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BuddyLee

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Randy Moss to Patriots for 4th round pick. What a steal!

The AFC might as well pack it up this year.
 
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Big Fatty

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BuddyLee said:
Randy Moss to Patriots for 4th round pick. What a steal!

The AFC might as well pack it up this year.

Randy Moss will be a disease for the Patriots, mark my words. The Patriots will regret this move as the Eagles did with TO.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
Big Fatty said:
Randy Moss will be a disease for the Patriots, mark my words. The Patriots will regret this move as the Eagles did with TO.
They haven't had any problems with the supposed "bad" players in the past. It's probably because they 'win'.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
In the 5th round, the Washington Redskins select...

...Dallas Sartz LB USC

One thing is for certain, he needs to change his name.:lmao:
 

Otter

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Larry Gude said:
...personality, I'd take issue with that. As I am a B, a B+ is quite the compliment, especially coming from you! :lmao:

It was a C+ until the last line, which was perfect. :whistle:

Larry Gude said:
We're a living, breathing band aid commercial.
 

BuddyLee

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Strengths: Possesses good size and the frame to add even more bulk as a "SAM" linebacker in the NFL. Reads keys well, has adequate initial quickness and can make plays behind the line of scrimmage. Plays with a good motor and always seems to be around the ball at the end of the play. Plays with a mean streak and flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Times blitzes well, takes the shortest path to the passer and flashes the ability to power through blockers in the middle. Has long arms and generally gets hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback. He pays attention to details and displays good football intelligence. Covered kicks at the collegiate level, blocked a punt during sophomore season and should make an impact on special teams.

Weaknesses: Plays too high, hasn't shown great lower body strength and gets driven back at times. Doesn't always take sound angles to the ball and gets caught out of position at times. Takes too long to open hips when forced to turn and run downfield and isn't fast enough to run with most backs. Depth in drops is inconsistent and doesn't show great awareness in zone coverage. Uses hands too much in coverage and could draw some flags if doesn't improve technique. Lacks ideal ball skills and isn't a playmaker. Fails to breakdown in space too much and is an inconsistent open field tackler. Missed most of the 2005 season with a dislocated shoulder and durability is somewhat of a concern.

Overall: Sartz saw action as a backup SLB linebacker and on special teams in 12 of 13 games as a true freshman in 2002, finishing with 8 total tackles and one interception. In 2003, he played at both SLB and safety, appearing in all 13 games and starting the final six at linebacker. He recorded 60 total tackles, six tackles for loss, two sacks, and a blocked punt. Sartz appeared in all 13 games in 2004 at SLB linebacker and registered 48 total tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, and one interception, earning an All-Pac 10 honorable mention. The 2005 season ended for him after dislocating his shoulder against Arkansas (9/17) and receiving a medical redshirt. Sartz returned in 2006 and started all 13 games, making 70 total tackles, 9.5 tackles for loss, seven sacks, one forced fumble, and two fumble recoveries, garnering his second All-Pac 10 honorable mention selection.

Sartz may not be strong enough to consistently match up at "SAM" linebacker in the NFL and he's not fast or athletic enough to play in space. However, he is a tough overachiever-type with good size. Sartz is tough against the run, he can get to the quarterback and he should be a quality special teams' contributor in the NFL. He projects as a late-round pick or a rookie free agent.

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Larry Gude

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I dunno about...

Big Fatty said:
Randy Moss will be a disease for the Patriots, mark my words. The Patriots will regret this move as the Eagles did with TO.


...that. he's going to a vet laden team of multiple SB winners, not wanna bee's like the Raiders and Vikes. Guys like him can mess up lesser teams, like TO did in San Fran and Philly. Notice he didn't cause mayhem in Big D? Big teams with big coaches can deal with big personalities and big a holes.

I'd say it's more likely that this is a nightmare for every body else, like Buddy Lee said, than trouble for the Pats.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
H.B. Blades
Height: 5-11
Weight: 237
Position: Inside Linebacker
College: Pittsburgh

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OVERVIEW

In the glory days of Miami Hurricanes football during the 1980s, the Blades family was college football's version of royalty, as brothers Bennie (safety) and Brian (receiver) starred on opposite sides of the ball. Younger brother, Al, a safety, later followed them in Miami folklore as all three would go on to play in the National Football League.

Bennie, who starred for the Detroit Lions from 1988-96 and Seattle Seahawks in 1997, earning All-Pro status, was hoping that his son would carry on the family tradition by playing for the Hurricanes, but the youngster wanted to create his own legacy, opting to enroll at Pittsburgh. There, he still has ties to his father's and uncles' glory days, as the Panthers' head coach is none other than Dave Wannstedt, who served on Miami's staff from 1986-88 as defensive coordinator and coached Bennie Blades at UM.

H.B. Blades earned four football letters and also lettered in track and field at Plantation High School, where he was also a three-year staff writer for the student newspaper. He earned first-team All-Florida Class 6A honors (largest classification) as a senior and was second- team All-Florida as a junior. He was selected one of 50 National Players of the Year by Old Spice "Red Zone" and was a two time first-team All-Broward County Athletic Association (BCAA) and All-Broward County choice.

Blades was selected to play in the Broward-Dade County All-Star Game. He was rated the nation's No. 17 linebacker by Tom Lemming and received Super Prep All-Dixie Team honors. He was rated one of Florida's top 100 prospects by Rivals100.com and picked up Prep Star All-Southeast Region.

A four-year starter at linebacker, Blades compiled 148 tackles, five forced fumbles, three interceptions and three quarterback sacks as a senior. He set Plantation records for tackles in a career (409), season (154) and game (21). His 49 career starts also established a school mark.

He led Plantation to the district championship his senior and freshman seasons, as the team produced an undefeated regular season (10-0) and 11-1 overall mark in 2002 to reach No. 20 in the USA Today national rankings.

Blades was thrust right into the action upon enrolling at Pittsburgh in 2003, playing in all 13 games at strongside outside linebacker. He started against Virginia in the Continental Bowl, finishing his rookie season with 57 tackles (41 solos), 4 ½ stops for losses, a blocked kick and a fumble recovery.

In 2004, Blades took over strongside linebacker duties, earning All-Big East Conference first-team and Panthers MVP honors. He started a string of three consecutive seasons in leading the team in tackles, piling up 108 (58 solos) with two sacks and 10 ½ stops behind the line of scrimmage. He caused and recovered a fumble and intercepted three passes while deflecting two others.

Blades was named team captain in 2005, as he moved to middle linebacker. He was again named first-team All-Big East, leading the conference with 121 tackles (67 solos). He also had one sack and 3 ½ stops for losses. He recovered two fumbles and caused another. He also batted away six passes while producing one interception for a touchdown.

In 2006, Blades was a first-team All-American, All-Big East and ECAC All-Star. He was named the conference's Defensive Player of the Year and was a semifinalist for the Chuck Bednarik Award and Butkus Award.

The Lott Trophy quarterfinalist was also chosen team MVP. He ranked fourth in the nation with 147 tackles (86 solos), adding a sack and 10 ½ stops behind the line of scrimmage. He blocked two kicks, intercepted two passes and deflected seven others. He also recovered two fumbles and had one forced fumble.

In 48 games at Pittsburgh, Blades started 36 times (23 at middle linebacker, 13 at strongside linebacker). He ranks third in school history with 433 tackles (252 solos), adding four sacks for minus-25 yards and 28 stops for losses totaling 85 yards. He recovered six fumbles, caused three others and blocked three kicks. He gained 54 yards on six interception returns (9.0 avg) with a touchdown and had 15 pass deflections.
ANALYSIS

Positives: Has a short, squat frame, but shows very good lower body thickness, especially in his calves and ankles to anchor firmly at the point of attack … Plays with a consistently high motor and compensates for a lack of ideal size with great effort and tenacity … Has the straight-line burst and low pad level to be a disruptive force taking on lead blockers in the inside rush lanes … Needs room to build up a head of steam, but once he gets going, he is a good collision tackler, but can also wrap-up with effectiveness, bringing his hands well to lock on and secure … Hits with good pop and explosion on contact … Does a good job of calling defensive assignments and making pre-snap adjustments … Vocal leader who plays until the whistle … Has a good feel for blocking schemes and looks very natural attacking the ball, locating it quickly and showing urgency making the play … Despite his small frame, he does a good job with gap control because of his ability to play off blocking schemes … Lacks the size to split double teams, but works hard to clog the rush lanes and will not hesitate to take on the lead blocker or offensive guard and use his hands to stack … Uses his hands efficiently to protect his feet on the move and it is hard for opponents to cut him, as he shows good balance and nimble feet to step over trash … Uses his hands adequately to play off blocks when working in-line, but can be overwhelmed by bigger linemen … Doesn't have the loose hips to easily flow to the ball, but makes every effort to get there … Able to run through the pile and bounce outside to makes some plays along the perimeter … Does a good job of keeping plays in front of him and compensates for a lack of blazing speed by taking proper angles to close … Uses his hands with force to reroute underneath receivers … Has experience to play on the outside on the strong side … Very good at anticipating the quarterback's actions and won't take false steps in misdirection or bite on pump fakes … Catches cleanly away from his frame, showing natural hands for the interception.

Negatives: Shorter than ideal and lacks the upper body strength needed to split double teams … Active with his hands, but has short arms which prevent him from countering reach blocks or disengaging when a bigger blocker latches on to his jersey … Will get blown off the line when trying to plug gaps (only when he gets too high in his stance, causing his base to narrow) … Good read-and-react type, but has struggled some in the classroom … Has hip stiffness that prevents him from coming out of his backpedal cleanly (hip problems also give him marginal flexibility, making him a liability dropping back in man coverage outside the short area) … Needs space and must keep plays in front of him in order to handle pass coverage assignments … Has limited range to play in space … Charges hard on the blitz, but generally needs a rolling start to get going, lacking the sudden burst to attack the gaps … Does not have the pass rush moves needed to apply consistent pocket pressure (needs to develop second moves and show more quickness in his attempts to get up field) … Slow to shed due to short arms and adequate upper body power.

Compares To: Keith Adams, Miami … Like Adams, Blades will play until the whistle and compensates for a lack of size and quickness with excellent field instincts and vision. He is a tenacious wrap-up tackler who is best when given room to move. He loves to mix it up in the trenches, but will get bounced around vs. double teams. He is a secure wrap-up tackler, but his stiff hips are evident as he struggles with his backpedal, making him a liability on passing plays.
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BuddyLee

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Jordan Palmer QB UTEP ....
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fo...ayers/3300.html

SI Grade
3.29
[SI Grading System]
Position:
QB
Class:
Sr
School:
UTEP
Conference:
Conference USA
Ht., Wt.:
6-5.5, 229
40 Time:
4.95

BIOGRAPHY: Four-year starter awarded All-Conference honors every year since his sophomore campaign. Passing totals included 65.7%/3,585/26/14 as a senior. Junior numbers included 3,503 passing yards with 29 touchdown strikes.

POSITIVES: Strong-armed pocket passer who struggles making his reads. Patient, puts touch on throws when necessary and loses nothing passing on the move. Displays a good sense of knowing where receivers are on the field.

NEGATIVES: Stares down his primary target from the get-go. Late on timing throws as receivers are waiting on passes out of their breaks. Poor accuracy down the field. Consistently tries to force the ball into coverage.

ANALYSIS: Showing flashes of ability throughout college, Palmer has yet to put together a complete game. Will get late-round consideration yet if he continues to make poor decisions he will quickly be looking for a new line of work.

PROJECTION: Middle Seventh Round
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Big Fatty

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Larry Gude said:
...that. he's going to a vet laden team of multiple SB winners, not wanna bee's like the Raiders and Vikes. Guys like him can mess up lesser teams, like TO did in San Fran and Philly. Notice he didn't cause mayhem in Big D? Big teams with big coaches can deal with big personalities and big a holes.

I'd say it's more likely that this is a nightmare for every body else, like Buddy Lee said, than trouble for the Pats.

Didn't TO go to Philly after they went to 3 straight NFC Championships or something like that? TO screwed up a vet-laden team. He's gone to Dallas and done the same.
Is Moss even 100% healthy? I doubt it. Hams are hard to completely come back from. I think the Pats are inheriting a receiver that also runs routes when he wants to. Something Brady will likely get frustrated with.
Compound that with the fact Moss is 30. He also hasn't "produced" at a Top 5 receiver level for the last 3 years.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
In the 7th round and their last pick, the Washington Redskins select...

...Tyler Ecker TE, Michigan.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sc...tylerecker.html
Tyler Ecker
Height: 6-61/8 | Weight: 246 | 40-Time: 4.91

Official Bio

Strengths:
Has a good frame and there is room to add weight...Excellent hands...Knows how to get open...Hard worker with a good motor...Will high point balls...Still has some upside...Real nice body control and ball skills...He's naturally athletic...Aggressive.

Weaknesses:
Does not have the ideal bulk that you look for...Needs to get stronger...Was not very productive...Provides little in terms of running after the catch...He is not fast, quick or explosive...Lacks a burst...Older than most prospects...Average blocker.

Notes:
Took a redshirt in 2000 and then he left school for two years to serve a Mormon mission...Was not given many opportunities to shine in the Wolverine offense...A bit of a sleeper...Hails from a program known for sending tight ends to the pros.
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Career Statistics
Year GP Rec Yds YPC TD
2000 DNP - - - -
2003 13 7 98 14.0 0
2004 12 17 157 9.2 2
2005 12 21 285 13.6 2
2006 8 12 155 12.9 2
Totals 45 57 695 12.2 6
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
Big Fatty said:
Didn't TO go to Philly after they went to 3 straight NFC Championships or something like that? TO screwed up a vet-laden team. He's gone to Dallas and done the same.
Is Moss even 100% healthy? I doubt it. Hams are hard to completely come back from. I think the Pats are inheriting a receiver that also runs routes when he wants to. Something Brady will likely get frustrated with.
Compound that with the fact Moss is 30. He also hasn't "produced" at a Top 5 receiver level for the last 3 years.
Moss is not TO, there is little comparison.

Moss hasn't produced the last 2-3 years because he's been with Da' Raida's. Bet you won't have to guess long to find out how their O-line and offense in general has done the last few years.

I'm not a betting man usually but I'd be willing to bet that you're wrong here.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Yep...

Big Fatty said:
Didn't TO go to Philly after they went to 3 straight NFC Championships or something like that? TO screwed up a vet-laden team. He's gone to Dallas and done the same.
Is Moss even 100% healthy? I doubt it. Hams are hard to completely come back from. I think the Pats are inheriting a receiver that also runs routes when he wants to. Something Brady will likely get frustrated with.
Compound that with the fact Moss is 30. He also hasn't "produced" at a Top 5 receiver level for the last 3 years.


...and TO's first year with the Eagles they went to their 4th straight NFC title game and also made the SB. His second, and last year, with them was when the wheels came off.

I'm not saying either guy is a jewel other than talent and I'm just making an argument that IF Moss has great year left in him, it's most likely gonna happen in an environment where the SB is on the line, on a vet team.

Apparently, he is quite humbled by being a Pat and is excited. It is also said that his contract and him will be gone the first time he screws up.

Again, I'm just arguing right guy/right situation. TO was a net asset to Dallas last year. Maybe the wheel come off again this year. It's just I've seen them both live and, especially Moss, his talent is jaw dropping and this could be monstrous for NE.

However, I am OK with this being a disaster for NE. :lmao:
 
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