Solomons lying about photo enforcement.

glhs837

Power with Control
So, just noticed a sign entering the island that shows the speed limit of 25mph and below that a sign that says photo enforced. This one here, although of course, Google Maps doesnt have that pictured yet.



Whats odd is that OLSS is not on the Countys list of speed camera locations. So it literally cannot have photo enforcement of the speed limit.


Now of course, I'm not advocating ripping through the island at 100 plus, or even 40. But I do hate when govt lies.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
Virginia has those signs all over the place, but imply it's from aircraft. The don't have the time or budget to actually enforce road speeds from the air.
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
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The cops use to sit at the base of the bridge, just past the entrance for the rec center. The speed drops there and most drivers ignored the change. Some days the scofflaws would be stacked 3-4 deep awaiting their fate and tickets.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Virginia has those signs all over the place, but imply it's from aircraft. The don't have the time or budget to actually enforce road speeds from the air.
I mean at least at one time they did have such a unit :)
The cops use to sit at the base of the bridge, just past the entrance for the rec center. The speed drops there and most drivers ignored the change. Some days the scofflaws would be stacked 3-4 deep awaiting their fate and tickets.
Yep, one of the silliest things ever. Evans always screaming and shout about catching speeders to make the roads safer, when every damn accident on Rt 4 is some jackass failing to yield. Well, except that case of the trooper that killed that young girl by outdriving his lights and sirens. That was speed.
 

3CATSAILOR

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So, just noticed a sign entering the island that shows the speed limit of 25mph and below that a sign that says photo enforced. This one here, although of course, Google Maps doesnt have that pictured yet.



Whats odd is that OLSS is not on the Countys list of speed camera locations. So it literally cannot have photo enforcement of the speed limit.


Now of course, I'm not advocating ripping through the island at 100 plus, or even 40. But I do hate when govt lies.
What Counties in Maryland have speed enforcement cameras? It seems to be that distracted driving (people on their cell phone) accidents will soon pass by speed fatalities. In any case I think law enforcement is doing what they can. I support doubling the fines for people on their cell phones while driving combined with an education effort for the public. However, I doubt either will occur any time soon.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
What Counties in Maryland have speed enforcement cameras? It seems to be that distracted driving (people on their cell phone) accidents will soon pass by speed fatalities. In any case I think law enforcement is doing what they can. I support doubling the fines for people on their cell phones while driving combined with an education effort for the public. However, I doubt either will occur any time soon.
I think most do by this point. Because something about Maryland speed camera program. It was designed to do nothing but make money. First reason is is that it's only allowed in school zones, Well, except for the exception of route 210. But otherwise it's all school zones and construction zones on the highway. And what's funny is if you look for injury or fatal accidents in school zones, you pretty much don't find them because well people do generally pay attention in schools. And also we tend not to let kids wander around unsupervised in school zones.

But pitching the speed camera system to save the school kids was a great marketing move. Also, since it's not allowed to report to insurance, people don't get mad enough to vote them out. Same reason for the low $40 fine. These systems are designed to be a parasite that lives below the threshold of pain that would cause rejection by the taxpayers. Same thing for red light cameras. They always talk about reduction in red light running. They never talk about reduction in crashes. Again, no insurance reporting a low fine of only $75. The point of the system is to make money. It has nothing to do with increasing safety.

That's why cell phone enforcement needs to be close to as harsh as DUI. I honestly think it causes more crashes than DUI at this point.
 

glhs837

Power with Control

No, there's no talk about reduction and accidents or reduction and injuries or deaths from speeding drivers. It only talks about money because that's the only metric in which these things have any measurable value.
 
So, just noticed a sign entering the island that shows the speed limit of 25mph and below that a sign that says photo enforced. This one here, although of course, Google Maps doesnt have that pictured yet.



Whats odd is that OLSS is not on the Countys list of speed camera locations. So it literally cannot have photo enforcement of the speed limit.


Now of course, I'm not advocating ripping through the island at 100 plus, or even 40. But I do hate when govt lies.

Well, I have to ask those who speed:

Why are you managing your life and your time so poorly that it's necessary for you to speed?

A lot of persons like to self righteously declare "I'm a safe driver!".
Really? Dodged any speeding bullets lately, superman?
You're only as safe as the least competent driver on the road around you at any given time.


Like most social problems, the disease is ignored. All of the focus is on symptoms. What has to change is how people live their lives, not which areas have what speed limits.

Personal vehicles are anything BUT 'freedom'. A depreciating asset that sits there 90% of the time doing nothing. Loan payments, traffic jams, accidents, fatalities, license, registration, inspection, plates, insurance, gas, oil, antifreeze, belts, tires, parking tickets, speeding tickets, noise pollution, air and water pollution (road runoff from tire friction is something you drink every day and don't think about). And of course, a police force to monitor it all. Roads, bridges, traffic lights, signs. And above all, those wonderful trips to the Department of Motor Vehicles.

The price of gasoline is an illusion. To get the true price, you'd have to factor in the cost of assuring a supply of oil from overseas. (Asphalt is also made with oil, as I'm sure you know. ) Two trillion dollars a year are spent on the military, primarily to protect the supply of oil, and your taxes reflect this fact.

Are personal vehicles necessary? Not at all. It makes far more sense, in every regard, to bring things to people rather than force every person to chase around after the things. People can and should live, work, play and go to school all within easy walking distance. Rail and canals are vastly cheaper per ton than trucks could ever be.

When one Japanese city was experiencing an increase in drunk driving, it used common sense. All establishments that sold alcohol were relocated to an isolated part of the city, closed off from passenger vehicle traffic. The only way in or out was by train.
Simply changing where people are, and how they get resources, is the solution to your annoyance at speed limit enforcement.

Your mileage may vary (pun intended) but you might find this playlist of various clips interesting:




Yes, glhs837. I do understand that your focus is on government greed and dishonesty. The cure, though, is not to address symptoms, but the disease itself. When you can walk to every resource you might require, when bulk necessities come in by efficient, economical, clean methods, your speeding issue vanishes.

























 
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vraiblonde

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People can and should live, work, play and go to school all within easy walking distance.

That is my dream, and I'm almost there :starcat: but it's not feasible for most people at this point in time. I'm also big on mass transit if it's not full of crappy people that I don't want to sit near.

Teleportation!! I want that!!

There are all kinds of people who would love to transport themselves some way other than driving a car but it's not practical.

I'm with you on the village thing - my great-grandparents gave up their licenses when they turned 65 (because 65 was old back then) and were within walking distance of everything they needed for the most part. It was extremely pleasant walking to town with them - "Morning, Alice, how are the kids?" "Hello, George, how are those roses coming along?" It took forever to get a half mile because they'd stop to chat with everyone.

Ward Cleaver walked to work.

I'm also with you on the speeding thing. Not sure why people speed - it has to be because they want to for some reason because there's no practical necessity. Then they get all pissy about speed limit enforcement. :crazy:

So that's all somewhat digression, but you captured my interest with the live/work/shop/play village concept.
 

HemiHauler

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Are personal vehicles necessary? Not at all. It makes far more sense, in every regard, to bring things to people rather than force every person to chase around after the things. People can and should live, work, play and go to school all within easy walking distance. Rail and canals are vastly cheaper per ton than trucks could ever be.

That ship has sailed long ago when the US decided to favor cars and the requisite roads to carry them over smaller, more geographically close smaller cities easily reachable by train. Large cities here and abroad have lots of problems to be sure, but the US version of suburban living is just plain awful.

We’ve tried to fake it in recent years, what with these “town center” dumb developments which are just awful suburban chit holes. I was in Tysons Corner recently and their efforts to put living next to transportation (DC Metro) is just plain urban hell. By my estimate, you’d still need a car. I noted one high rise apartment building there with no retail on the ground floor. I noted one restaurant and one dry cleaners in walking distance. But hey - it was within walking distance of a Metro stop, so I imagine people who live there think they are living the dream!

I miss easy weekends away by train all over Europe. Plenty to see around the US but it’s a heavier lift to do in a weekend.

But I like cars too and I like to drive fast.
 
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