Seems near impossible to get an interview without knowing someone (gov't jobs)

[LooseTooth]

I have a GREAT resume with security clearances (more than you will ever need at pax river, or the surrounding area)

Are you saying that you have a higher clearence than anybody else at PAX?

If you're really looking to use your clearence as a meal ticket, try here.

I would suggest the following line of action:

1. Work hard and get the magic piece of paper.
2. Spend a minimal amount of time seeking new employment.
3. Find productive things to do during your commute. Listen to audio books - you could even learna new language...

 

[drkwtsn]

Are you saying that you have a higher clearence than anybody else at PAX?

If you're really looking to use your clearence as a meal ticket, try here.

I would suggest the following line of action:

1. Work hard and get the magic piece of paper.
2. Spend a minimal amount of time seeking new employment.
3. Find productive things to do during your commute. Listen to audio books - you could even learna new language...

I'm saying, that 98% of the cleared jobs at pax do NOT require a lifestyle polygraph.
Two places that I know of do. The CIA, and the NSA.
TS/SCI is a common thing (not as common as secret though) at the base.

 

[LooseTooth]

I'm saying, that 98% of the cleared jobs at pax do NOT require a lifestyle polygraph.

and you are wondering why it is not buying you anything in the way of finding a job here??

I must be confused

life is all about choices - if you REALLY do not want to drive then you can find a job of some sort here...

as an example, I saw Papa John's on Great Mills RD had a 'now hiring' sign up the other day

 

[drkwtsn]

and you are wondering why it is not buying you anything in the way of finding a job here??

I must be confused

life is all about choices - if you REALLY do not want to drive then you can find a job of some sort here...

as an example, I saw Papa John's on Great Mills RD had a 'now hiring' sign up the other day

No what I am wondering is why I never even get calls back for jobs I apply for when I am clearly over qualified for, but would gladly take (I.E tech support, sys admin)... As said in my 1st post, it seems to me you need to know someone to get these positions, as all of the help desk / sys admin positions I have applied for require a high school degree, not a college degree.

I guess every group has a cynical person, you just must be it!

 

[LooseTooth]

Au contraire mon frere!

cyn·ic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (snk)
n.
A person who believes all people are motivated by selfishness.
A person whose outlook is scornfully and often habitually negative.
Cynic A member of a sect of ancient Greek philosophers who believed virtue to be the only good and self-control to be the only means of achieving virtue.

I am innately positive!

You didn't like the idea of learning a new language?

In all honesty - just having some fun, best of luck to you and yours...

 

[tikipirate]

I have been applying all around the SOMD area and it seems near impossible to me to get a call back about a job unless you know someone... I have a GREAT resume with security clearances (more than you will ever need at pax river, or the surrounding area) and about 90 college credits (Yes, I am still in college).

On so many levels, you are just an idiot. How did you get the clnc with so little college? You got a shooter clnc! BFD.

 

[tikipirate]

A TS/SCI with lifestyle polygraph is very difficult to get. Companies really don't want to invest money in people who arent guranteed to get it... and it used to mean instant job, whether or not you have the skills to do it or not... they would train you for the job, just beause of the clearance.

"I have a GREAT resume with security clearances (more than you will ever need at pax river, or the surrounding area)"

So what is it, dickface? Remember that almost everyone here has the clnc that you say is *so very difficult* to get. Boo-hoo #####! We all know that a 'TS/SCI with lifestyle polygraph' means that you want to get the ++ clnc but either like smoking or like to suck #### too much to pass the poly.

Don't game us, don't game USG, and don't game yourself.

 

[snuzzy]

Being "over qualified" may be your problem. You see it as an asset, as an employer, I hated to go through the hiring process and looked for employees who were likely to stay in a position. Being over qualified and working on your degree says to me 1) You don't want this position and will be moving on a.s.a.p. and I will have to go through the whole process again, soon 2) You are not committed to the job and as soon as you have a final to study for, etc, your attendance will be poor. Also, when I have interviewed people who felt they were above the position that they were applying for, their attitude was that "this job is beneath me" and it affects the workplace/personality dynamics in a negative way. Stop looking at this from your point of view, and try matching what you have to offer to whatr an employer's needs might be. JMO Good Luck!

 

[Chasey_Lane]

Don't game us, don't game USG, and don't game yourself.

Me thinks you might be put in time out for your language if you don't zip it.

 

[crabcake]

No what I am wondering is why I never even get calls back for jobs I apply for when I am clearly over qualified for, but would gladly take (I.E tech support, sys admin)... As said in my 1st post, it seems to me you need to know someone to get these positions, as all of the help desk / sys admin positions I have applied for require a high school degree, not a college degree.

You answered your own question. :shrug:

Companies sometimes won't hire someone over-qualified for a job b/c they know/think the person won't stick around long because they'll be bored, won't be challenged to excel, etc. They want someone who will grow and stay with the company. Hiring people isn't cheap ... they don't want to get you in the door, have you find something better 2 months later, and be back to square one. If I had a choice between someone over-qualified and someone who -- if I hired them -- the position was a growth opportunity for them, I'd go with the latter, too. :shrug:

 

[BS Gal]

Being "over qualified" may be your problem. You see it as an asset, as an employer, I hated to go through the hiring process and looked for employees who were likely to stay in a position. Being over qualified and working on your degree says to me 1) You don't want this position and will be moving on a.s.a.p. and I will have to go through the whole process again, soon 2) You are not committed to the job and as soon as you have a final to study for, etc, your attendance will be poor. Also, when I have interviewed people who felt they were above the position that they were applying for, their attitude was that "this job is beneath me" and it affects the workplace/personality dynamics in a negative way. Stop looking at this from your point of view, and try matching what you have to offer to whatr an employer's needs might be. JMO Good Luck!

This is soooo true.

 

[Kerad]

I got my job (@ Andrews, thru DynCorp) only beacause an ex-supervisor of mine in the USAF sent out emails notifying us about it.

Many of these jobs are filled thru in-house references and connections. However...Vetjobs.com, and many others (do a google search for Security clearance jobs) do what they can.

Also...you may have more luck finding jobs from the websites of said companies themselves: Lockheed, DynCorp, General Dynamics, Haliburton, etc...

Most of them don't advertise outside their own sites.

My $.02

good luck!

 

[Lokiskoll]

No what I am wondering is why I never even get calls back for jobs I apply for when I am clearly over qualified for, but would gladly take (I.E tech support, sys admin)... As said in my 1st post, it seems to me you need to know someone to get these positions, as all of the help desk / sys admin positions I have applied for require a high school degree, not a college degree.
I guess every group has a cynical person, you just must be it!

It's because human resource departments at the respective institutions are not the best mechanism for obtaining employment, nor are they neccessarily concerened with finding the best people, nor is it one of their higher priorities. They also get flooded with spam and resumes.

There are exceptions, but I've found this more or less to be true. You need an "in" at most places unless their recruiters are above average in merit.

I'm assuming you've tried the mass recruiting websites like Monster. They don't neccessarily cater to having a clearance, but have many possibilities including finding a recruiting agent who could work for you.

My advice is to find someone on the inside of the organization, like your potential boss. Cut throught the fat. Inform them of your desire and qualifications. If they want you, they will get you in.

 

[LexiGirl75]

Without a degree, forget it... ..It is mighty tough to get a good tech job around Pax without a degree. Without one, you have to know someone........that's the game, like it or not.

I'm not liking what I am reading. : Can you please elaborate on your sharings above. TIA

 

[LexiGirl75]

Better job? nope
I'd take a job of lesser skill...
My main reason for getting a new job is I currently drive 72 miles each way to work... it's killing me

I remember those days, and you probably have to cross the WW Bridge. Been there, and I live extremely close to the base. Are you already military? I would hope that the young military men and women (under 35) who retire or don't reenlist get first dibs for job openings on the base even if they dont have a degree.

I don't have technical skills, not sure if I want to get them just so I can get one of those high paying jobs right under my house's nose. Yes, I want to be able to continue living the life of a celebrity like I was use to in DC, but at what cost?

I mean, you come down here for the white pickett fence but without the briefcase job you are kind of defeating the purpose. Everyone has been saying that without the "right" career tools getting a high paying job here or one on the base or with the big companies is near impossible. So the only option is to work far, far away just to have a job that will pay you something decent for what skills you have acquired so far.

The thought of networking being the fact of the matter when it comes to applying for a job is wonderful, but not if no one knows you (well enough) who can help you. At this point I am in between what I want to do. I am extremely glad that I didnt make a more drastic move like to some place that didnt even have a place I could commute to for job opportunities.

I plan to go back to school but the thought of choosing a career like engineering and accumilating student loans to fork it freaks me out. At my age that magnitude of debt is not what I want greeting me at the end of four years. Anyone, feeling me? I mean let's keep it real with each other. (please)?