LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
Very well. I'll mark you down as coward.
The floor is yours champ. Anytime you want it.
Who is forcing you to have a mobile device? Let's start there. Go.
Secret Court allows NSA to continue bulk data collection
- Thread starter Chris0nllyn
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Very well. I'll mark you down as coward.
The floor is yours champ. Anytime you want it.
Who is forcing you to have a mobile device? Let's start there. Go.
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
You know what I think? I think you're yella.
Punk.
Someone quote this so the coward and the phony can see it.
How's that?
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
That's real creative champ.
Shall I take that to mean you're as dumb as PsyOps? That's a rhetorical question.
This_person
Well-Known Member
Are you seriously threatening someone with physical violence over an internet forum disagreement?
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
That wasn't even close to what I said.
littlelady
God bless the USA
Just remember, LB, wants forum members to die in a fire. This is why I don't take him seriously. He wants to act all intellectual, but stoops to under the gutter lows. And, he started out so great here. Oh well.
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
littlelady
God bless the USA
Nope. Just you.
MamaKooKoo doesn't take me seriously.
She always took you seriously. MamaKooKoo is gone. You are definitely a piece of work. Carry on!
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
I would still like to know how a "Secret Court" was set up in America.
Where in our laws does it say anyone can set up a "Secret Court"
What is it's justification? What does it rule on? Is all of that a secret too?
Does it truly exist?
Where is tilted on this . Or was it a secret to him too?
Where in our laws does it say anyone can set up a "Secret Court"
What is it's justification? What does it rule on? Is all of that a secret too?
Does it truly exist?
Where is tilted on this . Or was it a secret to him too?
Chris0nllyn
Well-Known Member
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Ggeorge sure F**Ked up on that one didn't he?
And some people want to elect his brother.
PsyOps
Pixelated
This doesn't happen without a cooperative people. There just hasn't been enough outrage over it. We're seeing it right here in this forum. Folks justify it by asking "do you have anything to hide" or "can you name one person that has been impacted by the data collection" or "they aren't collecting your conversations" or "you signed an agreement...".
My whole argument is the government shouldn't have the authority to collect this information at will, no matter how benign, doesn't matter if it has affected me at this point, doesn't matter if I have nothing to hide, doesn't matter if I signed some BS agreement with my provider. It's NOT their information. All you need is someone with nefarious intentions to get their hands on this so-called 'metadata' and anyone of you could be a target.
And for the record LB... My job requires I have a cell phone.
Could you tell me the name of someone who you know had their metadata spied on by the NSA?
Lurk
Happy Creepy Ass Cracka
Isn't this a lot like using the US Postal Service in decades past? We put a stamp on an envelope onto which we affix the name and address where the envelope and its contents are expected to end up. Ideally we have also placed our return address and possibly our name to the envelope. Once the envelope and its contents are placed in the postal service's custody we expect the stamp to be defaced so as to be unusable again and the envelope (and contents) to be transported. Other stamps and messages are affixed to this envelope on occasion and I'm sure the postal service documents the passage of said envelope at certain gates. We are assured the envelope is not opened or violated during the process until the envelope (and contents) reach the destination. Somewhere someone has made note of the passage of our envelope through their hands. Now it's noted by computers which read the identifying informaton and QC code on the stamp. Once it becomes computerized, it is easily archived, analyzed and assessed.
PsyOps
Pixelated
See... justifying this because we can't show anyone that has been affected by this. For decades the IRS just collected our taxes and granted tax-exemption for non-profits. Then suddenly someone in our government said "Hey... we have this very powerful agency that collects this information that we can use to go after our political enemies. Let's get some sympathizers to punish our enemies." Knowing we already have people in our government willing to use an agency that collects our 'private' information against us, how can you ever trust that it won't happen through another agency through the collection of our 'private' information?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
No, we did. We stood by, cheering, wearing our lapel pins, sneering at the 'unpatriotic' D's and chanting "USA!"
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
In truth I don't believe any of us understood the unintended consequences of the act, any more that the unintended consequences of the ACA, or maybe the consequences were understood by some , but not the general public.
Either way it should be stopped Both the Patriot act and the ACA.
PsyOps
Pixelated
I agree... at the time we had no clue what was going on when passing the PA. But now we do, and there is no real outrage over it. The ACA is just proof that the people aren't interested in reigning in big intrusive government. Folks seem to want more of it.