Soft economy hurting NASCAR attendance

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

No you said "the bigger tracks cost a lot more to maintain" and I countered and said there have been large tracks since the dawn of the modern era of NASCAR so that is false.

Now, those tracks you mention are not just "tracks" but "megaplex's" with luxury boxes and suites and numerous VIP areas, food courts, and so on and that does cost more. If they didn't build those places to be cathedrals to NASCAR, NASCAR would not have given the heave-ho to South Wilksboro, Nashville, and Darlington and moved races to them.

So see, NASCAR in a round about way is causing its own wane of popularity.

Yes, they are megaplex's. The problem is the owners of those tracks have done little to improve the racing on the track.

Don't even get me started on the weeper issue at California. That should never happen, at that extreme, on a track where tickets cost hundreds of dollars a piece. Then the owner of Auto Club Speedway of SoCal says the track is fine. Puhhh-leaze.

Brian France needs to grow a set and say, "You're track sucks. You have the lowest rated races, the fans hate the races, and you can't even fill half of your grandstands when you're in the second largest market. We're moving the August date back to Darlington."

But, that'll never happen.

EVERYBODY's criticized the Auto Club Speedway of Southern California, and they have for years. But, NASCAR still gives them two dates. And, I agree with you on that - Brian France is causing a lot of the problems.

BTW - it wasn't NASCAR that took the North Wilkesboro races away. Bob Bahre, in a partnership with Bruton Smith, was the grand architect of that one.

 

[Pete]

Yes, they are megaplex's. The problem is the owners of those tracks have done little to improve the racing on the track.

Don't even get me started on the weeper issue at California. That should never happen, at that extreme, on a track where tickets cost hundreds of dollars a piece. Then the owner of Auto Club Speedway of SoCal says the track is fine. Puhhh-leaze.

Brian France needs to grow a set and say, "You're track sucks. You have the lowest rated races, the fans hate the races, and you can't even fill half of your grandstands when you're in the second largest market. We're moving the August date back to Darlington."

But, that'll never happen.

EVERYBODY's criticized the Auto Club Speedway of Southern California, and they have for years. But, NASCAR still gives them two dates. And, I agree with you on that - Brian France is causing a lot of the problems.

BTW - it wasn't NASCAR that took the North Wilkesboro races away. Bob Bahre, in a partnership with Bruton Smith, was the grand architect of that one.

They wont because NASCAR granted them the date on the schedule because that is what NASCAR wanted. NASCAR wanted to branch out to mexplexes and did everything to urge it to happen at their own expense. That was the plan of Bill france way before Brian France took over.

Smith and Bahre did nothing without the nod from the "godfather"

 

[nachomama]

PETE CAMERON IS TAKIN POTOMAC BACK OVER, HE WAS THE PROMOTER BEFORE JONES

REALLY? I DID NOT KNOW THAT. *have worked there parttime for years*

Pete didn't do jack for the track when he ran it. Rick can stay at The Rock for all I care.

I'll work at Potomac (and watch the races for free), but I go to Hagerstown or Saluda, and gladly pay admission. They're $$ are far more reasonable and the Sawyers and Plesingers run their tracks better.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

REALLY? I DID NOT KNOW THAT. *have worked there parttime for years*

Pete didn't do jack for the track when he ran it. Rick can stay at The Rock for all I care.

I'll work at Potomac (and watch the races for free), but I go to Hagerstown or Saluda, and gladly pay admission. They're $$ are far more reasonable and the Sawyers and Plesingers run their tracks better.

At least you don't get splinters in your azz sitting down at Hagerstown, VMS or MIR.

Even Aquasco and Marlboro had aluminum bleachers when they were around, and neither track has operated since the 60s and 70s.

Nacho, when did PS get a control tower? Is that what they call that rickety old thing behind the so-called grandstands?

Yep, they're gonna run Royce out of business.

 

[nachomama]

At least you don't get splinters in your azz sitting down at Hagerstown, VMS or MIR.

Even Aquasco and Marlboro had aluminum bleachers when they were around, and neither track has operated since the 60s and 70s.

Nacho, when did PS get a control tower? Is that what they call that rickety old thing behind the so-called grandstands?

Yep, they're gonna run Royce out of business.

It's that rickety old thing behind the so-called grandstands.

It's not a control tower persay; it's more a tall wood-structured building that houses the concession stand and the announce booth.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

It's that rickety old thing behind the so-called grandstands.

It's not a control tower persay; it's more a tall wood-structured building that houses the concession stand and the announce booth.

Yep, though so.

Rick Jones is gonna when MIR opens the new concession stands.

Annnouce booth... They have power in that thing?

Hey, Potomac's moving up in the world. Maybe they'll get dial-up internet soon.

 

[nachomama]

Yep, though so.

Rick Jones is gonna when MIR opens the new concession stands.

Annnouce booth... They have power in that thing?

Hey, Potomac's moving up in the world. Maybe they'll get dial-up internet soon.

The lights and electrical outlets work, the pa system still sucks though.

You may be right! They've loved having the typewriters there for the last year or so.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

The lights and electrical outlets work, the pa system still sucks though.

You may be right! They've loved having the typewriters there for the last year or so.

Typewriter? What's that? What's this "typewriter" you speak of?



Do they still use chalkboards as their scoring monitors? Maybe they use the slides and have someone standing at the scoreboard - like the old baseball fields had.

 

[jetmonkey]

PETE CAMERON IS TAKIN POTOMAC BACK OVER, HE WAS THE PROMOTER BEFORE JONES

WHAT!?

 

[Pete]

WHAT!?