My God, I hope that you’re never a victim of a violent crime, but if you are I hope nobody judges you for the things you may have done wrong in your life. This is the problem with our society. A person does something wrong, then we look at the actions of the victim to justify why this offender may not be inhumane? I by no means am a bleeding heart liberal, but I do believe anybody can be a victim. If a prostitute says she no longer wants to be a prostitute, or she wants to be choosey about her customers, then she has that right. When bad behavior gets in the way of that, i.e.; putting a gun to her head, she no longer is a prostitute; she has now become a victim! If not then we go back to the old days of the girl wanted it because she dressed provocatively! A real man controls his urge to take advantage of any woman. A real man wouldn't be with a prostitute!
Philly Judge Criticized for Rape Decision
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My God, I hope that you’re never a victim of a violent crime, but if you are I hope nobody judges you for the things you may have done wrong in your life. This is the problem with our society. A person does something wrong, then we look at the actions of the victim to justify why this offender may not be inhumane? I by no means am a bleeding heart liberal, but I do believe anybody can be a victim. If a prostitute says she no longer wants to be a prostitute, or she wants to be choosey about her customers, then she has that right. When bad behavior gets in the way of that, i.e.; putting a gun to her head, she no longer is a prostitute; she has now become a victim! If not then we go back to the old days of the girl wanted it because she dressed provocatively! A real man controls his urge to take advantage of any woman. A real man wouldn't be with a prostitute!
~mellabella~
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Who are any of us to judge her based on her 'job'? You don't know her circumstances. I doubt when she was a child she grew up saying "I want to be a prostitute!" Life experiences encourage people to make bad decisions, but that doesn't mean that her right to refuse sex should be taken away from her. She is still a human being.
And she now has to live with being raped every single day for the rest of her life. Most of you will NEVER know what that is like. What these so called men did, was WRONG. No person ever has the right to do that. I hear all the time how its the womans body, its her choice what she wants to do with it. Well, in this case that choice was taken away from her, and she will never see justice for it!
And she now has to live with being raped every single day for the rest of her life. Most of you will NEVER know what that is like. What these so called men did, was WRONG. No person ever has the right to do that. I hear all the time how its the womans body, its her choice what she wants to do with it. Well, in this case that choice was taken away from her, and she will never see justice for it!
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Really? I don't think it cheapens what happened to me in 1989 one bit.
Rape is an act of violence and has more to do with dominance and control than sex.
She did not consent. Lack of consent= rape, period.
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theArtistFormerlyKnownAs
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well, i for one have been convinced that it probably should have been a rape charge. when you really think about it, the woman can even technically say "no, get off" even after penetration if she is in pain correct? The only thing that is really keeping me from wholehardedly calling this "rape" is that I didn't read anywhere that she told them no. If she never actually said that these guys couldn't have sex with her, then it would be the correct call to make it theft of services. I just have a hunch that she really had no problem with letting these people sex her. I feel that she was probably very pissed that she wasn't getting paid, but I don't know if she was really in fear of anything at this point. Granted, i could be wrong, and thats why i'm sort of leaning towards calling it rape now, but i'd like to see an actual transcript and see if she claimed to say "no" at any point.
Vegmom, unless you were prostituting when you were raped, it is hard to really compare the situations. I'm sorry you had this happen to you and i hope that the perp got what was coming to him(?).
thanks (everyone who posted in the most recent...ten or so posts) for your input which helped sway my position a little.
They refuse to pay her. She says "deals off- goodbye" or something to that effect and a gun in pointed to her head.
She was then forced to have sex with not only the two she had initial contact with, but several others as well. Gang rape is extremely violent and she will be scarred for life from this attack.
A woman has domain over her own body. This woman was using her body to earn a living, but she had the right to "refuse service" so to speak.
It is not sex if you have a gun pointed to your head. It is rape!
There is nothing more terrifying in this world than fearing for your life and not knowing if an attacker will kill you after he's had his way. I've had 18 years to deal with my own rape and I still jump out of my skin when someone unexpectedly knocks on my front door.
She was then forced to have sex with not only the two she had initial contact with, but several others as well. Gang rape is extremely violent and she will be scarred for life from this attack.
A woman has domain over her own body. This woman was using her body to earn a living, but she had the right to "refuse service" so to speak.
It is not sex if you have a gun pointed to your head. It is rape!
There is nothing more terrifying in this world than fearing for your life and not knowing if an attacker will kill you after he's had his way. I've had 18 years to deal with my own rape and I still jump out of my skin when someone unexpectedly knocks on my front door.
~mellabella~
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It really is a hard decision when you weren't there in the room, watching. But the fact that the guy HAD to pull a gun in order to get her to comply, gives me the feeling she wasn't as willing as most think. You know what I mean? It was a scare tactic.