Security Concerns at Kindercare

[Daddy-man]

Security Concerns at Daycares (Kindercare)

Recently a hotel has been built next to the Kinder-care at Marshalee Drive.

Sex Offenders are not required to register when residing at hotels.

And there have been several robberies at the gas station adjacent to the day care.

As a result, several parents have voiced concern and requested security cams be placed at the entrance/exits to this building.

• active deterrent (people behave better under an objective watchful eye)
• in the event there is an issue subjective descriptions are never accurate
• reduces liablilties issues and thereby insurance rates.

• sex offenders do not have to register when staying at hotels
• major crimes across street
• past history at another kindercare of inadequate security leading to a child abduction.

This was initially met with positive results until it was handed off to corporate office in Oregon where they told parents it was against company policy, but would not produce proof of this policy.

The Knowledge Learning Corporation seems to have dug their heels in refusing to install or even expalin why they won't install them. As a note security cams only cost $1000.00 fully installed.

They are a very litigious corporation and we don't want them trying to sue the parents concerned.

Anybody have suggestions as to get them to move forward on this?

 

[USWWarrior]

Yes, Take your business elsewhere. When enough of the customers leave and the profit margin has decreased, corporate will either close or make improvements.

What I would not suggest is waiting until something bad happens.

 

[huntr1]

Yes, Take your business elsewhere. When enough of the customers leave and the profit margin has decreased, corporate will either close or make improvements.

What I would not suggest is waiting until something bad happens.

Money talks, take a walk.

 

[Daddy-man]

Money talks, take a walk.

Trying to, but not many good day cares out there, and this one is good.

It is the foolish corporate types trying to cover their behinds rather than worry about the children.

Your Courts, Their Secrets | KinderCare battled every step of the way | Seattle Times Newspaper

Open to day care suggestions as well.

 

[huntr1]

Trying to, but not many good day cares out there, and this one is good.

It is the foolish corporate types trying to cover their behinds rather than worry about the children.

Your Courts, Their Secrets | KinderCare battled every step of the way | Seattle Times Newspaper

Open to day care suggestions as well.

Lots of good home based day care places around. :shrug:

 

[daisy]

Trying to, but not many good day cares out there, and this one is good.

It is the foolish corporate types trying to cover their behinds rather than worry about the children.

Your Courts, Their Secrets | KinderCare battled every step of the way | Seattle Times Newspaper

Open to day care suggestions as well.

Leave. You can find just as good of care elsewhere. They could teach my 2 year old to read, write, and behave immaculently (sp?) but if they can't take preventative maintenance to keep her from being seriously in danger, none of that is worth anything.

 

[DanceMom]

Nothing is more important than the safety, health and welfare of your child(ren). If you have one inkling that your child may be at risk, take the day off work and stay home with them until you find adequate care. No daycare is worth fighting to protect your most precious gift. If they resist change in favor of your child then leave. I myself do not trust anyone I am not confident with to care, teach or be around my children. They come first.

 

[crabby.patty]

Get togther with the rest of the parents that are concerned and threaten to leave. Then actively look for new daycare for your child(ren).

In my experience nothing gets their attention like threatening to pull your child if they don't make the changes that you feel are necessary for your childs well being. Many daycares get business through word of mouth and if a lot of kids are leaving due to security concerns that will eventually come out.

 

[Daddy-man]

Looking

Thanks,

I and many others are looking into other day cares. The hotel is not finished at the moment, but will be soon. And given its proximity the rooms can look directly onto the playground and into the rooms. Personally I think it should have never been allowed to be built, and as a benefit to future day cares and parents plan to look into zoning laws (and or changing them if possible).

 

[huntr1]

Thanks,

I and many others are looking into other day cares. The hotel is not finished at the moment, but will be soon. And given its proximity the rooms can look directly onto the playground and into the rooms. Personally I think it should have never been allowed to be built, and as a benefit to future day cares and parents plan to look into zoning laws (and or changing them if possible).

It is absurd to believe that a hotel should be prohibited from being built because the property next door is a day care.

 

[Gwydion]

It is absurd to believe that a hotel should be prohibited from being built because the property next door is a day care.

Finally somebody with a lick of sense.

 

[CalvertNewbie]

It is absurd to believe that a hotel should be prohibited from being built because the property next door is a day care.

Yeah, I also doubt that idea will ever become a reality. The area is zoned for business use, which includes hotels. What doesn't make any sense is that these perverts don't have to register a hotel as their address if that's where they are residing.

Is there any reason to believe that this particular hotel being built is going to be called home for the area perverts? I know that certain motels are known to house section 8 crackheads and various types of offenders, basically they are sleeze motels for people who are trash. Is there any indication that this hotel will be used for that purpose? If so, I would get my children out of there quickly. I agree with pushing them to intall security cameras regardless. If they are that opposed to installing the cameras, I'd have to wonder why.

 

[Daddy-man]

Sorry, what I meant with zoning laws is:

that better security measures should be required when public buildings are built within a certain proximity to day cares or schools.

So, in the event that X business is built near a facility the school should have to modify it's security and may require the new business to pay or absorb part of the cost of those changes.

 

[Daddy-man]

Replacement Schools to Kinder Care

Just spoke to the person spear-heading our complaints about this problem with Kinder Care corporate. I guess they don't understand that we picked him because he doesn't give up.

It turns out that Kinder-Care is in deep financial trouble and have been in bankruptcy once before. Seems they are trying to recoup by selling there own buildings and then leasing them back to themselves after defaulting on a $3 million dollar a week bank note. No wonder why they are fighting this. They are so cheap that they are worried about the financial here.

Oh well--will keep you posted. In the meantime I will keep looking for replacement schools.

 

[myjobismommy]

Just spoke to the person spear-heading our complaints about this problem with Kinder Care corporate. I guess they don't understand that we picked him because he doesn't give up.

It turns out that Kinder-Care is in deep financial trouble and have been in bankruptcy once before. Seems they are trying to recoup by selling there own buildings and then leasing them back to themselves after defaulting on a $3 million dollar a week bank note. No wonder why they are fighting this. They are so cheap that they are worried about the financial here.

Oh well--will keep you posted. In the meantime I will keep looking for replacement schools.

Depending on what county you live in and how old your child is you have many options. If your child is 3 or older you might think about pre-k, some of them have before and after care. Good Luck

 

[Daddy-man]

Yeah Right

It seems to me after hearing the lastest update that the reason they aren't installing cameras is because they are concerned that in the event of a liability issue that the video could be subpoenaed and used against them. So it seems they are more worried about protecting themselves then the children. Good grief....I have spoken to the other parents in our group and we will be pulling our children out as quickly as possible. The hotel is not completed yet.

 

[Jenel]

which Kinder Care location are you talking about. I don't know of any in Waldorf that you are speaking of. I thought we were just talking about the tri county area????

 

[Daddy-man]

Elkridge

We are talking about the one located at Marshalee Drive in Elkridge. It has to be mentioned that the reason we are trying so hard to change things is that it is a great day care and worth resolving if possible. Once the hotel goes "live" then it won't matter without the added security, and I myself will remove my child regardless of wether I have found a replacement day care or not. It's just not worth the risk. It seems crime goes up almost immediately when a hotel goes up in an area. Add the fact that sex offenders are not required to register at them and you have a recipe for problems.

 

[Pinkie]

We are talking about the one located at Marshalee Drive in Elkridge. It has to be mentioned that the reason we are trying so hard to change things is that it is a great day care and worth resolving if possible. Once the hotel goes "live" then it won't matter without the added security, and I myself will remove my child regardless of wether I have found a replacement day care or not. It's just not worth the risk. It seems crime goes up almost immediately when a hotel goes up in an area. Add the fact that sex offenders are not required to register at them and you have a recipe for problems.

Thanks for your information. We were thinking about putting our baby at that location, but based on the premise that so large a company won't spend so little money on such an easy safety measure and that they won't even give reasons why they wont install it we have decided to go with Columbia Academy. To be fair that was not the only reason, but the factor that tipped the scale. Maybe with more people removing their children from day care due to rising costs they will realize they should listen to their customers.

 

[rwethereyet]

We are talking about the one located at Marshalee Drive in Elkridge. It has to be mentioned that the reason we are trying so hard to change things is that it is a great day care and worth resolving if possible. Once the hotel goes "live" then it won't matter without the added security, and I myself will remove my child regardless of wether I have found a replacement day care or not. It's just not worth the risk. It seems crime goes up almost immediately when a hotel goes up in an area. Add the fact that sex offenders are not required to register at them and you have a recipe for problems.

Is Elkridge in SOMD?