Plane Crash outside Lexington Kentucky

[Pete]

Here's an article that explains some of these things. Looks like if the had 50 feet more, they would have made it.
Article

That is true, other factors could have doomed them like; How far from the end did they start there roll? Were they right on the end or did they roll down a few feet to straighten up, brake and then pour on the power, thus shortening an already short runway by not starting on the end.

Also A/C weight is critical. They do not weigh A/C baggage or passengers or the A/C, they "estimate". I remember reading a while back that the estimates they use were way off, something like 180 lbs per person with baggage. It could be the plane was heavier than they calculated for. Or they hoped it was lighter than they calculated when they rotated.

 

[Larry Gude]

Is there a rule that says...

and hope we clear the trees.

...that there MUST be trees at the end of every runway?

 

[Larry Gude]

And we gotta have one of these...

never left the ground before slamming into a berm about 265 feet off the end of a short runway, authorities said Monday night.

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[Larry Gude]

Pete knows his stuff...

In 1993, a pilot reported making a similar error. He realized his mistake only after checking his aircraft's heading indicator before taking off,

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[DoWhat]

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http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/takeoff.html

 

[Larry Gude]

Sounds simple enough...

This procedure applies when you have a well-paved runway with plenty of length and no obstructions to worry about

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[Pete]

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Part of the problem with this mishap is that lining up on the wrong runway is such a "duh" move it is almost impossible to rationally explain it.

I knew earlier news reports the plane needed 5000 feet to take off were wrong. There are not too many planes out there that require a mile roll before rotating. This plane could have taken off at about 3600 unfortunately they were 100 feet short. Add to that, they rolled off the runway into the dirt before rotating. This means they more than likely decelerated while plowing through the dirt further dooming them.

I am guessing they had no clue what was going on or they would have gone to an obstructed field take off. Rotate, attain a adequate AOA and fly the airspeed indicator to maintain just enough airspeed to stay airborne until things settle out and you gain altitude and have room to work.

I have been in P-3's practising obstructed field take off's and it is quite freaky but fun.

 

[Ken King]

I heard on the news that the crew was screwed up early on that day. They entered the wrong aircraft and started powering up the generators before they discovered that it wasn't their jet. Then after locating the correct aircraft they rushed checklists and when they, as the only aircraft moving on the field, were cleared for take-off they taxied, turned onto the wrong runway and threw the power to it. All those deaths from being in a rush, sad, sad, sad.

 

[rack'm]

I heard on the news that the crew was screwed up early on that day. They entered the wrong aircraft and started powering up the generators before they discovered that it wasn't their jet. Then after locating the correct aircraft they rushed checklists and when they, as the only aircraft moving on the field, were cleared for take-off they taxied, turned onto the wrong runway and threw the power to it. All those deaths from being in a rush, sad, sad, sad.

A staggering reality of "haste makes waste"