Service Dog Kicked Out Of Restaurant

[Bay_Kat]

BURLINGTON, N.J. -
38-year-old disabled Army Veteran Jeff Hall doesn't go anywhere without his dog Cooper. The canine helps him deal with the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder he developed during a peacekeeping mission in the Bosnian Conflict 16 years ago.

On Monday, Veteran's Day, Hall says his dad took him to lunch at Rino's Pizzeria, on Route 130 in Burlington. They ordered a pizza and sat down to eat when the owner called his dad away from the table and allegedly said his pet couldn't be in the restaurant.

Hall says the owner seemed concerned about health department rules governing animals in a restaurant.

Hall says the owner seemed unaware of the protections granted to people using Service Dogs when he asked them to leave the restaurant, which is a federal offense.

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Sounds like the owner needs to learn the rules about service dogs. This kind of stuff irritates me. But, I'm sure he's getting some hate mail right about now.

 

[vraiblonde]

Wow, there's a fun problem:

People who bitch about animals because they have all kinds of deathly allergies, or run of the mill germophobes who really should live in a bubble

vs.

People who have disables and think everyone should have to accommodate them

vs

Government busybody regulators who boss businesses around

When I am Imperial Queen of the Universe it will all be completely up to the business owner to either go, "Yeah, come on in, dude, and you freaking Ungers deal or be on your way," or, "Get yer filthy pooch out of my eating establishment." No government regulation needed.

 

[GWguy]

Along the same lines:

Blind man, service dog kicked off US Airways plane, passengers say | 6abc.com

 

[belvak]

I think there's also the problem of many people thinking of service dogs only as those for the blind. Since this dog was for PTSD, there would be no outward signs identifying the dog as a "service" animal. Definitely a tough call.

 

[nutz]

Wow, there's a fun problem:

People who bitch about animals because they have all kinds of deathly allergies, or run of the mill germophobes who really should live in a bubble

vs.

People who have disables and think everyone should have to accommodate them

vs

Government busybody regulators who boss businesses around

When I am Imperial Queen of the Universe it will all be completely up to the business owner to either go, "Yeah, come on in, dude, and you freaking Ungers deal or be on your way," or, "Get yer filthy pooch out of my eating establishment." No government regulation needed.

But I AM SPECIAL, no matter what is wrong in your little part of the world, MY needs usurp everything else

 

[RoseRed]

Don't service dogs wear some sort of identifying vest?

 

[slotpuppy]

I think there's also the problem of many people thinking of service dogs only as those for the blind. Since this dog was for PTSD, there would be no outward signs identifying the dog as a "service" animal. Definitely a tough call.

I have met a PTSD service dog and she was wearing a red vest that clearly identified her as a PTSD service dog.

 

[KDENISE977]

Maybe a dumb question, but what does a PTSD service dog provide? Sorry if that is offensive, just curious.

 

[luvmygdaughters]

Wow, there's a fun problem:

People who bitch about animals because they have all kinds of deathly allergies, or run of the mill germophobes who really should live in a bubble

vs.

People who have disables and think everyone should have to accommodate them

vs

Government busybody regulators who boss businesses around

When I am Imperial Queen of the Universe it will all be completely up to the business owner to either go, "Yeah, come on in, dude, and you freaking Ungers deal or be on your way," or, "Get yer filthy pooch out of my eating establishment." No government regulation needed.

Can I also suggest your Higness, the same thing for the smoking policy? You know, if you own the business, pay the taxes, pay for your inventory, pay your employee's and the payroll taxes, can it be left up to the owner to make the decision to offer smoking or not, you know, put a sign on the door that says ...Smoking Establishment...Enter at your own risk.

 

[luvmygdaughters]

Maybe a dumb question, but what does a PTSD service dog provide? Sorry if that is offensive, just curious.

Not sure, I saw something on a show about service dogs, it was almost the same situation. THe vet had PTSD but he also had a brain injury that would cause him to have seizures. The dog alerted when he was going to have a seizure. Its amazing how these dogs can be trained to detect that before it happens.

 

[KDENISE977]

Not sure, I saw something on a show about service dogs, it was almost the same situation. THe vet had PTSD but he also had a brain injury that would cause him to have seizures. The dog alerted when he was going to have a seizure. Its amazing how these dogs can be trained to detect that before it happens.

Yes, I have heard of service animals detecting seizures before they actually happend, which to me, is AMAZING !!

(When my Chloe was alive and we lived in Denver, we would visit the retirement homes and elderly folks just LOVED the visits !!)

 

[vraiblonde]

I'm going to go ahead and say what I'm thinking, which will piss a lot of people off (if you can possibly imagine such a thing):

Having a service dog for PTSD is bull####. That's a pet, not a service dog. Service dogs are typically trained for a job and are incredibly focused and well-behaved. Your pet is not.

So here comes this pooch, perhaps acting like an ass and making a disturbance, yet the business owner is federally obligated to allow the dog in the restaurant?

And then there's this:

Hall says he doesn't know what his next step will be.

There should be no "next step". In fact, there shouldn't have been a "first step". He should have packed up his pizza and gone, making a mental note that this place is not dog friendly, instead of alerting the media and siccing the slobbering pitchfork-wielding Twitterverse on this restaurant owner.

I am reflexively biased against anyone who makes a huge stink instead of just doing business somewhere else. A rational person would have asked if the dog could come in before just plopping their ass down and demanding to be accommodated. This guy has had the dog for 16 years and this cannot - CANNOT - be the first time he's run into this problem.

Disabled vets don't get an automatic pass from me because I've known too many of them who weren't aholes and I know they are capable of behaving in a civil manner.

 

[slotpuppy]

Maybe a dumb question, but what does a PTSD service dog provide? Sorry if that is offensive, just curious.

The lady I talked to with the PTSD dog said it was the love and companionship that the dog provided her.

 

[vraiblonde]

Can I also suggest your Higness, the same thing for the smoking policy? You know, if you own the business, pay the taxes, pay for your inventory, pay your employee's and the payroll taxes, can it be left up to the owner to make the decision to offer smoking or not, you know, put a sign on the door that says ...Smoking Establishment...Enter at your own risk.

Psh, that's a given.

I wonder about that: people are so freaked out over smoking, animals, whatever because they're deathly allergic or are just whiny PsITA, so what about killer peanuts? And gluten? And every other fad ailment? Why isn't the government banning those things in restaurants?

 

[vraiblonde]

The lady I talked to with the PTSD dog said it was the love and companionship that the dog provided her.

Well then Apollo is a PTSD dog, and so is pretty much every other dog in the US.

Which is fine with me - I'd ban little kids from restaurants before I'd ban dogs.

 

[Bay_Kat]

Well then Apollo is a PTSD dog, and so is pretty much every other dog in the US.

Which is fine with me - I'd ban little kids from restaurants before I'd ban dogs.

That I agree with.

 

[KDENISE977]

Well then Apollo is a PTSD dog, and so is pretty much every other dog in the US.

Which is fine with me - I'd ban little kids from restaurants before I'd ban dogs.

I've got 2 PTSD dogs I will rent out...


and NO I don't take my 2 year old to restaurants...E-V-E-R

 

[slotpuppy]

Well then Apollo is a PTSD dog, and so is pretty much every other dog in the US.

Which is fine with me - I'd ban little kids from restaurants before I'd ban dogs.

I think there is more involved with the training and function of the PTSD dogs, maybe ICit knows.

 

[GURPS]

you know, put a sign on the door that says

...Smoking Establishment
...Enter at your own risk.

why do you hate your employees

 

[GURPS]

and NO I don't take my 2 year old to restaurants...E-V-E-R

the world thanks you ......