http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3304614,00.html
Why? The Religion of Peace surely wouldn't do anything bad, would they?
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Why? The Religion of Peace surely wouldn't do anything bad, would they?
http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w091615A.xml.html
So they respond to the Pope obliquely suggesting they're violent by...firebombing churches.
Kain? Any comment on this?
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slaphappynmd
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ylexot said:Christians are worse :shrug:
Yeah, those crazy bible thumpers, sheesh!
bdh802
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slaphappynmd said:Yeah, those crazy bible thumpers, sheesh!
Whether you are Catholic, Protestant, or whatever, it would be interesting to see if someone actually sides with the Muslims on this. I would hope not!
The Muslims seem to be making a habit of being "offended." The world should be getting really tired of this crap. I know I am.
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slaphappynmd
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I will never understand how religion gets dragged into war, other than the fact that people need a reason to justify the wrong doing they are commiting.
Fubar
Look my ass glows!
If you actually read his comments he was being quite reasonable, saying "you cannot spread faith by the sword". Why should the Pope or anyone else for that matter apologize? Those people's minds were already made up before he even spoke. They hate him and they hate Christians. The Muslim community's reaction reinforces the notion that they are very intolerant of other cultures and religions.
Larry Gude
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You must be joking...
...surely you are joking.
The history of religion IS war. Is there any more common way of identifying who is on what side than religion? Is there any more common basis for war than religion?
Good God.
slaphappynmd said:
...surely you are joking.
The history of religion IS war. Is there any more common way of identifying who is on what side than religion? Is there any more common basis for war than religion?
Good God.
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slaphappynmd
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Larry Gude said:
ok so I'm stupid, oh well, im not as old as you, I don't know everything under the sun. So religion is just a way for control hungry people to gain the control of the weakminded and use them as pawns in a war for their own power. Are you saying religion is just a crock of sh*t? That it was just created to justify killing another person?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
No offense was intended...
...and age has nothing to do with reading history books or paying attention in school and I don't know everything under the sun.
Man started killing one another long before there were any religions as we understand them and we have often found other reasons to kill one another besides religion; economics being a good one.
Man has always been interested in knowledge and religion has served pretty well to cover explaining things as science and reason grew. Over time, some religions had grown so large, they survived. Most of the modern, western world has long since moved past religion being a foundation for violence and graduated to more reasonable things to kill over, like money.
Islam has not yet moved past religion being a good reason to kill.
So, no, religion was not created to justify killing. It was created to justify and support what a given group had figured out about how life worked.
And no, I don't think survival and prosperity are a crock.
slaphappynmd said:
...and age has nothing to do with reading history books or paying attention in school and I don't know everything under the sun.
Man started killing one another long before there were any religions as we understand them and we have often found other reasons to kill one another besides religion; economics being a good one.
Man has always been interested in knowledge and religion has served pretty well to cover explaining things as science and reason grew. Over time, some religions had grown so large, they survived. Most of the modern, western world has long since moved past religion being a foundation for violence and graduated to more reasonable things to kill over, like money.
Islam has not yet moved past religion being a good reason to kill.
So, no, religion was not created to justify killing. It was created to justify and support what a given group had figured out about how life worked.
And no, I don't think survival and prosperity are a crock.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Fightin' words...
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=46474
Actually a pretty educational, thoughtful speech.
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=46474
Actually a pretty educational, thoughtful speech.
Larry Gude said:
It is extremely well worded and it is clearly obvious that the Pope is a highly educated man or has a higher power motivating his words (or both). Now after reading this speech in it entirety, it is abundantly clear that an over zealous media took sections out of contents to stir up public animosity. Something that is highly dangerous when dealing with matters of religion.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Hold up...
...the days of blaming the media for how people react to what they, the media, say are OVER. Anyone who has decided to threaten violence on a religious basis over this discussion about the role of violence in religion is a, violent, b. not familiar with the word 'irony' and, c, to stupid to be in a position of saying crap about it.
No one, NO ONE can be excused for going with what the media said or how it was presented. We live in the information age and this information was readily available.
Just because the media doesn't report it doesn't mean the facts AND context aren't available anymore.
Pandora said:
...the days of blaming the media for how people react to what they, the media, say are OVER. Anyone who has decided to threaten violence on a religious basis over this discussion about the role of violence in religion is a, violent, b. not familiar with the word 'irony' and, c, to stupid to be in a position of saying crap about it.
No one, NO ONE can be excused for going with what the media said or how it was presented. We live in the information age and this information was readily available.
Just because the media doesn't report it doesn't mean the facts AND context aren't available anymore.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
See, you don't understand...
...how this works, do you?
Islam does not preach or teach violence. It teaches Gods will. This nun was murdered not because of Islam, but because God willed it.
What is so difficult about this?
itsbob said:
...how this works, do you?
Islam does not preach or teach violence. It teaches Gods will. This nun was murdered not because of Islam, but because God willed it.
What is so difficult about this?
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Bronwyn
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bdh802 said:
I'm offended that they have cut peoples heads off! I'm offended that they blow themselves up at the market, killing innocent people. I'm offended that they killed nearly 3000 innocent americans on 9/11
Isn't that convenient?Larry Gude said:
