Scientists Harvest Stem Cells Without Destroying Embryo

[Bustem' Down]

WEDNESDAY, Aug. 23 (HealthDay News) -- In what could prove to be a medical milestone, researchers have succeeded in generating new lines of human embryonic stem cells without destroying the embryo.

The breakthrough may enable scientists to circumvent the ban on federal funding of stem cell research, paving the way for gains in treating or curing diseases such as diabetes, spinal injury and Alzheimer's disease.

Pretty cool stuff.

 

[forever jewel]

That's great news!!! Hopefully this discovery will soothe some of the fears of those individuals weary of the research process

 

[vraiblonde]

Embryonic experimentation is gruesome and disgusting. I am against it, period.

 

[kom526]

I hope they are successful in this endeavor. I think this type of research can be extremely beneficial. What I'm wondering is will this breakthrough in cell research change the gov't or church's (RC) position?

 

[Tonio]

While I also question the morality of using embryonic stem cells, I think Mitch Albom has a legitimate point:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060723/NEWS05/607230610/1082

"This bill would support the taking of innocent human life ..." Bush said. "Each of these human embryos is a unique human life with inherent dignity and matchless value."

OK. If Bush believes that, why isn't he closing down every fertility clinic in America right now? Almost any woman who goes in for fertility treatments ends up producing more embryos than are implanted.

In my view, the best solution would be finding a way of using adult stem cells from umbilical cord blood to give the same benefits as embryonic stem cells. There is some research into that, but it hasn't yet been successful.

 

[vraiblonde]

There is some research into that, but it hasn't yet been successful.

That's because the baby-killers have got it in their heads that they want to experiment on human embryos and nothing else will do.

I don't necessarily agree with Bush's particular take on embryonic research, but I would outlaw it in all its forms tomorrow if I were President. We already, as a society, have such low regard for our children and human life in general - abortion, child abuse, pedophilia. Why perpetuate it?

 

[SamSpade]

This approach however, apparently is already used in in vitro work to determine whether or not the embryo has genetic defects. It does not harm the embryon any more than taking a culture or biopsy from a human being.

 

[forever jewel]

Embryonic experimentation is gruesome and disgusting. I am against it, period.

Well that's your opinion.

 

[Toxick]

We already, as a society, have such low regard for our children and human life in general - abortion, child abuse, pedophilia. Why perpetuate it?

Aren't you a self-described "pro-abortionist"?
Not just pro-choice, but pro-abortion?



Or did I miss the sarcasm in the posts where I read that.

 

[Toxick]

What I'm wondering is will this breakthrough in cell research change the gov't or church's (RC) position?

I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[vraiblonde]

Aren't you a self-described "pro-abortionist"?
Not just pro-choice, but pro-abortion?

Indeedy. If low-rent losers want to exterminate their spawn, who am I to stand in their way? Their kids would just grow up to be predators and welfare recipients anyway. I consider abortion a crime prevention method.

Unfortunately, because we have fostered a low regard for children and human life in this country and we do not value personal responsibility anymore (in fact, we actively discourage it), abortion is the only solution to the problem.

Had we shut down the hippies and Leftists in the 60s and told them that, sorry, free and unfettered sex and drug use are NOT American ideals, maybe things could be different now.

But alas... :shrug:

 

[Toxick]

Unfortunately, because we have fostered a low regard for children and human life in this country and we do not value personal responsibility anymore (in fact, we actively discourage it), abortion is the only solution to the problem.

That sound very much like saying: There is a raging fire and dousing it with napalm is the only solution to the problem.

 

[MMDad]

That sound very much like saying: There is a raging fire and dousing it with napalm is the only solution to the problem.

Fight fire with fire. It's how they put out forest fires.

 

[Toxick]

Fight fire with fire. It's how they put out forest fires.

 

[Midnightrider]

Indeedy. If low-rent losers want to exterminate their spawn, who am I to stand in their way? Their kids would just grow up to be predators and welfare recipients anyway. I consider abortion a crime prevention method.

Unfortunately, because we have fostered a low regard for children and human life in this country and we do not value personal responsibility anymore (in fact, we actively discourage it), abortion is the only solution to the problem.

Had we shut down the hippies and Leftists in the 60s and told them that, sorry, free and unfettered sex and drug use are NOT American ideals, maybe things could be different now.

But alas... :shrug:

Now there is a thoroughly enlightened view right there!!!
and not the lest bit contradictory

 

[MMDad]

Nope, I get your point, but I think Vrai is right.Welfare entitlement has become so ingrained in some parts of society that it's almost inherited. If my tax dollars fund an abortion in order to avoid feeding, clothing, and housing that person for 70 years, that's money well spent.

It is like using napalm to put out a fire, but that's not a problem to me.

 

[hvp05]

Fight fire with fire. It's how they put out forest fires.

Then we should be going into crime and drug-ridden neighborhoods and proactively giving them abortions or sterilizing them, instead of passively waiting for them to take their own action. Or am over-extending your analogy?

 

[vraiblonde]

Now there is a thoroughly enlightened view right there!!!
and not the lest bit contradictory

Let's break that down:

You do not like me insulting something that you are in favor of killing.

Correct?

 

[MMDad]

Then we should be going into crime and drug-ridden neighborhoods and proactively giving them abortions or sterilizing them, instead of passively waiting for them to take their own action. Or am over-extending your analogy?

I wouldn't have a problem with that, but I suspect it would be a hard sell. As far as I'm concerned, no birth control = no welfare check.

 

[vraiblonde]

Then we should be going into crime and drug-ridden neighborhoods and proactively giving them abortions or sterilizing them, instead of passively waiting for them to take their own action. Or am over-extending your analogy?

Democrats won't go for that because that's the majority of their voting bloc. Why do you think they reward them with welfare money for procreating? They gotta make up the numbers they lose to abortion.

As a Republican, I get nothing out of these people, so that would be fine with me. :shrug: