Pelosi: Declare Debt Ceiling Unconstitutional

Odessa78

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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., thinks that President Obama should unilaterally eliminate the debt ceiling, rather than negotiate with Congress to spend more money when the United States hits the debt ceiling later this year.

“I would like to see the Constitution used to protect the country’s full faith and credit, as the Constitution does,” Pelosi told reporters Wednesday. She was endorsing the idea that Obama should use the 14th Amendment — which states that “The validity of the public debt of the United States . . . shall not be questioned” — to circumvent House Republicans who want spending cuts in exchange for another debt ceiling hike.



Pelosi: Obama should unilaterally eliminate the debt ceiling | WashingtonExaminer.com
 
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Rommey

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Fine...declare it unconstitutional and don't write any checks.
Maybe if they would actually pass a budget, then they could figure out how to not need to exceed the cap.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Pelosi should be impeached for not defending and upholding the Constitution. She is violating her oath of office. Yes, any federal government official can be impeached.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Its like she has no clue where the money has to come from in order to pay the debt that she wants to expand.

and the whole time, the liberals write more laws and tax code that causes more business to leave the country..
The liberals are idiots, and she is the queen
 

daileyck1

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Its like she has no clue where the money has to come from in order to pay the debt that she wants to expand.

and the whole time, the liberals write more laws and tax code that causes more business to leave the country..
The liberals are idiots, and she is the queen

You have NO FU##ING clue. Go read a book and learn something.
 

Vince

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Pelosi should be impeached for not defending and upholding the Constitution. She is violating her oath of office. Yes, any federal government official can be impeached.
Her and the other idiot in the White House. How many times has obamy thrown the Constitution out and did whatever he pleased?
 

Namikazenaru

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We as a country (not just certain individuals) need to take on this burden. First off, the spending needs to be curtailed. If the country is not doing well, those who leech shouldn't do well (mainly talking welfare). Tax code, simplify it. Have a tax table with amount of money made and the percentage owed (everyone pays their fair share) and then have children on there and let's limit the tax break to 2-3 children. Those in poverty and needing welfare shouldn't be rewarded for having more children than that. (this being said about collecting welfare and advantages for having children you can't afford to take care of).
 

Aerogal

USMC 1983-1995
another gem out of nancy's mouth.......I wish san francisco would take their village idiot back (sigh)
 

bcp

In My Opinion
We as a country (not just certain individuals) need to take on this burden. First off, the spending needs to be curtailed. If the country is not doing well, those who leech shouldn't do well (mainly talking welfare). Tax code, simplify it. Have a tax table with amount of money made and the percentage owed (everyone pays their fair share) and then have children on there and let's limit the tax break to 2-3 children. Those in poverty and needing welfare shouldn't be rewarded for having more children than that. (this being said about collecting welfare and advantages for having children you can't afford to take care of).

I sort of agree.
tax code should be the same % if you make 30k a year or if you make 1 mil a year.
no deductions
no deductions for children, you have them? you pay for them. pretty simple.
Welfare should be limited to 2 years only except in cases where the person is really unable to work. and fat is not a reason, or is stupid. Fat stupid people can push a broom.

then, the government should be able to look at yearly payroll numbers for the U.S, and base their spending on that without being able to exceed the expected amount that will come in.

I.R.S could be totally disolved saving the country billions every year, welfare would be cut by at least 75%
 

nutz

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I sort of agree.
tax code should be the same % if you make 30k a year or if you make 1 mil a year.
no deductions
no deductions for children, you have them? you pay for them. pretty simple.
Welfare should be limited to 2 years only except in cases where the person is really unable to work. and fat is not a reason, or is stupid. Fat stupid people can push a broom.

then, the government should be able to look at yearly payroll numbers for the U.S, and base their spending on that without being able to exceed the expected amount that will come in.

I.R.S could be totally disolved saving the country billions every year, welfare would be cut by at least 75%

:) Do you realize the number of lawyers, lobbyists, tax accountants and staff that would lose their way of life? Plus the IRS weenies.....I don't know, but It would have to be a large number. That's one reason why I don't think we'll ever see a flat tax..


Nancy (like most politicians and senior gov't people) only thinks about Nancy. Wasn't oh so long ago she was whining because the USAF needed to supply a larger plane for her and her staff to travel between coasts on a moments notice!
 

daileyck1

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We as a country (not just certain individuals) need to take on this burden. First off, the spending needs to be curtailed. If the country is not doing well, those who leech shouldn't do well (mainly talking welfare). Tax code, simplify it. Have a tax table with amount of money made and the percentage owed (everyone pays their fair share) and then have children on there and let's limit the tax break to 2-3 children. Those in poverty and needing welfare shouldn't be rewarded for having more children than that. (this being said about collecting welfare and advantages for having children you can't afford to take care of).

Cut the military budget in half. We have more officers O-5 and above than we did during WW2. That we be the place to start if you are serious about the budget. We spend more on defense than the next 26 countries COMBINED and 25 of them are allies.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
I'm still caught on the absurd rationale that it is unconstitutional. I realize a lot of things go on in Washington that aren't specifically laid out in the Constitution, but they're at least covered by the clauses that say they can execute their powers in a manner agreed upon.

I can't find anything that makes it "UN" constitutional.

I'm thinking this woman has absolutely no idea what it means.
 
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EmptyTimCup

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Cut the military budget in half. We have more officers O-5 and above than we did during WW2. That we be the place to start if you are serious about the budget. We spend more on defense than the next 26 countries COMBINED and 25 of them are allies.



what you expect the Blue Helmets of the UN to defend you ? what exactly would you CUT ?

cut entitlement spending ............


3.8 trillion dollars in 2011


Over Seas Contingency Ops 4.3 %

Defense 549 Billion [discretionary spending] or 14.1 %

Interest on the debt 207 Billion Dollars or 5.4 %


or all totaled 34.8 % of last yrs budgets to run the various dept's ....

Entitlement Spending:

SSI 742 Billion or 19.4 %
Medicare 488 Billion or 12.8 %
Medicade 276 Billion or 7.2 %
Other Manditory Spending 21.5 %

65.2 % of the budget was give away ........

you cannot keep taking away from working people ... maybe you 'd like to give up that fat UNION Pension to help some poor inner city slob, raise a 5th generation on welfare .....


take it all everything for a yr,




what do you do the next yr ?
 

Namikazenaru

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Cut the military budget in half. We have more officers O-5 and above than we did during WW2. That we be the place to start if you are serious about the budget. We spend more on defense than the next 26 countries COMBINED and 25 of them are allies.

Its going to be a compromise whatever it is, defense spending is already going to take a hit from automatic cuts. We need to control entitlement programs and welfare. For peopel who ride the government, whent he economy is good times are good. The times shouldn't stay good for them while the rest of the country suffers.
 
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