So - RFK Jr?
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ODing, driving drunk, raping women....
Can someone explain to me why in 2024 are the Kennedys still held in such esteeme?
They seem incredible reckless and haven’t held any real office in decades.
Btw, hi!
I was unaware regular people held them in any esteem. Democrat media types love them, but only if they spout progbot propaganda or run for office as a Democrat. Other than that I don't think too many people give a damn about the Kennedys.
Grumpy
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^that
Chopticon64
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So why does Trump bring him out on stage? If even you folks think he is a dem hack, what does Trump know?
Harris didn’t even talk to him, which he was obviously miffed about. So why does Trump embrace him?
Harris didn’t even talk to him, which he was obviously miffed about. So why does Trump embrace him?
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YOU are the Democrat Explain it ......
Personally I don't give 2 figs what ANY Kennedy has to say, RFK has some seriously nutty ideas, but any political movers that stir up and annoys the democrat ... I'll entertain in the short term ... this may draw some voters to Trump
Meh ... Temporary Allies
but no I don't think most of Kennedy's Supporters are going to Vote Trump, I'll be happy they just stay home and don't vote for Kamel Toe
Chopticon64
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Did you see my link? Trump embraced him tonight in Arizona.
It wasn’t a youtube person or something, just the straight video. If you need me to narrate it for you let me know
Kinnakeet
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Good question
seekeroftruth
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JFK sold out... period...
Bum....
When I first heard he was running.... It was worth a look.
Then he sold out... period...
What a bum...
Bum....
When I first heard he was running.... It was worth a look.
Then he sold out... period...
What a bum...
MOST of the people I know who said they were planning to vote for RFK Jr - are conservatives who weren't sure they wanted to vote for Trump again - and like me, in 1992, thought the third party candidate actually had a chance. Of the non-conservatives - they were Democrats who just couldn't see voting for Biden, either. They either didn't like his capitulation to the far left, or they were honest enough to know they were being led by a man with less than a full deck.
The reason I liked the Democrats - at one time - is the primary difference I saw in their ideologies, at the time. Democrats are - or were - idealists. Republicans are - or were - pragmatists. An idealist might promote an idea - until it becomes mainstream (such as broad acceptance of gay marriage). A pragmatist might seek compromise in an issue that has no short term solution - such as abortion. Example - I was listening to Sonny Johnson on the radio - and she was mentioning - this is the real world, where a federal BAN on abortion cannot happen - nor a federal guarantee for abortion - because the votes simply aren't there - and are not GOING to be.
Maybe it is AGE - but pragmatism over time has served better than idealism. I've run down too many blind alleys chasing unicorns.
RFK is an idealist - but his ideas appeal more to conservatives. He's cautious about the COVID vaccine - and he has a point. Vaccine RESEARCH created COVID-19. And the "answer" - forced upon the public - has had documentable downsides. He's a small e environmentalist - protect the environment but not a fan of the new Green Deal and government mandates. He's changed his mind on climate change. I'm sure you can dig up other stuff - he's changed his mind.
And for the fact that he's a Democrat - so was Trump once. And Reagan.
The reason I liked the Democrats - at one time - is the primary difference I saw in their ideologies, at the time. Democrats are - or were - idealists. Republicans are - or were - pragmatists. An idealist might promote an idea - until it becomes mainstream (such as broad acceptance of gay marriage). A pragmatist might seek compromise in an issue that has no short term solution - such as abortion. Example - I was listening to Sonny Johnson on the radio - and she was mentioning - this is the real world, where a federal BAN on abortion cannot happen - nor a federal guarantee for abortion - because the votes simply aren't there - and are not GOING to be.
Maybe it is AGE - but pragmatism over time has served better than idealism. I've run down too many blind alleys chasing unicorns.
RFK is an idealist - but his ideas appeal more to conservatives. He's cautious about the COVID vaccine - and he has a point. Vaccine RESEARCH created COVID-19. And the "answer" - forced upon the public - has had documentable downsides. He's a small e environmentalist - protect the environment but not a fan of the new Green Deal and government mandates. He's changed his mind on climate change. I'm sure you can dig up other stuff - he's changed his mind.
And for the fact that he's a Democrat - so was Trump once. And Reagan.
I think the generation that put the Kennedy's up on a pedestal is long dead.
Simple - Trump likes to build alliances and a big tent instead of being all "NOKD
" like the Democrats. And the Republican elite, frankly.DID YOU KNOW that Trump opened Mar-A-Lago to black members at a time when rich Democrats were trying to keep black people away from them other than as servants? The media likes to hide that but some of us were alive in the 80s and 90s and remember it well. We also remember how Trump was quite welcoming to people of all races, religions, and sexual preferences, unless you were Jeffrey Epstein preying on young girls - then he kicked you out of his club. AND how he hired women in executive positions when they weren't welcome in any other boardroom.
You want to believe that Trump is this bad guy, all hating on anyone who isn't a white male Christian, but that's simply not true. You've been brainwashed by the MSM who memory holes Trump's accomplishments and instead fills your head with hater bullshit. And you must like it that way because the truth is right at your fingertips, yet you refuse to seek it.
This is the sort of swill you gobble:
As business move, Trump opened Mar-a-Lago to Jews, blacks
A years-old pro-Trump Facebook post that’s still viral shows a photo of a young Donald Trump with the headline: "So You
www.politifact.com
Politifact goes over the statement, proves that it's true, then assigns their own motive to it and declares it false.
Back to RFKJ:
Why would Trump turn down Kennedy's endorsement? There's no reason why he would be all, "Nah, beat it, loser." Of course he's going to say, "Sure! Come on in!" just like he did with Nicki Haley. And it also might be a poke in the eye to the Kennedy clan, who don't seem to realize nobody has cared about them in decades except as tabloid fodder yet they seem to think of themselves as royalty. All they're famous for now is dropping dead of drugs and other reckless poor decisions.
Near as I can tell - there aren't many Kennedys still in politics. Ted's son is a state senator in Connecticut. The others who have even expressed an interest in politics - who are still alive - are Joe Kennedy III (RFK Jr grandson), Caroline, and Chris (RFK's brother).
No one else appears interested - or STILL interested - in politics. Joe II left office 25 years ago - doesn't want to return, staying with his clean energy projects and turning down a nomination to the Massachusetts Senate seat occupied by other Kennedys.
Like the Bushes - it seems to have run it course. Personally, I hate the idea of political dynasties.
No one else appears interested - or STILL interested - in politics. Joe II left office 25 years ago - doesn't want to return, staying with his clean energy projects and turning down a nomination to the Massachusetts Senate seat occupied by other Kennedys.
Like the Bushes - it seems to have run it course. Personally, I hate the idea of political dynasties.
Hessian
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Anyone who has read the Rise and Fall of Adolph Hitler (Shirer)....should shudder at the methods being used today to install Harris. The consolidation of power while internally dismantling a Republic...is stark (Weimar that is...)I heard the Democrat convention referred to as CommieCon
And half the country is cheering it on.....
But none of this is new, as you well know. History tells us it's inevitable because human nature doesn't change. We think we evolve, but we don't really. And as a teacher you know that while some humans have a thirst for knowledge, most don't want to learn at all.
Heck, this stuff is in the Bible. The names change but the nature remains the same.
Fascinating, and while it alarms me it also excites me because I'm getting to watch all these things I've read about and wondered WTH is wrong with people in real time present day. I've often wondered why our ancestors just sat there being ignorant asses and let themselves be enslaved/destroyed, and now their modern counterparts are telling me in their own words.
No dumbass ......
YOU asked why ANY KENNEDY was Relevant in 2024 ....
Simple - Trump likes to build alliances and a big tent instead of being all "NOKD
Trump was a NY DEMOCRAT For Decades
Sneakers
Just sneakin' around....
Maybe why that's why the Dems hate on him so much. To them, he's a traitor.
So?