Read something funny. This is no joke , but it sure is funny.

[Hijinx]

"This is Crazy, It's a Disaster" - Public Charging Stations Turn into Electric 'Car Graveyards' in Bitter Chicago Cold (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cullen Linebarger

Electric vehicle owners in the Chicago area have not been able to charge their overpriced method of transportation in the bitter cold this week, leaving scenes of dead electric cars littered across public charging stations.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

These lithium batteries do not like cold weather. See this guy trying to push his car to a charger , and if he gets there it still won't charge.

 

[Clem72]

"This is Crazy, It's a Disaster" - Public Charging Stations Turn into Electric 'Car Graveyards' in Bitter Chicago Cold (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cullen Linebarger

Electric vehicle owners in the Chicago area have not been able to charge their overpriced method of transportation in the bitter cold this week, leaving scenes of dead electric cars littered across public charging stations.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

These lithium batteries do not like cold weather. See this guy trying to push his car to a charger , and if he gets there it still won't charge.

You misread the article. It's okay, they probably intended for you to make the assumption that you did. The car's work fine, they lose about 20% of their range in extreme cold but can still be used and charged as normal. This might catch some people by surprise if they aren't used to the cold and wait until the last minute to charge. This was compounded in Chicago as many of their power stations were not functioning (has nothing to do with the car).

Norway is colder than Chigaco. EVs made up 93% of new car registrations there last year, and they get temperatures down to -40f in winter and the cars still work.

Here's a less biased story on the same situation if you are interested:

Electric vehicle owners face huge challenges amid Chicago cold snap

It’s been years since the city of Chicago has had a prolonged period of cold weather like this, and some residents are learning the hard way that electric vehicles have difficult coping with the frigid conditions too.

www.nbcchicago.com

 

[Hijinx]

You misread the article. It's okay, they probably intended for you to make the assumption that you did. The car's work fine, they lose about 20% of their range in extreme cold but can still be used and charged as normal. This might catch some people by surprise if they aren't used to the cold and wait until the last minute to charge. This was compounded in Chicago as many of their power stations were not functioning (has nothing to do with the car).

Norway is colder than Chigaco. EVs made up 93% of new car registrations there last year, and they get temperatures down to -40f in winter and the cars still work.

Here's a less biased story on the same situation if you are interested:

Electric vehicle owners face huge challenges amid Chicago cold snap

It’s been years since the city of Chicago has had a prolonged period of cold weather like this, and some residents are learning the hard way that electric vehicles have difficult coping with the frigid conditions too.

www.nbcchicago.com

No matter which version we might choose to accept, the fact is that I can get gas any time i want at the gas station while people with electric cars still have to wait much much longer for the car to charge, and if they decide to sit in it and use the heater while it is charging it takes even longer.

 

[Clem72]

No matter which version we might choose to accept, the fact is that I can get gas any time i want at the gas station while people with electric cars still have to wait much much longer for the car to charge, and if they decide to sit in it and use the heater while it is charging it takes even longer.

Which is why I would never buy an EV if I couldn't charge it at home. I have 240v in the garage and two generators (5k/8k), and my driving needs are on average less than 15 miles per day with occasional trips of up to 60 miles. I also have 3 gas vehicles. For me an EV would make a lot of sense, but I haven't bought one yet because I refuse to deal with dealers that play games with market rate adjustments. They tried to tack 30k onto the F-150 Lightning I had ordered, so I cancelled and then they did something similar with the Mustang MachE, so even though that one can be had for an okay price now I still wont buy it.

 

[Kyle]

Which is why I would never buy an EV if I couldn't charge it at home. I have 240v in the garage and two generators (5k/8k), and my driving needs are on average less than 15 miles per day with occasional trips of up to 60 miles. I also have 3 gas vehicles. For me an EV would make a lot of sense, but I haven't bought one yet because I refuse to deal with dealers that play games with market rate adjustments. They tried to tack 30k onto the F-150 Lightning I had ordered, so I cancelled and then they did something similar with the Mustang MachE, so even though that one can be had for an okay price now I still wont buy it.

Not to worry.

Once they have a lot full of the things and can't peddle them further the price will drop.

Or they'll just gather them all and crush them like GM did.

 

[Hijinx]

I would buy an EV if it was made for what it is good for, and the price was right.

To go 13 miles I do not need expensive seats ,electric windows, heated seats, a great audio system a system that drives it for me, cruise control.
I just need a basic car to drive 30 miles out and back, If i want to go farther i can get an ICE powered comfortable car with all of the extra's
I need it for under $15,000, and it doesn't even have to have a trunk big enough for golf clubs. or even 4 doors.

 

[Hijinx]

Can anyone tell me how much farther an EV would go without all of the elite buttons and gadgets on it.? If it was 1,000 or 1500 lbs. lighter how far would it go?

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Can anyone tell me how much farther an EV would go without all of the elite buttons and gadgets on it.? If it was 1,000 or 1500 lbs. lighter how far would it go?

Weight doesn't affect the range by much. The size of the hole it has to poke through the air has more of effect than anything.

 

[SamSpade]

and my driving needs are on average less than 15 miles per day with occasional trips of up to 60 miles. I

And that's a big reason. My mom used to have a golf cart she drove around her retirement community, which had most of the amenities she'd ever need. MUCH less reason to drive a car with ICE (which she did have when needed). I can imagine a life in retirement in a warm, sunny community where I don't need to go very far. An EV would suit me fine.

I think the push for EVs does come from people whose driving needs ARE minimal, but that they don't understand just how many of their fellow citizens do a lot more than that. When I've lived IN cities - sometimes driving seemed like a nuisance. I recall many times, in my twenties, where the city was so congested, I could always walk to and from where I wanted to go much faster than I could drive and find parking.

 

[SamSpade]

I need it for under $15,000, and it doesn't even have to have a trunk big enough for golf clubs. or even 4 doors.

A golf cart?

 

[Hijinx]

A golf cart?

Not really ,more like a 1960 VW with just enough of the accoutrements to last me the half hour drive. a heater and windshield wipers.

 

[Hijinx]

Weight doesn't affect the range by much. The size of the hole it has to poke through the air has more of effect than anything.

It seems to affect the hell out of the pickup when towing a load.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

It seems to affect the hell out of the pickup when towing a load.

The aero of the trailer etc is terrible, once you get it up to speed the weight itself doesn't require much extra to keep it moving.

Then with EVs the kinetic energy is recaptured via braking if done relatively slowly.

 

[vraiblonde]

I'm not opposed to the concept of an EV; my problem with them is that they're not ready but being rushed and pushed anyway for political agenda purposes. I'm not wedded to any type of energy, I just need it to work and be reliable. Solar, wind, and EVs aren't reliable.

It's like the corp I work for in my other life: they got this new software system, even though there was nothing wrong with the old software, and they rushed it through for a Jan 1 rollout. Jan 1 comes around and we get an email saying, nope it's gonna be Jan 8. Jan 8 comes and we get an email saying there are only certain features we can use. Finally on Jan 12 we get an email saying everything is working. We try to send an email to inquiries....nope, doesn't work. Try to record and deposit rent checks....that doesn't work either. Also the server is barfing up old inquiries by the hundreds and there's no way to tell what's new and what's old. Oh, and no way to close a ticket and mark it complete - it sits in limbo in "Follow Up".

The point being that corp America isn't going to use the product, so they don't really give a chit if it works or not.

 

[Kyle]

And I look at it as a strategic error.

Single Point of Failure.

If everything is electric, it ALL suffers.

Light.

Heat.

Water.

Food.

Transportation.

Communication.

All of it.

 

[SamSpade]

And I look at it as a strategic error.

Single Point of Failure.

If everything is electric, it ALL suffers.

Light.

Heat.

Water.

Food.

Transportation.

Communication.

All of it.

YES - this is the thing that scares me most about transitioning to more and more electric - when it fails, you're toast.

I already live on a well - without electric - I'm out of water. I have a pool, so I can flush the toilet with pool water. But no showers.
Actually, without electric, I don't have heat either - hot water OR heat - it goes off - I am screwed. Obviously - can't cook either.
Phone - except cell phone - is VOI. No electric - no phone.

IF I was dumb enough to do EV - electric goes out, no phone, no water, no heat and can't go anywhere or cook food.

No thanks.

 

[GURPS]

YES - this is the thing that scares me most about transitioning to more and more electric - when it fails, you're toast.

Oh the system is ' flawless ' and never breaks down ... green energy will always be there ..... the sun shines and the wind blows

 

[SamSpade]

Oh the system is ' flawless ' and never breaks down ... green energy will always be there ..... the sun shines and the wind blows

Unless there is a breaktrhough in fusion power - solar, wind and green energy will never be able to catch up to the increasing demands for energy. Right now, there's very little that can compete with the energy density provided by what we have. in use now.

And demand is increasing. Unless we completely cover the entire Southwest in solar panels - we're just not going to be able to produce the power needed by industry and the nation as a whole. GREEN Energy just doesn't pack enough power.

This is of course, presuming nobody counts nuclear as "green". In the short term, nuke is the only thing that's really gonna save us.

 

[DaSDGuy]

And I look at it as a strategic error.

Single Point of Failure.

If everything is electric, it ALL suffers.

Light.

Heat.

Water.

Food.

Transportation.

Communication.

All of it.

And all that electricity is generated how? Harry Potter's Magic Wand?

 

[Kyle]

And all that electricity is generated how? Harry Potter's Magic Wand?

Wishin' and hopin' and thinkin' and prayin'... Plannin' and dreamin' each night ....