Sex offenders sue to hand out Halloween candy

tom88

Well-Known Member
Dude, it WAS CARROLL County, Illinois, just north of Dekalb. You are looking at the wrong record. I have no convictions in Cook County.

If you are going to be a creep, at least do it right.

I didn't think you would answer my question. If you have nothing to hide why distort the facts?
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
Me too.

In fact the entire "sex-offender" categorization is completely ludicrous and needlessly complex and ambiguous.




Someone who gets drunk and gets caught taking a whiz in a back alley is arrested for "indecent-exposure"... which makes them a "sex-offender". Someone who rapes and murders 3 year old boys is also a "sex-offender".


They should brand "CHILD-MOLESTING-PERVERT" or "RAPIST" on the faces of anyone caught doing that. That would take a lot of ambiguity out of the whole thing, and then parents can be the judge of who gives their children candy.




People who did something stupid once in college and are no danger to society should be left alone to live their lives.
Can't they petition the court to be removed from the registry?
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
Whoaaa....don't yell at me. I was just answering his question. :cds:

I happen to agree that a 21 y.o. and a 17 y.o. should not be considered a sex crime.

I do have to ask, how she was in college at 17? Due to my October birthday, I was always younger than my classmates and I was 17 my senior year of HS. :confused:
Some high school AP classes are taught at colleges, so it's possibly a high school student with classes there.
 

MarieB

New Member
Can't they petition the court to be removed from the registry?


I think it depends upon the state, but from what I've been able to find so far, you must appeal to be removed from the state where you were originally placed on the registry.
 

MarieB

New Member
We would love to move, but since passage of the Adam Walsh Act oin the federal level, there ARE no states that are more "lenient". We've even looked at foreign countries. No where to go.

And it is not stopping "rapists and child molesters" from passing out candy. Not at all. There's nothing stopping them from going to someone else's house or a haunted house amusement or a theme park or wherever. And that's just the 8% of all sex offenders who have been actually caught. You think this law makes you any safer? No. What it does is makes you more vulnerable! It blinds you to the reality that there are many more dangerous people out there. You tell yourself "They're not on the registry; therefore they are safe", when that is simply not true.

And no, the laws WEREN'T the same when we started our family. They changed in the last 4 years. Originally, I would have been off the registry by now. Careful with your assumptions. They changed the law well after the fact, and there is nothing we can do about it.

So, no other choice but to fight these things, tooth and nail, as i AM DOING RIGHT NOW.


You know, I looked into this and most states haven't even adopted the federal mandate and are not in compliance - Illinois being one of them

Reformers: sex offender mandate would hurt Illinois
 

mindy

New Member
I appreciate that, but I have already tried. If you do some research, you will find that, although there may be a process for "re-evaluation" of one's SO registry status, no one has ever successfully used it and ggotten off the registry. NO politician wants to commit political suicide by being the one that let "So-and-so" off the registry.

Also, my problem has not much to do with me passing out candy, but instead iwht my children not feeling ostracized because of a mistake I made long long ago. "The sins of the father shall be visited upon the sons, and their sons..."

Um, sometimes people can get off the registry if they aren't evil #######s. If it was something non violent and a low level crime and its been over a certain amount of years, you can go to court to get off. In some states anyway. And its pretty quietly done, no trumpets and media stories.
 

Father-of-Four

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You know, I looked into this and most states haven't even adopted the federal mandate and are not in compliance - Illinois being one of them

Reformers: sex offender mandate would hurt Illinois

Awesome link, MarieB! Thank you. Did you get a chance to read some of the comments posted below it?

"Does the name Jerry Sandusky ring a bell??? For those of you not familiar he is at the center of the Penn State sex abuse scandal. Make sure you remember what I am about to say if nothing else regarding the pending legislation....Jerry Sandusky was NOT ON ANY SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY. Which is the case in more than 95% of sexual offenses. What about that do you not understand?? More laws....more money being thrown at a failed system is irresponsible. I will go even further in saying, based on current and future bills of this nature, any child or teen who is sexually abused by a person NOT ON any SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY should sue the Illinois State Legislature as well as any other entity involved in this hype for FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY IN THE 1st DEGREE.

You do realize there are over 763,000 men, women and children required to register across the states for everything from urinating in public, streaking, mooning, exposure, sexting, viewing suggestive or abusive images of anyone up to the age of 18, playing doctor, prostitution, false accusations by a soon-to-be ex-wife, ex-girlfriend or angry and immature student, Romeo & Juliet consensual sexual dating relationships, endangering the welfare of a child, rape and many other "crimes." You are weaving a horrible web. Please do the math... 763,000 multiplied by 3 or 4 family members...wives, children, mothers, grandmothers, girlfriends, aunts and other loved ones that are suffering the collateral damage by being harassed, ridiculed, threatened, beaten, wives lose their jobs, asked to leave their church and other organizations, have to move, have signs placed in their yards, have flyers distributed throughout the neighborhood....all because they are trying to provide a support system for someone who has paid their debt to society and wants to work and support their family....that's all. Keep adding more laws and "you" or someone you love will soon be awarded a place on the registry. Education is the key! Use these funds to teach parents, teens and children about sexual safety to include behavior that is appropriate toward them as well as behavior that is appropriate coming from them. Very Important!
Vicki Henry
Women Against Registry dot com





ExtremelyDisgruntled


Take a long look at Ohio over the past 5 years. Re-evaluate ANY and ALL legislation on this topic BEFORE it turns out that same way as it has in Ohio. I will not post any links to any research here, do it yourself so as I can not bias you.
Search these suggestions are based all out of Ohio of course:
Costs of AWA initial and subsequent implementation.
The cost of compliance with the Federal rules.
Number of lawsuits against the AWA.
Cost of those lawsuits.
Effectiveness of the AWA Tiering system vs. Megan's Law.
How many parts of the AWA have been deemed either unconstitutional or inapplicable to offenders, AND WHY!!! (That is my main point for the Legislators.)
That is just a start of things to search.
Remember, what is legislated today MAY be "checked" in a Court later, and if not by a Court, then by the public for effectiveness in general, and also intended effectiveness vs. real cost. ("Feel good" doesn't always "make safe.")
Big issues to consider for a state with limited/waning budgets.





tolteca00


; my husbands name is Mark Perk ,) i saw a sex offender show on march 17, 2010 about the horrendous case of a small child raped by someone who was on the sex offender registry and the extensive damage he inflicted on the family and the whole tragic issue of sexual predators.



my husband is on the sex offender registry for having a consensual relationship with me,his wife, in 1998.,im now 29!!!!!We now have 3 beautiful children.There is an answer to the question ",why cant the police watch these guys and prevent future horrors."?
The answer is not what people want to hear as this subject is driven by hysteria and knee jerk legislation to appease a roman colliseum, mob type mentality.



There are thousands and thousands of consensual,statutory cases on the sex offender registry in each state,Plus juvenille cases(19 year olds with 15 year olds) ,public nudity,exposure,prostitution,indecent behavior,public peeing etc.



There simply are not enough police to monitor all these cases. Because the states wont interject risk assessment hearings, all sex offender registrants are lumped together and there simply isnt enough police power to monitor all registrants,nor should they.!!!!!!!!
IWe have been on television numerous times on this subject. I know what my husband did is socially taboo and illegal, yet he is not a threat to children or women.To put him next to a child rapist on this list, is like putting a casual marijuanna smoker ,caught with a bag, in the same arena s a meth lab gangster!!!!!!!. (as a result we have been on the Donny Deutch show and have had numerous articles in newspapers on our behalf)



List of police time waisted on my case:


my husband been on this list for 11 plus years,ive had 100 plus probation appointments,40 plus home checks,done over 17 police station check ins,police monitoring our home frequently,pulled over (with my wife,both of us in cuffs)11 plus times etc.Stickers on our home on Halloween,lost 6 jobs,various acts of vigilantism etc.



We have had DCFS called on us 3 times by an anonynous neighbor because im on the list and have had numerous threatening calls to our home. Addittionally we have had to call the Crestwood Police and bother them numerous times because of suspicious cars in front of our home, snapping pictures,gawking etc.All this police time for one consensual case ,AND WE ARE MARRIED .!!!!
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We were married by the same judge who gave me the original misdimeanor,who did not consider me a threat!!! He later helped seal our case to "protect this family and the children" )



If the public is wondering why law enforcement cant even stop violent registered offenders from re-offending,the answer is that these predators are like a pin hiding in a haystack.The haystack is thousands of non violent cases like mine, that would be removed immediately if risk assessment was employed.



No media figure has the courage to tell it straight: time to weed out the predators from the registrants who simply broke the law. Then the police can triple their time up on monitoring violent offenders.( Its not the police who make these laws its the congressional and Governor wannabes,who want to appear to look "tough on crime.",yet have no clue of the ramifications of their legilation on families nor care.)



Its always the same pattern, the media likes to cry wolf,get the public excited (for sensationalism)and then the lawmakers legislate an already blotted system ,while the real predators know this and use it in their hunting techniques as camoflague.


look up Mark Perk, l Google in" Lets seperate the Misguided from the monsters" Eric Zorn ,Chicago tribune. This is our story.



our daughter is 4 years old,ironically I am as scared as anyone of true sexual predators. The story of any young child raped is heart breaking ,frightening yet tragically will happen time and time again. No one has the courage to seperate the wheat from the chaff.or the "misguided from the monsters".



Krissy Perk








diehard25fl


people hate sex offenders. regardless of whatever conditions you allow. the ones that have been victimized will never be satisfied with any punishments handed out. so there really is no point of making things worse for them. the majority of them have learned their lessons and won't ever re-offfend.
now the laws in place now currently do the following: 1) they make it impossible for sex offenders to find jobs, keep jobs, have money, and live normal lives again. now do all of these 740,000 people have to be punished harshly due to the deaths of four kids? i would say not. Those kids are dead and making life impossilbe for people classified as sex offenders will not bring them back to life. 2) we repeal megan's law. nobody needs to know who got arrested and what he did in the past. It violates privacy, 14th amendment, 9th amendment, and most iimportantly is ex post facto or bill of attainder. 3) we change CORI to a shorter time for people convicted of a single sex offense - what that time limit is is debatable. but the one thing that is not debatable is that once you are cori as a sex offender its impossible to make a living and support yourself. 4) people who have no opportunity for making money cannot be successful citizens of this country. 5) we make it easy for all tier 2 sex offenders to get off registry after a reasonable period of time.- 2yrs, 5yr, 7yrs, 10yrs. whatever. once you are off the registry you information gets sealed for life automatically.
 

tom88

Well-Known Member
Awesome link, MarieB! Thank you. Did you get a chance to read some of the comments posted below it?

Why is it you won't answer my question. I will ask again. Since this happened when you were a young man, and it was only "heavy petting", has anyone ever accused you of a sex crime?
 

stockgirl

Stocki
No, someone else said 21.

I know, it was bad. I really messed up bad; that's why I went to prison.
I have never denied that. Point of this whole thread is this, though. My time is DONE. It was NOT a life sentence, but it is being made into one after-the-fact by this registry.

If the judge had thought what I did was bad enough to warrant a life sentence, he would have done so. There was no plea agreement; I got up on the stand and said what I did, and got sentenced.

It's done now. I have been to 10 yrs of therapy. I have rebuilt my life, but this registry thing makes sure I can NEVER rebuild my life. My family and I will suffer for this forever now.

At 28 years old, WTF were you doing at a college party? After reading all of the lies you've been spouting off I feel the sudden need to puke. You came on here asking for people to feel sorry for you. Not only did you lie about the facts (or atleast omitted the fact that you were 28), but you also jumped bond. Your place on that registry is deserved. You brought children into your environment. That's your fault, not the world's.
 

MarieB

New Member
Awesome link, MarieB! Thank you. Did you get a chance to read some of the comments posted below it?

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I guess I don't understand how you wouldn't know that only a handful of states have passed the federal mandate and are even compliant with this new law, especially considering that you mentioned that you've checked for more lenient states.

One Ohio Supreme Court has even ruled it unconstitutional.

IF you are eligible, then you should be able to petition the state of Illinois for removal. In fact, it would appear IF you were eligible, that you would have already been removed from the list. Obviously I am no lawyer, but something doesn't seem right. The Adam Walsh law should have had no bearing, as it hasn't even been adopted in Illinois
 

Father-of-Four

New Member
I guess I don't understand how you wouldn't know that only a handful of states have passed the federal mandate and are even compliant with this new law, especially considering that you mentioned that you've checked for more lenient states.

One Ohio Supreme Court has ruled it unconstitutional. IF you are eligible, then you should be able to petition the state of Illinois for removal. In fact, it would appear IF you were eligible, that you would have already been removed from the list. Obviously I am no lawyer, but it seems like something is missing here

No, Marie; you're not missing anything. I have 2 more years to go before I can petition. (10 years from release from prison, which was in 2004). Unfortunately, I am told by Maryland that it probably won't change anything here, and that I would have to retain a lawyer to fight for it, but I plan to try anyway. Thank you.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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At 28 years old, WTF were you doing at a college party? After reading all of the lies you've been spouting off I feel the sudden need to puke. You came on here asking for people to feel sorry for you. Not only did you lie about the facts (or atleast omitted the fact that you were 28), but you also jumped bond. Your place on that registry is deserved. You brought children into your environment. That's your fault, not the world's.

I have also changed my opinion in light of this new information.

It'd be great if people would tell the whole freaking story right off the bat instead of making us waste our sympathy before they finally fess up.
 

Bay_Kat

Tropical
I have also changed my opinion in light of this new information.

It'd be great if people would tell the whole freaking story right off the bat instead of making us waste our sympathy before they finally fess up.

That's why I didn't post about it until more facts came out, knew there had to be more to it.
 

tom88

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Sent to me in a pm.

Father-of-Four
Registered User


Member Since: Oct 2012
Posts: 39 Your question...

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I wont answer because I am tired of defending myself, Tom. You wouldn;t believe anything I said, anyway.
You obviously have access to some formidable resources; I would encourage you to dig a little deeper. Find the truth.

I guess that means he was accused of another sex crime.
 
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stockgirl

Stocki
I have also changed my opinion in light of this new information.

It'd be great if people would tell the whole freaking story right off the bat instead of making us waste our sympathy before they finally fess up.

But it's so much fun digging into people's backgrounds! :lol:
 
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