Perhaps the Truth about Saddam's WMD

[JPC sr]

The big pic.

First, I am not "pretending" to be better than a parent who abandons his children and makes a public spectacle of himself by not paying child support and breaking the law in the name of "civil disobedience". I am better than that parent.

And I say - not.

I can not see why you can not accept your own position as a fortunate and blessed man, instead of that pompous pretence of superiority.

I see you are trying to be a politician already by just making up facts. Tell me once where I said my children are "better" than anyone else’s? As a matter of fact, in reference to your children, I have only stated factual information, or asked questions to you as to their current well being!

When a parent speaks down of other parents' children then that in itself is a claim that yours are better then those.

As to degrading other families? I only stated factual information about people. Show me once where I did not. Therefore, if the information you feel I have written is degrading, then the persons themselves have degraded them self...I just reported it.

I did not say you were being dishonest, just degrading other families.

The fact is that the law does degrade families and parents and children and the police enforce those degrading laws.

So yes you give "facts" and yours is honest too, but it is also a cheap and dishonorable degradation of families.

And your kind only degrades other families and other parents while self-righteously defending your own.

I find that disgusting - but it is legal.

You sir, are reprehensible!

I see no problem in that,

because I am against your kind, and to maintain your status quo then I must fail.

 

[JPC sr]

The big pic.

You didn’t watch the show did you?

Are you telling me that every news network that reported the hundreds of thousands of dead bodies found in mass graves across Iraq were lying? You mean they were all in with the Bush propaganda and only JPC had the truth about it? Then please JPC, tell us who murdered all those people and buried them in those mass graves.

You do not give a link, and I must remind you that often post have had links and I have pointed out the errors in the reports.

I can put links showing my side but your claiming proof of guilt for the President of Iraq and not the proof that the Bush administration made those mass graves and Bush has murdered more Iraqis then Presuident Hussein did under the Iraqi law.

You claim "every News network" but the link above is CNN, and many of the Iraqis killed by Americans got left to rot in the desert instead of a mass grave.

 

[clevalley]

Any POS who calls himself an American and makes it a point to call Saddam Hussein ,President Hussein, and then another point to refer to an American President as merely Bush ,isnt fit to occupy the space he takes up in our country.

I placed this unAmerican slice of crap on Ignore so I wouldnt have to see his stupid posts and someone inevitably will quote the fool and get me pissed off.

Even the thought that slime like him would think of running for public is abhorrent.

God Bless America, God Bless our President, God save the US from fools such as this.

Come on! Are you really this naive?

American injustice?

PRESIDENT Bush’s legacy will be determined by what happens years from now and not by what happens tomorrow or what transpired 2 years ago. When the dust settles in Iraq and the good citizens of Iraq are free to live as they choose void of oppression it will be because of President Bush and the Justice of America.

You sit on your behind spewing crap because you have the freedom to do so. Count your blessings that you don't reside in a dictatorship under the rule of a man willing to gas you just for fun.... I'll bet if you did live in such a place you would pray for a civil country to save you and set you free.

I've done a few tours in Iraq and I can tell you what many others will who have been there will. The majority of the Iraqi citizens are extremely thankful for what our "unjust" (as you so ignorantly stated) country has done for them. Don't believe me? Get your ass on an airplane and go see for yourself!

Your attitude of letting sleeping dogs lie still is what forced us to go onto the offensive to begin with. You have the attitude of a beaten man who thinks everything will just come for free... Freedom's price is one you are not willing to pay while others will die for you to be this way. Remember that!

WOW! Normally BB you come in and do a lot of - BUT I must commend you on this!

GREAT perspective from someone who has actually been in the sand!!

Did something strike a nerve with you?

 

[smcop]

And I say - not.

I can not see why you can not accept your own position as a fortunate and blessed man, instead of that pompous pretence of superiority.

I did not say you were being dishonest, just degrading other families.

So yes you give "facts" and yours is honest too, but it is also a cheap and dishonorable degradation of families.

And your kind only degrades other families and other parents while self-righteously defending your own.

I find that disgusting - but it is legal.

I am far superior to you as a parent. It isn't a pompous pretence. It is factual. How do we measure that, well society by their morals, values and laws determine that. Without a measurement of what is right or wrong we are left with nothing. This is a democratic country, and laws are passed in the best interests of society as a whole. You and at least one of your children have opted to violate these laws. That is a choice you made. You dropped your responsibility to your children because of your self righteous views of the legal system.

I am blessed in my position, because I have worked for my position. Not merely maintaining a job, but being a father and a husband. You choose to go the easy route and give up on those things because you were mad at your spouse and decided not to pay her what she is owed. You can come up with any other crap you want, but the fact of the matter is you were so angry with this woman you allowed your children to suffer.

I don't blame your childrens faults on them. I blame them on you! You can't have it both ways. You can't claim to be defiant, but then wine when someone calls you out on it. What is "cheap and dishonorable" about the truth?

Would you rather I lie or just not say anything at all. That's it. You would just rather I not say anything at all, because in your world you are the only person you want heard.

I suggest instead of running for congress, you move to some South American Country and start a dictatorship.

 

[Ponytail]

Just think, JPC could be the next "owned" doll to be in the white house.

 

[BlueBird]

WOW! Normally BB you come in and do a lot of - BUT I must commend you on this!

GREAT perspective from someone who has actually been in the sand!!

Did something strike a nerve with you?

Well yes. Something did strike a nerve. I'm tired of listening to politicians with defeatist attitudes. Our great nation wasn't born and successful over night. It took decades and several wars before we had two legs to stand on. During these wars great men and woman paid with their lives so that today people like JPC can spout off about how great a leader Saddam was. It's absurd and insulting but I applaud him for practicing the rights good men died for no matter how much of a twit he is.

BB

JPC - Great leaders have integrity which is something you clearly lack. I have great faith in democracy which helps me sleep well at night knowing the majority of voters won't waste their preciuos votes on you.

 

[JPC sr]

The big pic.

I am far superior to you as a parent. It isn't a pompous pretence.

I am blessed in my position, because I have worked for my position.

I don't blame your childrens faults on them. I blame them on you!

Would you rather I lie or just not say anything at all.

I suggest instead of running for congress, you move to some South American Country and start a dictatorship.

I say you appear to be an excellant servant to your worldly masters.

 

[smcop]

I say you appear to be an excellant servant to your worldly masters.

Thank you! I say you appear to be the cowardly man you most certainly are! A man who hides behind what he proposes to be his values, when we know the real reason he choose not to pay was because he was angry at a woman.

 

[Ponytail]

I say you appear to be an excellant servant to your worldly masters.

YOU have smcop confused with...oh yea, yourself!

 

[czygvtwkr]

Words will come back to bite you often times.....

 

[hvp05]

I can not see why you can not accept your own position as a fortunate and blessed man, instead of that pompous pretence of superiority.

I say you appear to be an excellant servant to your worldly masters.

Posts like these confirm that you do not want parents to be responsible, honorable, and self-sacrificing for their children - as you have repeatedly claimed.

Here we have a great example in smcop - someone who has never run out on his children, put himself before them, or otherwise acted recklessly towards them... and you can do nothing but attempt to insult him.

You need people to follow your pathetic lead - just like you need people to respond to your posts - because you seek that affirmation and reassurance that your life has not been a complete failure and waste.

Unfortunately for you, that has already been made apparent.

 

[PsyOps]

You do not give a link, and I must remind you that often post have had links and I have pointed out the errors in the reports.

I can put links showing my side but your claiming proof of guilt for the President of Iraq and not the proof that the Bush administration made those mass graves and Bush has murdered more Iraqis then Presuident Hussein did under the Iraqi law.

You claim "every News network" but the link above is CNN, and many of the Iraqis killed by Americans got left to rot in the desert instead of a mass grave.

JPC... your ability to stay with the discussion is, once again, failing. My link was provided in my first post. In which you said you don't watch 60 Minutes anymore. So I am assuming you didn't watch the show this past Sunday.

First of all, that 655,000 figure has been debunked (since you love web links so much). Not even this site claims anywhere near the bogus figure in the Lancet Study; and this is supposed to have the most accurate count based on real body numbers. But I know you're interested in the real truth. The Lancet study was a SURVEY. It wasn't any attempt of a full body count. You'll believe anything that falls right in line with your hatred for Bush, no matter how false it is, even on the surface.

Read carefully JPC... Agent Piro stated that his MONTHS of interegating Saddam (which I might remind you, no torture was done) Saddam admitted HE was the one that lied about his WMD. NOT BUSH, but SADDAM LIED! Any answer to this, or are you going to spew out more worthless propaganda that has nothing to do with the subject at hand?

 

[JPC sr]

The big pic.

JPC... your ability to stay with the discussion is, once again, failing. My link was provided in my first post. In which you said you don't watch 60 Minutes anymore. So I am assuming you didn't watch the show this past Sunday.

First of all, that 655,000 figure has been debunked (since you love web links so much). Not even this site claims anywhere near the bogus figure in the Lancet Study; and this is supposed to have the most accurate count based on real body numbers. But I know you're interested in the real truth. The Lancet study was a SURVEY. It wasn't any attempt of a full body count. You'll believe anything that falls right in line with your hatred for Bush, no matter how false it is, even on the surface.

Those links are not credible, but even if we consider them, it claim only "civilian deaths" instead of the multitudes of other Irqis that got killed by Bush's illegal war.

The Iraq soldiers and their militias do count as dead / killed Iraqis.

Everything the Bush administration claims has flaws and are frauds, like ever Iraqi killed are now always "Al-Qaeda fighters" even when it is an American bomb thrown in the window of a suburb house.

Read carefully JPC... Agent Piro stated that his MONTHS of interegating Saddam (which I might remind you, no torture was done) Saddam admitted HE was the one that lied about his WMD. NOT BUSH, but SADDAM LIED! Any answer to this, or are you going to spew out more worthless propaganda that has nothing to do with the subject at hand?

The word of a interrogator saying the dead President was a liar is not an honorable claim.

 

[bcp]

JPC are you aware that Saddam had sexual relations with goats?

 

[Lenny]

JPC are you aware that Saddam had sexual relations with goats?

Of course he is. He was the goat!

 

[This_person]

The word of a interrogator saying the dead President was a liar is not an honorable claim.

Based upon what credible evidence?

 

[Lenny]

The word of a interrogator saying the dead President was a liar is not an honorable claim.

Of course you are confused by this. The FBI Special Agent has credibility on his side, something you have never known.

 

[JPC sr]

The word of a interrogator saying the dead President was a liar is not an honorable claim.

Based upon what credible evidence?

Of course you are confused by this. The FBI Special Agent has credibility on his side, something you have never known.

You both jump on nothing.

I said it was dis-honorable, and credibility is irrelevant in that deed.

 

[This_person]

You both jump on nothing. I said it was dis-honorable, and credibility is irrelevant in that deed.

Okay, what's dishonorable about a person reporting on the results of their work?

 

[czygvtwkr]

You both jump on nothing.

I said it was dis-honorable, and credibility is irrelevant in that deed.

Everything you say is dis-honorable but you still won't shut up.