Please help us rent a house.....

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
scottrobts said:
Looks like a wonderful dog. Good luck with your search. Try looking in CRE, it is probably just on the edge of your 25 min commute requirement. You can shorten the commute time with reckless speeding you know :)
:yeahthat: My friends just moved there with their Pit Bull. :yay:
 

Chestr

Member
beerlover said:
"It's a loveable dog and absolutely non-aggressive...." That's what all pit bull owners say. Right up until the day it rips the face off of some unsuspecting toddler or old lady. Why would any landlord take a risk on renting to a pit-bull owner when he could just as easily rent to someone else and forgoe the risk?

Excuse me, sir. I am the owner of this dog. She is four years old. I do dog training as a hobby as dogs are one of my extreme passions. I've forgotten more about dogs than you'll ever bother to learn in your lifetime.

But you can go ahead and excuse me right now for getting on here to defend my honor against an ignorant and uneducated statement.

You didn't know that there are many other dog breeds that are statistically MUCH more probable to bite than a pitt bull but you didn't know that because you havn't done your homework.

but thats okay, right?

You didn't know that landlords can write their lease so that they are not responsible for pets in the case that something should happen because you didn't do your homework.

But thats okay, right?

You didn't know that you're hundreds of times more likely to be assaulted by a human than a dog because you didn't do your homework.

But that's okay right?

You didn't know that you're many THOUSANDS of times more likely to be murdered by a human because you didn't do your homework.

But that's okay right?

You didn't know that pitt bulls are one of the more trainable breeds out there because you didn't do your homework.

But that's okay right?

The truth is that a dog tied up outside on a chain is FOUR times more likely to bite.

Mine lives in the house and gets all the atention and instruction she needs.


Thank you, in your humbleness, for speaking out of turn and helping a FAMILY IN NEED with GREAT PETS TO FIND A HOME TO LIVE IN.

The truth is, we're about the most perfect renters someone could have.

We're clean.
We're BORING.
We don't make loud noise EVER or play music.
We don't EVER party.
We both work full jobs.
We never miss our rent.
We hardly have guests over.

And our pets are GROWN and when I say trained, I mean, TRAINED. Professionally trained. The dang cat is NINE years old for goodness sakes.

And I can fix anything that exists inside a house. So we come with built in maintenance.

Dang! And people hear Pitt bull and run the other way.
 

Mikeinsmd

New Member
Chestr said:
Excuse me, sir. :blahblah: Dang! And people hear Pitt bull and run the other way.
Speaking of doing homework, I suggest you search pitt bulls on here and you will find there are already many threads pertaining to this very subject. The threads contain all the statistics of maulings and deaths and why pitt bulls are feared.

Facts are facts and as vraiblonde stated, you have your priorities confused. You feel it's more important to own a certain breed dog (that communities are now banning) than to find a suitable place to live. Happy house hunting.
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
Wasn't it a pit bull who ripped off that chic's nip on Nip/Tuck when she was having "fun with peanut butter"? :confused:
 

bcp

In My Opinion
A well adjusted pit bull with responsible owners can be one of the best dogs to have.
Neighbor of mine had one in Virginia beach.
the only problem that the dog ever created was that every morning as I was leaving to go to work, there would be a thump in the back of the truck as the dog chased me and jumped in the bed to go for a ride.

He did that to most of the pickups that went down the road past his house if he could catch them.

since I worked construction at the time, I just decided that he would start going with me for the day.
he loved it and the owner really didnt mind.

I would love to have a dog like that for my own.
 

LovingMother

Brenda you are missed!!!
beerlover said:
"It's a loveable dog and absolutely non-aggressive...." That's what all pit bull owners say. Right up until the day it rips the face off of some unsuspecting toddler or old lady. Why would any landlord take a risk on renting to a pit-bull owner when he could just as easily rent to someone else and forgoe the risk?

I don't agree with your comment about "pit bulls" :lalala: and I'm NOT a owner of one myself... However I do have friend that has one.... Her baby is sweet!! She is 4 years old.... Great w/ kids/ppl/and all types of animals...
I myself thinks it's all about how you bring them up....
 

beerlover

New Member
Chestr said:
Excuse me, sir....

You didn't know that there are many other dog breeds that are statistically MUCH more probable to bite than a pitt bull but you didn't know that because you havn't done your homework.

Yes, I know that. Poodles and Cocker Spaniels are much more likely to bite someone. But they also do MUCH less damage. I'll take a nip from a poodle with 20 pounds of pressure in the bite over a nip from a Pit with 2,000 pounds of pressure.

You didn't know that landlords can write their lease so that they are not responsible for pets in the case that something should happen because you didn't do your homework.

Yes, they can write the lease any way they want. But a lawyer for a bite victim can chew right threw that faster than a pit bill through an arm bone.

You didn't know that you're hundreds of times more likely to be assaulted by a human than a dog because you didn't do your homework.

I'm ALL FOR outlawing the breeding of people who have the tendency to attack, also. We can't outlaw people yet, but we CAN outlaw vicious dog breeds (baby steps)..

You didn't know that you're many THOUSANDS of times more likely to be murdered by a human because you didn't do your homework.

See above.

You didn't know that pitt bulls are one of the more trainable breeds out there because you didn't do your homework.

Yes, they are very trainable. That's why they've been trained over decades and decades to be fighting dogs that win money for their owners in dog fights. So easily trained in that field that it has become part of the instinct of the breed which now CAN'T be trained out of an individual dog.

The truth is that a dog tied up outside on a chain is FOUR times more likely to bite.

I don't think any dog should be tied up outside on a chain. But at least if they are chained, and I stay out of the circumference of that chain, I can be sure that it won't bite. Maybe you should chain your dog up INSIDE your home just in case.

Mine lives in the house and gets all the atention and instruction she needs.

Good, keep her there.

Thank you, in your humbleness, for speaking out of turn and helping a FAMILY IN NEED with GREAT PETS TO FIND A HOME TO LIVE IN.

YOU came into this forum asking about renting while owning a pitbull and not being able to understand why people are reluctant to rent to you. I offered a possible reason why. So I figure I helped you.

The truth is, we're about the most perfect renters someone could have.

We're clean.
We're BORING.
We don't make loud noise EVER or play music.
We don't EVER party.
We both work full jobs.
We never miss our rent.
We hardly have guests over.

But you own a traditionally vicious breed of dog, so that makes you NOT the perfect renters. Which is why you are having trouble renting.

And our pets are GROWN and when I say trained, I mean, TRAINED. Professionally trained. The dang cat is NINE years old for goodness sakes.

No one is concerned about your cat. Every pitbull attack that makes the news is always accompanied by statements of how well trained, well behaved, etc, the dog has always been. That is of NO consolation to the person who has to suffer when the dog "forgets". I really don't have anything against you or your dog. I have never had a problem with a pit bull that I've encountered. But since you're spouting all these statistics, maybe you should look at some of the more negative statistics concerning pit bulls and maybe peoples' attitudes towards the breed in general will make a little more sense to you. Start with "Dog attacks resulting in death or maiming".
 

SoftballCrazy

New Member
beerlover said:
Chestr said:
Excuse me, sir....

You didn't know that there are many other dog breeds that are statistically MUCH more probable to bite than a pitt bull but you didn't know that because you havn't done your homework.

Yes, I know that. Poodles and Cocker Spaniels are much more likely to bite someone. But they also do MUCH less damage. I'll take a nip from a poodle with 20 pounds of pressure in the bite over a nip from a Pit with 2,000 pounds of pressure.
Specific breed problems have come w/ every decade, where people are scared due to incidents w/ one particular breed. One decade it was the shepherds, next the doberman, then the rottie, and now the pit bulls. Next decade will be another breed. If you have any questions on the integrity of pits, pls do a search on Pit Bulls - The Real Deal. It is the most informative article I have read. Did you know Helen Keller had a pit bull? Regardless and back on topic, it will be hard to rent anywhere w/ any type of dog for the most part, you're better off trying to buy if possible. BTW, the bite pressure w/ pit bulls is false...
 

Mikeinsmd

New Member
SoftballCrazy said:
Specific breed problems have come w/ every decade, where people are scared due to incidents w/ one particular breed. One decade it was the shepherds, next the doberman, then the rottie, and now the pit bulls. Next decade will be another breed. If you have any questions on the integrity of pits, pls do a search on Pit Bulls - The Real Deal. It is the most informative article I have read. Did you know Helen Keller had a pit bull? Regardless and back on topic, it will be hard to rent anywhere w/ any type of dog for the most part, you're better off trying to buy if possible. BTW, the bite pressure w/ pit bulls is false...
:nono: Lets not spread misinformation. The data is old but I challenge you to post something more recent to disprove this.

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998.

Pitts and Rotts kill, plain and simple.
 

beerlover

New Member
SoftballCrazyDid you know Helen Keller had a pit bull? Regardless and back on topic said:
Helen Keller may have owned a pit bull, but she THOUGHT she owned a lab.

I didn't mean that the bite pressure of a pit is exactly 2000 pounds, just that it is significantly higher than that of a smaller, more statistically nippy breed.

I just think that if a type of animal is dangerous (statistically and generally speaking) to own, it shouldn't be allowed. You can't just go out and buy a lion or a bear and keep in your yard.

I've known two people with Rotts (changing topic slightly) that were the kindest, gentlest, most well-trained dogs you could ever want to meet. I had no qualms about taking my kids around them, and they both had incidents.

One day on a camping trip one of these dogs just didn't like the looks of a lady and her daughter walking down the street in the campground and took off after them at a high rate of speed, snarling and growling, and launched at the lady. She didn't bite her, but kind of rammed her with her nose and knocked her down. Then the dogs owner called her off and she came back. It was totally out of character for the dog and totally unexpected, and scary as hell.

The other dog decided one day that he didn't like a kid riding his bike down the sidewalk in front of his house and he literally broke through the storm door and chased down the kid and ripped him off the bike. He got put down for that.

Those two incidents with normally well-trained and non-aggressive dogs kind of opened my eyes to the point of view of the anti-rott and pit people. For what it's worth.
 

unixpirate

Pitty Party
beerlover said:
"It's a loveable dog and absolutely non-aggressive...." That's what all pit bull owners say. Right up until the day it rips the face off of some unsuspecting toddler or old lady. Why would any landlord take a risk on renting to a pit-bull owner when he could just as easily rent to someone else and forgoe the risk?



Wait till Pixie gets ahold of your arse :buttkick:



Pixie? where art thou Pixie :elaine:
 

beerlover

New Member
unixpirate said:
Wait till Pixie gets ahold of your arse :buttkick:



Pixie? where art thou Pixie :elaine:

Hey Man, sometimes the truth hurts... And
I'm not naive enough to think that what I say or think is going to change somebody else's mind about a pet that they love. I just hope that there are no incidents with that pet for them. There are plenty of other breeds that are just as smart and loyal and everything else that don't have the same bad history.
 

Sadysue

New Member
beerlover said:
Hey Man, sometimes the truth hurts... And
I'm not naive enough to think that what I say or think is going to change somebody else's mind about a pet that they love. I just hope that there are no incidents with that pet for them. There are plenty of other breeds that are just as smart and loyal and everything else that don't have the same bad history.

You know, no one MADE you read this thread. I know WHY people don't like pitbulls, hence my post asking for help to find people that do. Like I said before, the dog fell into my lap. I didn't WANT a pitbull. You seriouly have too much time on your hands. You don't want to help, ignore the thread, it's that simple really.
 

Chestr

Member
what you say is in part true, mike. You have made a good point. Unlike beerman, you've done some homework and that's commendable.

However this problem was later identified by the fact that an uneducated police officer commonly referred to every mixed breed dog and mutt out there as "pitbull" because of the insta-hype so that's what gets put into the report.

There was a study done in texas over a 10 year period that wildly disproves these figures. I would like to challenge your mind, mike, by at least considering my points.

However, beerman, your "truths" are still way off in outer space.

My mother's aunt's nephew's landlord's uncle once had a mean pitbull must make them bad dogs. Furthermore lets not even get started on the inacuracy of the media. I won't even entertain that information for fun.

Here are some true facts.

The only people raising fighting dogs today are a small contigent (est. 1-2%) of criminals and gang members - these people are also selling drugs, carry guns and are a threat to society on many different levels. It's not the dog's fault.

If a gang member shoots someone - dont punnish people by taking guns, punnish the gang members who misuse them.

If a dog who has been mistreated commits a crime - don't punnish the rest of the breed by ELIMINATING IT, punnish the person who made that dog that way.

According to Alfons Estelt of the American Temperament Test Society, Inc. temperament evaluations of American Pit Bull Terriers shows that this breed has a very high passing rate of 95%. The average passing rate for the other 121 breeds of dogs in the tests: 77%.

These temperament tests consist of putting a dog through a series of unexpected situations, some involving strangers.

Any signs of unprovoked aggression or panic in these situations result in failure of the test. The achievement of Pit Bulls in this study disproves that they are inherently aggressive to people. (Please visit ATTS.org)

Pitbulls are actually not time bombs waiting to go off. They are truthfully quite a bit more stable than many other breeds of dogs that are considered to be the "house pet" variety.

ANY DOG from ANY BREED is not inherently evil or unstable just because of its breed. This is a MYTH spurned on by the media. I suppose I can't fault you for buying into it, beer man. Although laughable, your opinions do follow the current trend of misinformation.

But hear this:

I am ALL FOR putting a dog down that commits a violent crime, regardless of breed!! It will help to breed this behavoir out of our future friends. HOWEVER lets punnish the owner too. Lets make it illegal for pet owners who have proven themselves un-fit to have pets to get another one. Let's not euthanize the dog just for the simple fact of what breed it belongs to. Only euthanize the INDIVIDUAL DOGS that deserve it!

Do you know what happens when you ban a breed?

The BAD OWNERS simply switch breeds! Any neglected dog will have the capacity for violence. Any at all...
 
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