a tape diagram or number bond to solve.

— Grade 4 multiplication:

Represent the following expressions with disks, regrouping as necessary, writing a matching expression, and recording the partial products vertically: 3 x 24

— Grade 4 word problem:

Cindy says she found a shortcut for doing multiplication problems. When she multiplies 3 × 24, she says, "3 × 4 is 12 ones, or 1 ten and 2 ones. Then there's just 2 tens left in 24, so add it up and you get 3 tens and 2 ones." Do you think Cindy's shortcut works? Explain your thinking in words and justify your response using a model or partial products.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/1...es-from-new-common-core-math/?intcmp=obinsite

This chit seriously makes me sick to my stomach. I have THE worst time with math and I most certainly would've never grasped this all in grade school. I can't even get it now. I could barely put answers on the paper and then they'd expect me to explain HOW?! :faint: Would counting on my fingers count for an answer? :ohwell:
 

Lurk

Happy Creepy Ass Cracka
WTH? This must be a joke... :lol:

Under Common Core, parents are likely to see some unfamiliar terms on their children's elementary-school math homework. Here are some examples drawn from New York state's math curriculum:

— Grade 2 addition:

Solve using your place value chart and number disks, composing a 10 when necessary: 53 + 19 Husker translation: "Carry the 1"

— Grade 2 subtraction:

Craig checked out 28 books at the library. He read and returned some books. He still has 19 books checked out. How many books did Craig return? Draw a tape diagram or number bond to solve. Husker translation: "Ask the jock tutor which books he read for me"

— Grade 4 multiplication:

Represent the following expressions with disks, regrouping as necessary, writing a matching expression, and recording the partial products vertically: 3 x 24 Husker translation: "What time is practice?"

— Grade 4 word problem:

Cindy says she found a shortcut for doing multiplication problems. When she multiplies 3 × 24, she says, "3 × 4 is 12 ones, or 1 ten and 2 ones. Then there's just 2 tens left in 24, so add it up and you get 3 tens and 2 ones." Do you think Cindy's shortcut works? Explain your thinking in words and justify your response using a model or partial products. Husker translation: "Carry the one but don't forget the 3 x 2 part of the question."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/1...es-from-new-common-core-math/?intcmp=obinsite

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sexy_pants

New Member
This is on point!! Was just saying this today...makes me sad! :(

Parents need to do their job so teachers can do their's. Being a parent isn’t easy. I know firsthand. When I made the decision to have children, I knew it would be my responsibility to make sure they become productive members of society. Part of that responsibility is making sure they realize how important their education is to their future. Unfortunately, not all parents share my thoughts on this.

Here are some of the harsh realities that educators face on a daily basis:

1. Half of the students who enter the classroom are shamefully disrespectful.
2. Half or more of the students don't care about their education. (Which ultimately causes those who do care to be "left behind".)
3. Half or more of the students' parents have not instilled in their children the value of education and/or the importance of respecting adults (including themselves). If more parents and students considered education to be a privilege rather than a right, I truly believe things would be different.
4. Teachers have to spend too much time dealing with the above-mentioned students because the administration is too worried about their school's "numbers" (suspension, expulsion, etc.) being too high. Each principal has to keep their school's "numbers" low so the Superintendent doesn't come down on them. The Superintendent has to keep his school district's "numbers" low so the State doesn't come down on him and so on.
5. Too many parents are not involved in their child's education. The school system provides a day each year for parents to come in to discuss their child's progress or lack thereof. Unfortunately, very few parents bother to come. The ones who do show up are usually the parents of students who are doing well. Is this a coincidence? I think not.

Here's the bottom line: If parents were doing their jobs at home with their children, I assure you, things would be a lot different. I am a strong advocate for parents being required to spend time in their child's school. If they did, they would see exactly how hard teachers work and how much they have to deal with while trying to teach disrespectful, apathetic students. The students know all too well that there are little to no consequences for their misbehavior, so it continues on a daily basis.

My heart goes out to those students who value their education, but are deprived of it because of those who don't! Talk about children being left behind? The only ones who are truly left behind are those who want to learn. The ramifications of this are scary when one considers the fact that one day, we will depend on these students to take care of us. Parents, it is time we ALL step up to the plate and do right by our children.
 
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