Should Adultery Be A Crime?

[nhboy]

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"DENVER—Colorado moved a step closer to repealing the unenforced crime of adultery Friday with a Senate vote, after arguments that the crime is outdated and never enforced.

The bill also repeals the related crime of contributing to "sexual immorality" by providing a place for unmarried people to have sex. That prohibition was aimed at Frontier-era flophouses.

Colorado is one of a handful of states that still have adultery crimes on the books, and there has been little debate about tossing the prohibition.

"These are very antiquated notions, and in my mind they're actually unconstitutional," said the bill's sponsor, Democratic Sen. Pat Steadman, who doubted that a crime that hinges on a person's marital status and wouldn't be illegal for unmarried people could withstand a legal challenge.

One lawmaker, though, has taken issue with the measure. Republican Sen. Kevin Lundberg argued unsuccessfully Friday that lawmakers should hold off repealing the sexual immorality part until they can be assured the change won't endanger modern-day prostitution and human trafficking cases.

Lundberg feared that repealing the place-of-unmarried-sex law could spark brothels in Colorado.

"I've been informally calling this the brothel bill, because that's what it's going to be doing," Lundberg warned."

 

[royhobie]

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"DENVER—Colorado moved a step closer to repealing the unenforced crime of adultery Friday with a Senate vote, after arguments that the crime is outdated and never enforced.

The bill also repeals the related crime of contributing to "sexual immorality" by providing a place for unmarried people to have sex. That prohibition was aimed at Frontier-era flophouses.

Colorado is one of a handful of states that still have adultery crimes on the books, and there has been little debate about tossing the prohibition.

"These are very antiquated notions, and in my mind they're actually unconstitutional," said the bill's sponsor, Democratic Sen. Pat Steadman, who doubted that a crime that hinges on a person's marital status and wouldn't be illegal for unmarried people could withstand a legal challenge.

One lawmaker, though, has taken issue with the measure. Republican Sen. Kevin Lundberg argued unsuccessfully Friday that lawmakers should hold off repealing the sexual immorality part until they can be assured the change won't endanger modern-day prostitution and human trafficking cases.

Lundberg feared that repealing the place-of-unmarried-sex law could spark brothels in Colorado.

"I've been informally calling this the brothel bill, because that's what it's going to be doing," Lundberg warned."

One step closer to judgement day. Morals and values will continue to sink lower until this day comes. Then it will be time.

 

[UNA]

Wirelessly posted

Sorry, you can't legislate morality. You can't make adultery illegal nor can you regulate what 'kind' of sex is approved. Good on Colorado...finally

 

[ItalianScallion]

Sorry, you can legislate morality. You can't make adultery illegal nor can you regulate what 'kind' of sex is approved. Good on Colorado...finally

I'm your forum stalker........
You've really got to check your text before sending it. To be consistent with your next statement, your 3rd word should be can't and I'm sure that's what you meant to send.

Anyhow, back to the matter. Adultery is always wrong and always will be, no matter what Colorado or mankind says. God said it's wrong and that matter is closed forever. So yes; adultery should be a crime...but it won't be enforced here until Judgment day (like Royhobie said). This is just another reason why America is being hounded by radical towel heads...

 

[bcp]

I'm your forum stalker........
You've really got to check your text before sending it. To be consistent with your next statement, your 3rd word should be can't and I'm sure that's what you meant to send.

Anyhow, back to the matter. Adultery is always wrong and always will be, no matter what Colorado or mankind says. God said it's wrong and that matter is closed forever. So yes; adultery should be a crime...but it won't be enforced here until Judgment day (like Royhobie said). This is just another reason why America is being hounded by radical towel heads...

You know, I really dont like crowded places, so, I say let adultry not be a crime as far as mankind is concerned.
I personally will continue to look at is as a crime, so I wont engage in it physically.
Hopefully, on judgment day there will be more going down than going up and I wont have the crowds to deal with.

 

[CrashTest]

Wirelessly posted

Sorry, you can legislate morality.

Yes you can. Murder is immoral.

However, society decides what's legal and not legal so whatever Colorodo decides on locally sould be the law of the land. Remember, ragheads stone people for adultery because they live in a savage society but it's how they want it.

 

[Rommey]

Sorry, you can['t] legislate morality. You can't make adultery illegal nor can you regulate what 'kind' of sex is approved.

So then why should prostitution be illegal?

 

[hvp05]

Yes you can. Murder is immoral.

Murder pretty obviously impedes the victim's life and freedom. Sex, not so much.

You've really got to check your text before sending it.

.

 

[Mongo53]

You can't Legislate Morality?

Is that NOT what half our laws on the book exactly try to do? And some quite successfully?

2 things about the Colorado issue.

• They claim it is unenforceable, likely because they lack the will to try to enforce it.
• The other, more legitimate claim, libertarian reasons, they don't have the right to tell other people NOT to sleep around, because sleeping around does NOT harm others rights/freedoms sufficiently to infringe on their rights. Of course there is an argument how it harms others and society, but its a matter of degrees.

Considering nhboy/nonno posted this, I think th real answer is, judging from his posts;

Of course Adultery is a crime, if you're Conservative, now if you're Liberal, its a badge of honor. They just haven't figured out a way to pass a law like that yet.

 

[UNA]

Adultery is always wrong and always will be, no matter what Colorado or mankind says. God said it's wrong and that matter is closed forever. So yes; adultery should be a crime...but it won't be enforced here until Judgment day (like Royhobie said). This is just another reason why America is being hounded by radical towel heads...

I agree, adultery is wrong (not because 'god' said so but because it is basically a breach of contract with a spouse) but if you make it a crime you suddenly make open relationships a crime and (though you may not agree with it) an open marriage shouldn't be illegal. Further, how would one define adultery? Physical sex? What about emotional adultery? It gets very difficult to define and more difficult to prove. Adultery is wrong but making it a crime is dangerous.

 

[UNA]

Yes you can. Murder is immoral.

Murder is not a moral issue, it's an issue WRT everyone's right to life...adultery is a moral issue hence thew swingers like them or not, they're not hurting anyone and therefore should not be made into criminals.

 

[Mongo53]

If you're a military officer it should be a crime.

Not according to the media, its just "Military has weird rules about dating" when convicting a Lt that was serial sleeping with the spouses of her subordinates.

With the Military, you'll note, its strictly enforced when it impacts unit cohesion and integrity.

If you're a politician it should be a crime.

Not according to the media, and Liberals (is there a difference)? See above, crime or merit is dependent on political convictions.

If you're a military chaplain, priest, false prophet etc; it should be Capital Punishment.

Yes, why are we wasting gas/electricity/lethal drugs on serial killers and savage animals that continue to kill in prison, again and again; they should be going to the clergy with human failings.

If you're married and hanging out in the forum's religious room to get laid it should be talked about in chit chat with photos attached.

A justice system that is NOT fair and proportional will fail, it is totally incompatible with Political Correctness.

 

[UNA]

So then why should prostitution be illegal?

Prostitution shouldn't be illegal!

 

[UNA]

You can't Legislate Morality?

Is that NOT what half our laws on the book exactly try to do?

Yes, but I don't think they should be! Just because they're there doesn't mean I agree with them!

 

[DoWhat]

With the Military, you'll note, its strictly enforced when it impacts unit cohesion and integrity.

Adultery in the military is also doing your wife doggy style or getting a BJ.

 

[hvp05]

I agree, adultery is wrong (not because 'god' said so but because it is basically a breach of contract with a spouse) but if you make it a crime you suddenly make open relationships a crime...

Probably not. Consider the first part of your statement, about a breach of contract. If two people are in an 'open' relationship, then a fundamental part of the contract is that they can be with other partners. Unless the law is going to define what a 'real' marriage is and is not - another hotbed issue - people could have as many other partners as they wish.

Further, how would one define adultery? Physical sex? What about emotional adultery? It gets very difficult to define and more difficult to prove.

I think that is a valid point. As IS has pointed out, in god's opinion, if you have committed the sin in your mind that is equivalent to acting it out. Since a judge cannot read minds, how would that be proven in court?

Some people consider Internet flirting and cybersex to be cheating. Where would the law fall there?

 

[UNA]

Probably not. Consider the first part of your statement, about a breach of contract. If two people are in an 'open' relationship, then a fundamental part of the contract is that they can be with other partners. Unless the law is going to define what a 'real' marriage is and is not - another hotbed issue - people could have as many other partners as they wish.

You would think...but since the marriage license for an open marriage looks exactly like one for a monogamous marriage you'd have trouble arguing that one 'contract' is different from another. Also, morality laws often seem to be driven by extreme conservatives who are also [often] intrusively religious, most Bible-Belt types would be vehemently against an open relationship being allowed citing the Bible (like they do with gay marriage). Very dangerous ground here......

I think that is a valid point. As IS has pointed out, in god's opinion, if you have committed the sin in your mind that is equivalent to acting it out. Since a judge cannot read minds, how would that be proven in court?

Some people consider Internet flirting and cybersex to be cheating. Where would the law fall there?

Right! WRT law however, God should not enter into it other then by coincidence (i.e. state murder laws). Either way, I would think I'd have a pretty hard time proving my husband cheated on me via his mind or the internet. I'd have trouble proving he had physical sex at all! I would think a cheater would at least be smart enough to use a condom therefore leaving no physical evidence...but who knows

No matter how you look at it, adultery laws would be a very slippery slope to legislating the rest of my sex life...and I would prefer to keep old men out of my bedroom until my husband is one

 

[awpitt]

Adultery in the military is also doing your wife doggy style or getting a BJ.

Actually, those aren't adultery, they're sodomy.

 

[DoWhat]

Actually, those aren't adultery, they're sodomy.

Oops.

 

[toppick08]

Actually, those aren't adultery, they're sodomy.

Well Hell,....must be the ..well, I won't say it.....I might make them puke thread........