punjabigyrl
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Whatever fancies you clevalley. Your comment is exactly why I am teaching my kids ALL religions.
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toppick08
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punjabigyrl
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clevalley
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itsbob
I bowl overhand
... "I don't care if you believe in god or not. I just want you to lead a good life."
ED ZACHARY!Like Mom would be proud that I go to church every Sunday, but was a hitman for the mob!
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jenbengen
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I can appreciate your personal relationship, without a doubt. But, church isn't considered a "middle man". The Bible considers church as part of the body of Christ and goes into detail about the purpose of church. It isn't really a "middle man" as many people think, if the church functions how the Bible intends for it to function.
jenbengen
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I knew I liked you from day one...........
Goooo St Pauls (or First Saints...whatever we call ourselves these days).
Oh, and to answer the actual topic question- I'm raising my children in a methodist church and, to be perfectly honest, hope they follow our lead as teenagers and adults, but I will never force anything on them. It's a personal journey for them and I won't stand in the way of them discovering things for themselves. I resent how my mother acted to this day for not attending my baptism as an adult because I wasn't being baptised Catholic. I won't be that person to my kids. They can make their own decisions, regardless of what I want for them.
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itsbob
I bowl overhand
I can appreciate your personal relationship, without a doubt. But, church isn't considered a "middle man". The Bible considers church as part of the body of Christ and goes into detail about the purpose of church. It isn't really a "middle man" as many people think, if the church functions how the Bible intends for it to function.
The Bible states Church HAS to be a part of the relationship.. and who wrote the Bible??
jenbengen
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I can appreciate your personal relationship, without a doubt. But, church isn't considered a "middle man". The Bible considers church as part of the body of Christ and goes into detail about the purpose of church. It isn't really a "middle man" as many people think, if the church functions how the Bible intends for it to function.
However, this also is open to interpretation.
In my humble opinion, no matter how flawed it is, too many times the person acting as the middleman, forgets the message.
Jim Jones is the classic example, and we know that power corrupts.
The Reformation was supposed to call attention to the poor health of the Roman Catholic Church, which had been ailing since the Papacy had taken the place of the Western Roman Emperor, but what resulted, was a schism that we have seen up to this day. It's relationship with the Eastern Church is yet to be resolved also.
More muslims have been killed in the internicine warfare between their sections, so they arn't free from the fallacies either.
We each come to God or whatever you may call the greater Deity by different paths.
godsbutterfly
Free to Fly
I also taught my kids what I believe in all aspects. I always felt that I wouldn't be a good parent if I wasn't living by example to the best of my ability. So, my kids know I'm not perfect but they also know where I stand on moral issues and on God.
itsbob
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SShewbert
What love is all about
I agree. I have made some mistakes. I will not lie to my kids about what I have done just so they wont do it. I do not want to be a hypocrite. Instead I plan on telling them I have been there, it was a mistake for me but you have to learn on your own. If you can learn by my mistakes then great that you wont have to go through that yourself. If it takes you going through it to learn I will be here for you.
You are doing as any loving parent(s) would do.....you care. Seems like if we had more of that today, then a whole mess of problems would be passe'.
SShewbert
What love is all about
I can appreciate your personal relationship, without a doubt. But, church isn't considered a "middle man". The Bible considers church as part of the body of Christ and goes into detail about the purpose of church. It isn't really a "middle man" as many people think, if the church functions how the Bible intends for it to function.
Yes the church is the body of Christ. It also states though that wherever 2 or 3 people are gathered in God's name you have established a church. The church is the people that are worshipping God, not the building in which the people are in.
There's nothing wrong in making mistakes..as long as you keep learning from them. Lord knows I have made a boatload and I guess my curse...lol...is to wander until I have learned from all of them ..or the Great Spirit decides to ZAP me good !
Xaquin44
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The Bible considers church as part of the body of Christ and goes into detail about the purpose of church. It isn't really a "middle man" as many people think, if the church functions how the Bible intends for it to function.
the bible states the exact opposite.
"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward."
"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."
Matthew 6 vs. 5 and 6
straight from the lips of jesus.
but anyway.
Well said,
When I lived in Hawaii, the biggest hypocrites were the ones that professed the loudest..they were also the most racist in a supposed melting pot.