SmallTown
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Actually, doesn't state that at all. Nice twist on your topic title though.
But I mentioned in another thread, instead of trying to connect all these wild dots all over the place, you would think the administration would have come forth with this information, especially while trying to gain support at home and with the international community
But I mentioned in another thread, instead of trying to connect all these wild dots all over the place, you would think the administration would have come forth with this information, especially while trying to gain support at home and with the international community
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czygvtwkr
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Ever think maybe that Putin didnt want the world to know the Russians were giving us info? After all they are having their own problems with muslims.
I am sure the Russian intellegence had a big impact on the course of future events.
So if the AP writer said that and not me that would make it true?
I am sure the Russian intellegence had a big impact on the course of future events.
So if the AP writer said that and not me that would make it true?
SmallTown
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You're sure of it? Was that statement on fox news at well?
You would be surprised by the communcations between us and the russians. I really doubt they would be too concerned about anyone finding out. And, I'm sure our intellegence would have looked hard into it and would have been able to come out with it without involving the russians at all. Happens all the time. Quite a bit of our intellegence relies on foreign contacts which normally go unheard of.
The hypocrisy of the Left is stunning. They ##### when they have to be inconvenienced by security, then they ##### when something untoward happens. They blame Bush for Al Qaeda attacks, then cry when some friggin' terrorist is held for questioning.
The whole thing is crazy.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
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What one would think, I used to hope, is that US citizens see clearly what is and is not a threat to our national security.
The fact that tidbit after tidbit seeps out to try and ausage people who will NEVER admit enforcing the UN resolutions was the right thing to do is mere trivia. Bush could be standing there to this day slathering on piece after piece and it wouldn't matter.
Will ANYONE honestly be suprised to find, once time has allowed history to write the full story of Hussiens Iraq, that he did help hurt the United States of America? That he was an active threat to our national security?
Will you really be shocked to find he did help plot and help plan the 9/11 attacks and had, let's say, witnesses executed to help cover it up?
The modern left acts like we invaded Canada out of the clear blue sky.
What one would think, I used to hope, is that US citizens see clearly what is and is not a threat to our national security.
The fact that tidbit after tidbit seeps out to try and ausage people who will NEVER admit enforcing the UN resolutions was the right thing to do is mere trivia. Bush could be standing there to this day slathering on piece after piece and it wouldn't matter.
Will ANYONE honestly be suprised to find, once time has allowed history to write the full story of Hussiens Iraq, that he did help hurt the United States of America? That he was an active threat to our national security?
Will you really be shocked to find he did help plot and help plan the 9/11 attacks and had, let's say, witnesses executed to help cover it up?
The modern left acts like we invaded Canada out of the clear blue sky.
You're full of it. If you were so important, you wouldn't have all the time in the world to sit on these forums talking smack. Admit that you're really an 18 year old "fast food specialist".
For your future reference, that's always the dead giveaway of a bullshit artist. They claim that they're some very important secret agent and THEY know things that NOBODY ELSE does.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
No conspiracy theory here...
...if in your mind, France is equivalent ot Iraq.
And if we don't find out one damn thing more about Iraq than we already knew before we invaded it will still make perfect sense from a national security standpoint.
You ever read, or skim, the IW resolution?
...if in your mind, France is equivalent ot Iraq.
And if we don't find out one damn thing more about Iraq than we already knew before we invaded it will still make perfect sense from a national security standpoint.
You ever read, or skim, the IW resolution?
SmallTown
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Originally posted by vraiblonde
You're full of it. If you were so important, you wouldn't have all the time in the world to sit on these forums talking smack. Admit that you're really an 18 year old "fast food specialist".
For your future reference, that's always the dead giveaway of a bullshit artist. They claim that they're some very important secret agent and THEY know things that NOBODY ELSE does.
I never said I was important, only that my job gives me the chance to explore interesting things.
And as far as knowing something noone else knows, I have no idea what you know so how could I compare? And the things I have been talking about in terms of our intelligence isn't exactly closely guarded TS stuff, it is actualy readily available. Go to barnes and noble and do a search for intelligence and pick off a few to read.
But regardless of your opinion of what I do or what I know, it really doesn't change the fact of what I do or what I know, now does it?
Damn, now not only do you know things about our government that Colin Powell doesn't even know, BUT you can predict the future with alternate endings!
Do you happen to remember why we went to war with Iraq in the first place? And why there WAS a UN resolution and sanctions against Iraq? Or has that been dumped from your cache?
SmallTown
Football season!
Kind of like the republican's touting we are winning the war on terror because we haven't had an attack on American soil in almost 3 years?
The resolution was icing on the cake for Bush.
We went into Iraq because of the (supposedly) threat to the U.S. and the world. So you're saying without the resolution, Iraq would have been less of a threat?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
The IW resolution I am refering to...
...is not the last UN one but the US Congress one, the one we voted on here at home.
I would tend to agree that we would have gone anyway absent that final UN resolution but that would have put a bunch of nations in the uncomfortable position of having blatantly changed their vote after something like 17 other similar resolutions threatening action.
We would not have gone had the US Congress not agreed. At least that is what I believe.
...is not the last UN one but the US Congress one, the one we voted on here at home.
I would tend to agree that we would have gone anyway absent that final UN resolution but that would have put a bunch of nations in the uncomfortable position of having blatantly changed their vote after something like 17 other similar resolutions threatening action.
We would not have gone had the US Congress not agreed. At least that is what I believe.
We're winning the war on terror because we're systematically killing the terrorists and their leaders. Not throwing them in a jail cell and giving them lawyers - killing them. You think 800 is bad? Check out the roll call for Iraq and Afghanistan.
The resolution was both a reason and an excuse. So what? I'll explain it to you in simple terms so maybe you can understand:
The UN is this weirdo permissive parent who says, "If you don't stop acting like that, you're not getting any ice cream." Then they say, "If you do stop, I'll buy you a new toy!" When the kid doesn't stop, they still get the toy and the ice cream.
Unfortunately that kid started threatening the neighbors, who then complained to the parents - "Make your kid knock it off." The parents said, "Well, we've asked him to stop but he won't." So the neighbor said, "Fine, I'll make him stop" and picked the kid up and whipped his ass for him.
"You can't hit MY kid!" screams the outraged parents.
So your question was really "If parents don't tell a kid to behave himself, does that mean the kid's not a destructive brat?" And the answer is no - the kid is still a destructive brat and the neighbors have a right to live in peace without this hoodlum threatening them.
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czygvtwkr
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Vrai Love the analogy, but I think the UN is even less effective than that parent.
donbarzini
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More like the grandparent who thinks the kid DOES no wrong.