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ImnoMensa

ImnoMensa

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I go back a ways. I remember when people in St. Mary's county didnt go to the store and buy chickens , they raised their own. When the time came for Chicken dinner ,you went to the hen house found an old hen that wasnt laying real good a you slaughtered it for dinner. Some cut their heads off and let them flop around and others simply wrung their necks. No one ever gave much thought to the method used to get the dinner when they were sitting there eating it. It sure tasted good.
 
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vegmom

Bookseller Lady
Trust me, the chickens you ate growing up are not the same birds that the Colonel is cooking.

The way they are raised and treated at factory farms is disgusting and just plain cruel. They are debeaked and kept in cages where they can't even turn around or flap their wings. Their feed is full of antibiotics and hormones that we end up eating when we eat the bird. Plus all the waste run off from the Eastern Shore factory farms is hell on the Bay. Not to mention you end up with an "inferior product" (nutritionaly and taste wise) from factory farms.

Since I can't personally attest to the difference in taste between two chickens, I'd say try this: scramble up a couple eggs from local farms (many free range hens around here) and compare the taste to those factory farm produced ones from the grocery store. No contest!
 
Homer J

Homer J

Power Chord
My son's AP Government teacher asked her class the other day if anyone knew what PETA meant. After a brief pause my son said he offered "People Eating Tasty Animals"

That's my boy.
 
tommyjones

tommyjones

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vegmom said:
Trust me, the chickens you ate growing up are not the same birds that the Colonel is cooking.

The way they are raised and treated at factory farms is disgusting and just plain cruel. They are debeaked and kept in cages where they can't even turn around or flap their wings. Their feed is full of antibiotics and hormones that we end up eating when we eat the bird. Plus all the waste run off from the Eastern Shore factory farms is hell on the Bay. Not to mention you end up with an "inferior product" (nutritionaly and taste wise) from factory farms.

Since I can't personally attest to the difference in taste between two chickens, I'd say try this: scramble up a couple eggs from local farms (many free range hens around here) and compare the taste to those factory farm produced ones from the grocery store. No contest!
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did you know they KILL the chickens too? :whistle:
 
godsbutterfly

godsbutterfly

Free to Fly
I don't know if anybody saw it or not but PETA got in trouble awhile back because some of their employees took animals that had been euthanized because they had not been adopted yet (yes they do that) and threw the bodies in dumpsters all over the state of North Carolina instead of disposing of them in accordance with the State Law. This was not PETA's fault according to PETA and they certainly have the money to dispose of animals properly. I was just surprised to hear they euthanize animals they can't find homes for. I thought their purpose was to not kill animals. Does anybody know if that is just for sick animals they rescue?
 
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vegmom

Bookseller Lady
godsbutterfly said:
I don't know if anybody saw it or not but PETA got in trouble awhile back because some of their employees took animals that had been euthanized because they had not been adopted yet (yes they do that) and threw the bodies in dumpsters all over the state of North Carolina instead of disposing of them in accordance with the State Law. This was not PETA's fault according to PETA and they certainly have the money to dispose of animals properly. I was just surprised to hear they euthanize animals they can't find homes for. I thought their purpose was to not kill animals. Does anybody know if that is just for sick animals they rescue?
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I think they were animals that could not be rehabilitated and were suffering. Sometimes putting an animal down is the only humane thing to do.
 
clevalley

clevalley

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vegmom said:
They are debeaked and kept in cages where they can't even turn around or flap their wings.

Their feed is full of antibiotics and hormones that we end up eating when we eat the bird.
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If they are debeaked, how do they eat their feed? :shrug:
 
Cowgirl

Cowgirl

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vegmom said:
Trust me, the chickens you ate growing up are not the same birds that the Colonel is cooking.

The way they are raised and treated at factory farms is disgusting and just plain cruel. They are debeaked and kept in cages where they can't even turn around or flap their wings. Their feed is full of antibiotics and hormones that we end up eating when we eat the bird. Plus all the waste run off from the Eastern Shore factory farms is hell on the Bay. Not to mention you end up with an "inferior product" (nutritionaly and taste wise) from factory farms.

Since I can't personally attest to the difference in taste between two chickens, I'd say try this: scramble up a couple eggs from local farms (many free range hens around here) and compare the taste to those factory farm produced ones from the grocery store. No contest!
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Chickens for meat (broilers, roasters, etc) are not kept in cages. They're kept in chicken houses where they can walk around. They're not fed hormones. It's against the law. The poultry industry has strict guidelines for waste management. Farmers are required to have nutrient management plans for their farms. True, poultry waste does effect the Bay somewhat, but so does every other type of farming, as well as residential homes.

I agree with you about the factory farms being less than desireable, but I just wanted to clear up a few things.


ETA: Oh, and there is a world of difference between a home raised free-range bird and a grocery store bird. :yum: I can even tell a big difference in eggs, too.
 
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Cowgirl

Cowgirl

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clevalley said:
If they are debeaked, how do they eat their feed? :shrug:
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Just the tip of the top part of the beak is removed. They can still eat, drink, and function like a normal chicken. Debeaking just helps prevent them from hurting other chickens.
 

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nitwhit3286

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vegmom said:
Trust me, the chickens you ate growing up are not the same birds that the Colonel is cooking.

The way they are raised and treated at factory farms is disgusting and just plain cruel. They are debeaked and kept in cages where they can't even turn around or flap their wings. Their feed is full of antibiotics and hormones that we end up eating when we eat the bird. Plus all the waste run off from the Eastern Shore factory farms is hell on the Bay. Not to mention you end up with an "inferior product" (nutritionaly and taste wise) from factory farms.

Since I can't personally attest to the difference in taste between two chickens, I'd say try this: scramble up a couple eggs from local farms (many free range hens around here) and compare the taste to those factory farm produced ones from the grocery store. No contest!
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damn straight vegmom!!! Kentucky Fried Cruelty..
 
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vegmom

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tommyjones said:
did you know they KILL the chickens too? :whistle:
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DUH

But look at it this way- does eating an unhealthy animal make you healthy?

No matter your opinion on if it's OK to eat animals or not, if you saw where your dinner came from you'd lose your appetite.

And from a more right-wing approach to the issue contemplate this: most of the cheap feed given to animals that are raised for food is cheap because of heavy government subsidies. That money is not going to family farms either.
 
Dork

Dork

Highlander's MPD
vegmom said:
DUH

But look at it this way- does eating an unhealthy animal make you healthy?

No matter your opinion on if it's OK to eat animals or not, if you saw where your dinner came from you'd lose your appetite.

And from a more right-wing approach to the issue contemplate this: most of the cheap feed given to animals that are raised for food is cheap because of heavy government subsidies. That money is not going to family farms either.
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Are these animals edible? They don't look as tasty as a good ole chicken breast from Popeye's or a big juicy cheeseburger. Are they rabbits? I can't tell. I don't think I've ever tried rabbit. Do they taste like chicken?
 

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AK-74me

AK-74me

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PETA just like so many of these types of organizations is becoming more and ore extreme.

I would of liked to of seen those protesters yesterday though.

I love that video of greenpeace out in the ocean somewhere trying to get along a ship that was doing some legal dumping of barrels. They get along side with their little rubber dingy with a 30 hp outboard and then blam the ships crane drops the 55 gal barrel right on them. Priceless.
 
Sonsie

Sonsie

The mighty Al-Sonsie!
You want to be really yucked out go to an egg farm. My best friend from childhood lived one a big family run one. The chicken were kept 4 to a tiny cage with barely enough room to turn around and they often pecked each other to death. The dead one was yanked out by the feet and replaced with another, the top cages crapped on the bottom ones, they stood on open wire cage bottoms and were never allowed out until dead. It stunk enough to knock you out in summer. I hope the conditions have changed over the years but I doubt it.
 
Sonsie

Sonsie

The mighty Al-Sonsie!
Beelzebaby666 said:
Everyone should be a farmer. Then no one would complain about how/where their food was raised or grown.:yay:
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I just bought a hobby farm out west, I was thinking of getting a few chickens for eggs. I'd get too attached to ever kill them for meat though. That and I can't even clean a fish without feeling queezy :lmao:
 
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