Russian Intellegence led to Iraq War

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czygvtwkr

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Originally posted by SmallTown
And the terrorist organizations are also growing

Do you know that for sure, or are you just speculating because they are more visiable now?

Remember before 2001 we thought Al Quada was pretty small, we then realized how deep it went.

I think we are finally begining to see the entire iceberg.
 

SmallTown

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Originally posted by czygvtwkr
Do you know that for sure, or are you just speculating because they are more visiable now?

Remember before 2001 we thought Al Quada was pretty small, we then realized how deep it went.

I think we are finally begining to see the entire iceberg.

We never felt they were that small. We did think they were pretty much isolated instead of all over the world.

And do I know they are growing for sure? Nothing is certain when you're talking about terror groups, but plenty of statements have been made regarding the growth of terror groups in recent months
 
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czygvtwkr

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Before 2001 Tens of Thousands went through the terrorist training camps in Afganistan. I think we have pretty much shut down the training camps world wide, are these new terrorists untrained?
 

SmallTown

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Originally posted by czygvtwkr
Before 2001 Tens of Thousands went through the terrorist training camps in Afganistan. I think we have pretty much shut down the training camps world wide, are these new terrorists untrained?

http://www.msnbc.com/news/996291.asp?cp1=1
Those camps were just the start. Now those some 18000 people who went through the camps are out "speading the knowledge" to others who support their ideas.



“You don’t need a lot of money for most of what we are seeing now,” one official said.

“Many of these cells don’t appear to be very well-funded, but what is more important than money is human capital. And human capital doesn’t seem to be in short supply.”

" Michael Pillsbury, a Pentagon terrorism consultant, argued that the evolution of the terrorist groups is analogous to a process of corporate merger and acquisition. At a terrorism conference earlier this year at St. Andrews College, Pillsbury said regionally-focused terrorism groups with their own particular agendas join with al Qaeda to learn their operational techniques or benefit from their contacts, but are not subordinate to al Qaeda."
 
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czygvtwkr

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What I get from this article is that some 20000 people that went through the camps in the 90's are a very major part of the attacks are occuring now, and the success that Al Quada had brought the thought of other organizations using such tactics into their minds. Its like an insect population, one can breed many and so forth, in a couple generations there are thousands from one.

We should have destroyed the camps in the 90's and nipped it in the bud. I can't blame anyone because no body could fathom that they would be succesful at much of anything.
 

Christy

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Originally posted by SmallTown
We never felt they were that small. We did think they were pretty much isolated instead of all over the world.

:bs: We've known they've been worldwide for decades. We've known they were here in this country, we've known they were established in almost every country. The difference between now and "then", is that we're finally going after them since pretending they don't exist obviously doesn't work. :duh:
 

SmallTown

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Originally posted by Christy
:bs: We've known they've been worldwide for decades. We've known they were here in this country, we've known they were established in almost every country. The difference between now and "then", is that we're finally going after them since pretending they don't exist obviously doesn't work. :duh:

Depends on what you mean by "worldwide". Yes, we knew the the idealogy associated with al-qaida was around the world, but in terms of actively plotting terror we had them isolated to parts of the middle east and asia. It wasn't until we actively started to trace their money and travel that we found out just how widespread and active they are throughout the entire world.
 

Christy

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Originally posted by SmallTown
Depends on what you mean by "worldwide". Yes, we knew the the idealogy associated with al-qaida was around the world, but in terms of actively plotting terror we had them isolated to parts of the middle east and asia. It wasn't until we actively started to trace their money and travel that we found out just how widespread and active they are throughout the entire world.

I forgot. :duh: You're "in the know". :duh:
 

Hessian

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Back to the Russians...

The Russian motivation for the tip...opens a Labrynth of questions:
a) Are they trying to shore up GWB because they picture Kerry as a wimp who is so totally unpredictable that they would have to rewrite their entire foreign policy???

b) Are they trying to get brownie points before a major offensive against the Chechyans...thus making sure our criticism is muted?

c) Do they want to open up new contracts with the new Iraq govt?...considering many of their operatives were hustled out last April?

d) Has Russia been taking the heat lately for shifting toward a stronger Regime and wants to let Bush know that Putin is still an "Ally?" (...who would rather let the US economy absorb the world's police work than exposing Russian weaknesses.)
 

SmallTown

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Re: Back to the Russians...

Originally posted by Hessian
The Russian motivation for the tip...opens a Labrynth of questions:
a) Are they trying to shore up GWB because they picture Kerry as a wimp who is so totally unpredictable that they would have to rewrite their entire foreign policy???

b) Are they trying to get brownie points before a major offensive against the Chechyans...thus making sure our criticism is muted?

c) Do they want to open up new contracts with the new Iraq govt?...considering many of their operatives were hustled out last April?

d) Has Russia been taking the heat lately for shifting toward a stronger Regime and wants to let Bush know that Putin is still an "Ally?" (...who would rather let the US economy absorb the world's police work than exposing Russian weaknesses.)

Maybe he's running low on Vodka and wants us to send him some 10oz buds? :shrug:
 
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