awpitt
Main Streeter
...and the public schools must provide an education to special needs children, regardless of the severity of those special needs. Private schools can say "no" to the special needs kids.
Private Schools Getting State Aid
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...and the public schools must provide an education to special needs children, regardless of the severity of those special needs. Private schools can say "no" to the special needs kids.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
People that send their kids to private school still have to pay taxes to fund education.
I think it would be HIGHLY unfair for a private school not to get the same funding as ANY school.
I would assume not a single child in a private school has a parent that doesn't pay state taxes (unless they are an illegal which means they probably don't pay tuition to the private school either)..
Why should a private school have to raise their tuition to where only the top 5% can send their kids there, when EVERYONE pays taxes?
sockgirl77
Well-Known Member
You're correct. Actually, you're 100% correct. The private schools do have that choice. My ex's kids were in SMS. My cousins were in SJS. I heard about the economic classes between those two school. Apparently SJS students referred to the SMS kids as the "poor kids". This actually bothered me because both school have lower, middle, and upper class students.
I used to rant and rave about how I only wanted my kids to receive a private school education. Now...not so much. I was rather disappointed when I saw the lack of education that some of the private schools were providing to their students. I had a horrible experience with one public school, but had a great experience with another. I am so very grateful that my kids go into the charter school.
I truly believe that private schools are an option and should not receive ANY state funding. If the private schools cannot operate with the funding that they receive from tuition and/or religious grants, then they need to make changes inside their organization.
awpitt
Main Streeter
Yes, everyone pays taxes. If someone decides they don't want to avail themselves of the public education that the taxes pay for, that's their choice. They can put their kid in private school and they can pay for it. It's a private choice. There's a reason they're called private schools. If I decide to stay home bond, I still pay taxes that help to maintain the roads.
kwillia
n/a
Because they are a private school and tax payers shouldn't have to build their buildings, pay their overhead, etc.
I have no problem with some tax payer money going to a private school per student that is going to a private school rather than a public school, but no way should a private school expect to be fully or mostly funded by the tax payers.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
I think you have this close to right..
ALthough change private to public in your post above..
Tell them they get x amount of dollars per year per child to teach our kids.. and make it work.
No more getting budgets from the school to the County then billed to the taxpayer, it SHOULD be just the opposite.
If a private school can do it for 5 - 6,000 a year per child so should a public school.
I think my taxpayer money is well spent helping to support a private school and making it a little more affordable for more people to take advantage of them. (and NONE of my children have attended a private school).
awpitt
Main Streeter
Bingo!
awpitt
Main Streeter
Heck, St. Mary's County already provides all bus transportation for the kids who go to private schools.
sockgirl77
Well-Known Member
Private schools do not do it for 5-6k per year. They charge that much in tuition then hold dinners, bake sales, yard sales, bingos, and auctions all year. I know this because I've contributed to them and still continue to do so.
awpitt
Main Streeter
That's a poor comparison for reasons I've already posted.
kwillia
n/a
and as Awpitt pointed out there are things paid for by taxpayer money that private schools don't have to cover that aren't factored into the "5-6k per year" quote.
Private schools in Fl are dealing with kids with problems, and the turnaround for many of them has been remarkable. Nearly all the kids under the voucher program are the ones you described. A real curriculum, along with discipline and instilling work ethic, does wonders for problem kids, and even improves the parents attitude toward schooling.
It is a cultural thing, for sure, especially here.
That's why Fl (and other states should follow the example), offer parents the choice of getting their kids out of bad schools. A portion of the tax dollars paid, whether these parents pay any tax or not, is sent to these schools to get these kids out of the sucky educational environment they are stuck in.
The public school system would do much better to just get back to educating with discipline, not indoctrinating with all kinds of PC and feel-goodness crap.
The public school system should be the catch all, not the end all. All my kids attended public schools, and did just fine in the environment you described. We were not "unprivileged enough" to qualify for any vouchers for private schools, and I hold no grudge to those who can get their kids a better education with tax dollars, and the real opportunity to get out of their loser attitude.
The voucher program works here, and would work there, for those who really want to care and take advantage of it. The public school systems would be wise to let their counties and states manage the system, not the feds. If the states and counties continue to be stupid, well, you just can't fix that.
It all starts with voting.
awpitt
Main Streeter
I completely agree with this. If there is a failing school, parents should have the opportunity to move their kid(s) to a better school (public or private).
sockgirl77
Well-Known Member
They can either move into another school district or fork out the money for private school. People know when they move what schools are options for them. There's no reason that tax dollars should be spent on a child being able to go to another school. If they do it for one child then they'll be forced to do it for all of them. OR they can give the public schools the money that they've allotted for private schools so they can do their jobs and not fail. Also, 9 out of 10 times, it's the parents that failed the child, not the school.
bcp
In My Opinion
I'm not.
Those that can afford a private school are putting their children in a school with positive results.
You get the government involved in it with a voucher system and then you have to fill minority targets, you have to comply with the government propaganda, and the teaching of things that have nothing to do with academic excellence.
then in order for them to show that they are successful, they have to make sure that a certain percentage of the students are graduating, and this leads to the dumbing down of the school in general.
Those that can afford it deserve the right to put their kids in a school not hampered by liberal/government objectives.
Vouchers work, and the money that goes out of the public school budget does not hinder the public school budget. They do not, at least here in Fl, lose money. The amount of money budgeted to schools is still the same based on per student cost.
What also remains the same is lousy public schools will still be bad no matter the money thrown at it (DC system, among others, sound familiar?), while good public schools, regardless of location, will still be good.
What also remains the same is lousy public schools will still be bad no matter the money thrown at it (DC system, among others, sound familiar?), while good public schools, regardless of location, will still be good.