Pennsylvania State Police urge gun owners to give up firearms to get medical marijuana

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
If I may ...

Ok. Just to clear this up. Heroin, synthesized from morphine, is illegal. Morphine and opium, both derived from the seedpod of the poppy plant, which derive codeine, hydrocodone (Vicodin), oxycodone, oxymorphone, hydromorphone, all from one plant are legal as long as you have a prescription. All these are true opioids on the list of controlled substances. Illegal on their own without prescription. Still ok to buy and own a firearm as long as you are "prescribed". Yet, cannabis, that of which is now being "legally prescribed", which has been proven, absent of course the blessing of US gov't and official US gov't sanctioned medical reports and testing [sarcasm], as safe after hundreds of years of use, will prevent you from buying or owning a firearm? Okey dokey.
It's not technically being prescribed, just medically allowed.
 

black dog

Free America
Two different groups at play here with two different agendas. The people who voted for legalizing marijuana were the populace of the state. The ones wanting to take away the guns are the state police. I'm sure if the police could find a way of adding "are you an alcoholic" to the list of disqualifiers they would.

Being a alcoholic is covered by the same question as weed on the 4473 form,
Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or
decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

Alcohol is a schedule 1 regulated drug.
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
Being a alcoholic is covered by the same question as weed on the 4473 form,
Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or
decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

Alcohol is a schedule 1 regulated drug.
But with the marijuana you've sent a signed statement attributing this fact, not so much with the Jesus juice.
 

black dog

Free America
But with the marijuana you've sent a signed statement attributing this fact, not so much with the Jesus juice.

It's still a yes / no question, just like it always has been.. Does a alcoholic lie or tell the truth on the form?
If one lies on a 4473 they could end up being one of the 15 to 20 that get charged each year by the Feds.. lol... But I'm gonna guess that those numbers are shortly going to rapidly climb also.
This is going to get interesting....
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member

Sessions' opposition to legal marijuana is well known and was pointed out before he was even sworn in.

This reverses the 2013 DoJ memo telling states they had to exercise restraint in prosecuting marijuana businesses in states that passed legal marijuana laws; effectively letting states choose how they want to pursue marijuana cases. The 2013 DoJ memo told attorneys they are welcome to prosecute growers and distributors in "legal" states as long as they can point to federal interests. Given the "Cole" memo's laundry list of goals the federal govt. has in this drug war, expressing federal interest wouldn't have been hard. Sessions simply implied that identifying those interests wasn't used agressively enough.

https://judiciary.house.gov/hearing/oversight-department-justice-2017/

https://www.drugcaucus.senate.gov/c...ng-public-impact-state-recreational-marijuana

So, Sessions could have simply changed the memo's underlying goals while not rescinding it altogether (but it came out during Obama's term, so it's got to go). In essense, though, getting rid of the memo hasn't changed anything other than getting rid of the guidance that was implied in the Cole memo. Sessions isn't clear in what he wants to see here, but if he intends to start a crackdown, it's likely to anger voters. A majority of Americans want it legal, including republicans who believe it should be up to individual states. Even Sessions' boss (Trump) says it should be up to states to legalize recreational and medical marijuana.

However, Justice Department officials who briefed reporters on the announcement declined to say whether the new policy was intended to increase federal prosecutions for marijuana-related crimes.

“I can’t sit here and say whether it will or will not lead to more marijuana prosecutions,” said a senior DOJ official who spoke on condition of anonymity. “We believe U.S. attorneys’ offices should be opened up to bring all of the cases that they believe are necessary to be brought.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2018...rijuana-policy-us-attorney-enforcement-324020

“Today the Attorney General rescinded the Cole Memo on marijuana prosecutions, and directed that federal marijuana prosecution decisions be governed by the same principles that have long governed all of our prosecution decisions. The United States Attorney’s Office in Colorado has already been guided by these principles in marijuana prosecutions -- focusing in particular on identifying and prosecuting those who create the greatest safety threats to our communities around the state. We will, consistent with the Attorney General’s latest guidance, continue to take this approach in all of our work with our law enforcement partners throughout Colorado.”

U.S. Attorney Bob Troyer, District of Colorado
https://www.justice.gov/usao-co/pr/...ent-regarding-marijuana-prosecutions-colorado

In reality, SCOTUS shares some blame in all this as well.
 
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