Secret Service failure - someone explain this to me
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WingsOfGold
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Well the faux dr is good buddies with the director.......... smell a rat yet?
gemma_rae
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I would expect nothing less.
Well, It used to be that I would expect nothing less. These days when you have a multi-agency effort you can never underestimate the incompetence.
WingsOfGold
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Isn't it time some long retired politicians lose their ss protection? GW and Bubba for starters. They were president how long ago? Are they not filthy rich to begin with? That would free up a lot of resources.
Sneakers
Just sneakin' around....
Well, I can see where having everyone on the same freq would just be sensory overload, and having to listen to information that does not pertain to your working group. Having a radio with the ability to monitor 2-3 frequencies, your own local group and a group priority channel, would be far more workable. Yes, issues with that too, like making sure in the heat of the moment you're on the right transmitting freq, or it's worthless.
Listening to some of the former close protectors during their interviews they have all said the same. It is SOP that once a threat is detected (and reported) you do not let the protectee continue out into harm's way.
Now, did the close protection detail get the word? If not, why not?
I would say no and having their own security would be out of the intel loop.
Sneakers
Just sneakin' around....
Now that this old brain kicked in.... I used to use exactly this scenario back in the 80s, back in the days of heavy Flight Test of F-14, EA-6B, etc.... I worked in the ground station as a telemetry engineer. We had an intercom frequency assigned to us. The Instrumentation group (responsible for the plane sensors and data links) had their own channel, as did the flight test engineers, antenna receiving station, and on and on. We had as many as 40 people all listening in. With dual headsets, we would communicate with our own group and listen in on another. If needed, we could switch intercoms and directly contact one of the other groups while still monitoring our own group. That was back in the 80s with analog radio systems.
Shoot, NASCAR couldn't exist without this capability.
Our radios at the resort I worked at had multiple frequencies and could tap into the team or just one person. I'm guessing if some pissant vacation resort can do it, certainly the SS and police can.
Hijinx
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Yes: But your radios cannot get into the police frequencies., and theirs cannot get into yours.
Tech
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Been saying this since day one. Who was the agent who stated the roof was too slanted, did not secure weak spots, failed to ensure posts were manned. A d warn the protection detail of the alert?
Tech
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That's what those big communication vans are for.
TPD
the poor dad
If I am the protectee - Trump or his family - until I have a plan B in place, of course I am going to say they did a great job. If I start bashing them now while they are still responsible for my life, the next attempt will be successful.
LightRoasted
If I may ...
For your consideration ...
Just an FYI. The protected person is referred to as the "principle".
Just an FYI. The protected person is referred to as the "principle".
glhs837
Power with Control
Yep, with an agent assigned to each channel(snipers, perimeter, close detail, overwatch, local resources, etc) all reporting back to whomever has comm oversight, the "big picture" person.
Is that van one of the requested assets they have now fessed up to not providing? Like overwatch, a thing they simply didn't have?
StmarysCity79
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They also allowed the moron to repeatedly ask for his slip on shoes that he had fallen out of back and stopped long enough to retrieve them.
That should have been the last of their concern in a moment like this.
Also allowing him to stand up unblocked with a raised fist?
This is amateur level stuff.
That should have been the last of their concern in a moment like this.
Also allowing him to stand up unblocked with a raised fist?
This is amateur level stuff.