Senator Barack Obama Takes First Step Toward Presidential Bid

Pete

Repete
Sounds to me like someone is starting to believe the rock star hype people are writing about him.
 

Dondi

Dondi
Isn't Obama a bit too green to be running for President? I'm mean this is his first term as Senator. He seemed to bask in the limelight at the Democratic convention as a keynote speaker, no doubt, before he was even elected Senator. And he won the election partly because his Republican opponent, Jack Ryan, dumped out because of sexual allegations. Ryan was replaced that August by Alan Keyes, a former Maryland resident who established Illinois residency with the nomination.

Keyes was not hard to beat. Obama got 70% of the vote.

Seems like he got boosted and praised by the Democrats because the well is a bit dry for good, strong incumbents.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Dondi said:
Isn't Obama a bit too green to be running for President? I'm mean this is his first term as Senator. He seemed to bask in the limelight at the Democratic convention as a keynote speaker, no doubt, before he was even elected Senator. And he won the election partly because his Republican opponent, Jack Ryan, dumped out because of sexual allegations. Ryan was replaced that August by Alan Keyes, a former Maryland resident who established Illinois residency with the nomination.

Keyes was not hard to beat. Obama got 70% of the vote.

Seems like he got boosted and praised by the Democrats because the well is a bit dry for good, strong incumbents.
With Oprah on his side I think he will win, unless he pukes on himself somewhere along the way.

Regardless of what you folks think about experience, I think the last two presidents have shown what experience gets you.
 

vraiblonde

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Dondi said:
Seems like he got boosted and praised by the Democrats because the well is a bit dry for good, strong incumbents.
I figure they like him because he's a young, good-looking black guy. He doesn't have any major scandals or issues that I'm aware of - he's way too new to politics to have too much dirt under his fingernails.

He's a rockstar right now who's believing his own press. I predict he won't make it to the primary - he'll have to bail before he gets that far. But he's been a go-getter in his Senate position, sponsoring all kinds of bills and resolutions (which may not mean a hill of crap, but he's busy and getting his name out there). So give him a few years and he could be a contender.
 

Hessian

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What do you use to sharpen steel?

a steel file or rasp.

Obama is in the running: NOT to win, but to draw the buzz, make the Dem convention speech, and then accept the VP nomination.
Along the way, he MUST play nice with Hillary or whomever the front runner is.
THIS is not Obama's time to win,...he is building name recognition and looking at '12 & '16. He hasn't been to Martha's Vineyard yet, hasn't had the right photo ops...remember: Style over substance for the Dems.

HE is "in the race" just to help sharpen the lead contender...thats all. He is the rasp.
 

SamSpade

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I already don't like a lot of his views; but I'm waiting to reserve any judgment about him until he's been running a while. In the Democratic primaries, it's not uncommon for the first big name out of the box to crash and burn early. Everyone was SO SURE that we'd elect Edmund Muskie or Jerry Brown or Gary Hart or Howard Dean - but it didn't happen.

Obama is riding on a wave of enthusiasm because he's new and largely unknown. There's a novelty factor about him. I don't see it lasting. And I think it's foolish of him to run so early in his career, because by and large the voting public doesn't vote for a guy who loses the first time.

So far, I'm not terribly impressed with his ideas - because he hasn't articulated any. It's the same kind of novelty bluster and pathos that got Jimmy elected. The Democrats had a whole panoply of experienced leaders in '76, but who they nominated was a largely unknown governor from Georgia who promised not to lie. At least Bill Clinton with his sunglasses and saxophone promised to end welfare as we know it and give the middle class a tax cut. Everything I've read so far from Obama seems like hot air.

But I'll give you that he is articulate. He has charisma. What he hasn't seen however, is the brutality of a real campaign. He hasn't had a press ready to rip him to pieces. That's why I'm withholding any judgment on him; if he can stand up under such pressure, we'll see. I probably STILL won't vote for him; and if the Iraq conflict is mostly subsided by '08, he loses, because his number one ace on his side is his stance on the war. If the war should be a minor issue in a year, he loses to Hillary or whoever else is in contention then.
 

SamSpade

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vraiblonde said:
But he's been a go-getter in his Senate position, sponsoring all kinds of bills and resolutions (which may not mean a hill of crap, but he's busy and getting his name out there).

Which says loads more about him than for say, John Kerry, whose bill sponsoring resume was nearly blank.
 
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