Solomons lying about photo enforcement.

[stgislander]

My understanding is that he walked downtown to his office.

I guess I need to go educate myself huh?

 

[vraiblonde]

I guess I need to go educate myself huh?

Damn it! I should have said that!

My understanding is that he walked downtown to his office. EDUCATE YOURSELF!

 

[Kyle]

I'm also with you on the speeding thing. Not sure why people speed -

When it's 400 horses or more... Theres a need for speed.

Good thing I didn't buy one of the GT500s or the Hellcat. Don't think I could afford those tickets.

 

[OccamsRazor]

Not sure why people speed

Probably for the same reason that people complain when their browser pages don't load fast enough or, when their food delivery isn't fast enough, etc. People have become used to things being available IMMEDIATELY. They no longer feel the need to have to wait for ANYTHING.

 

[glhs837]

Well, I have to ask those who speed:

Why are you managing your life and your time so poorly that it's necessary for you to speed?

A lot of persons like to self righteously declare "I'm a safe driver!".
Really? Dodged any speeding bullets lately, superman?
You're only as safe as the least competent driver on the road around you at any given time.

Like most social problems, the disease is ignored. All of the focus is on symptoms. What has to change is how people live their lives, not which areas have what speed limits.

Personal vehicles are anything BUT 'freedom'. A depreciating asset that sits there 90% of the time doing nothing. Loan payments, traffic jams, accidents, fatalities, license, registration, inspection, plates, insurance, gas, oil, antifreeze, belts, tires, parking tickets, speeding tickets, noise pollution, air and water pollution (road runoff from tire friction is something you drink every day and don't think about). And of course, a police force to monitor it all. Roads, bridges, traffic lights, signs. And above all, those wonderful trips to the Department of Motor Vehicles.

The price of gasoline is an illusion. To get the true price, you'd have to factor in the cost of assuring a supply of oil from overseas. (Asphalt is also made with oil, as I'm sure you know. ) Two trillion dollars a year are spent on the military, primarily to protect the supply of oil, and your taxes reflect this fact.

Are personal vehicles necessary? Not at all. It makes far more sense, in every regard, to bring things to people rather than force every person to chase around after the things. People can and should live, work, play and go to school all within easy walking distance. Rail and canals are vastly cheaper per ton than trucks could ever be.

When one Japanese city was experiencing an increase in drunk driving, it used common sense. All establishments that sold alcohol were relocated to an isolated part of the city, closed off from passenger vehicle traffic. The only way in or out was by train.
Simply changing where people are, and how they get resources, is the solution to your annoyance at speed limit enforcement.

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Yes, glhs837. I do understand that your focus is on government greed and dishonesty. The cure, though, is not to address symptoms, but the disease itself. When you can walk to every resource you might require, when bulk necessities come in by efficient, economical, clean methods, your speeding issue vanishes.

Lots in there.

1. Safety first. Your velocity should never be such that you are unsafe.
2. Speed limits should be set to reasonable limits, for which the NHTSA has guidelines. Survey traffic, and set the limit to the 85th percentile. When limits are artificially low (which Solomons are not, given the pedestrian traffic and amount of shops). 235 is low at 45. If the average speed is over the limit, your limit is too low.
3. Enforcement should be focused on deterring the behaviors that cause crashes. Factors matter, but causes matter more.
4. Yep, in a perfect world with perfect people, we could trust the govt to manage these things and build perfect communities. Let me know when people act like ants.
5. The disease boils down to politicians who can be bought with no consequence. Officers generally only perform speed enforcement because it increases their chances of catching real bad people. They will tell you that they want to get their heads in as many cars as possible.
6. Automated enforcement cannot be done for profit unless it steamrolls citizens rights. And no govt cares enough to do it at a loss.

 

[GURPS]

When you can walk to every resource you might require, when bulk necessities come in by efficient, economical, clean methods, your speeding issue vanishes.

Not at all. It makes far more sense, in every regard, to bring things to people rather than force every person to chase around after the things. People can and should live, work, play and go to school all within easy walking distance. Rail and canals are vastly cheaper per ton than trucks could ever be.

People in Europe DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN YOUR 15 MIN CITIES

PISS OFF and MIND Your Own Business

 

[GURPS]

3. Enforcement should be focused on deterring the behaviors that cause crashes. Factors matter, but causes matter more.

Everyone moving along at a common speed is SAFE, coming up on some idiot driving under the speed of everyone else distraced by their smart phone isn't

 

[3CATSAILOR]

I think most do by this point. Because something about Maryland speed camera program. It was designed to do nothing but make money. First reason is is that it's only allowed in school zones, Well, except for the exception of route 210. But otherwise it's all school zones and construction zones on the highway. And what's funny is if you look for injury or fatal accidents in school zones, you pretty much don't find them because well people do generally pay attention in schools. And also we tend not to let kids wander around unsupervised in school zones.

But pitching the speed camera system to save the school kids was a great marketing move. Also, since it's not allowed to report to insurance, people don't get mad enough to vote them out. Same reason for the low $40 fine. These systems are designed to be a parasite that lives below the threshold of pain that would cause rejection by the taxpayers. Same thing for red light cameras. They always talk about reduction in red light running. They never talk about reduction in crashes. Again, no insurance reporting a low fine of only $75. The point of the system is to make money. It has nothing to do with increasing safety.

That's why cell phone enforcement needs to be close to as harsh as DUI. I honestly think it causes more crashes than DUI at this point.

I am sure there are good intentions with the Speed Cameras. Just the mere presence should be a deterent to slow people down. I was doing 55 in a 50 on 235 the other day. Five over the speed limit. But, yet, people were passing me by like there was no tomorrow. I am not talking about one ore two. I am talking about nearly "everyone".

 

[glhs837]

I am sure there are good intentions with the Speed Cameras. Just the mere presence should be a deterent to slow people down. I was doing 55 in a 50 on 235 the other day. Five over the speed limit. But, yet, people were passing me by like there was no tomorrow. I am not talking about one ore two. I am talking about nearly "everyone".

There are people who support them with good intentions. Those people don't understand the real reason behind them. You want to slow people in school zones, you deploy troopers who can write tickets with points. With these, the message is legal for a price.

As for 235, If you are going the speed limit in every single person is passing you, that means that speed limit is simply set too low.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Ward Cleaver walked to work.

That was so he could reflect on how hard he was on the Beaver the night before and was worried he was too rough.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Everyone moving along at a common speed is SAFE, coming up on some idiot driving under the speed of everyone else distraced by their smart phone isn't

The biggest issue is that people follow too closely here. It makes it hard to change lanes and people with lane changing anxiety just stay in the left lane and those people are the ones that usually drive a little slower. The average following distance should probably be about 5x what it is for the average RT 235 commuter.

 

[spr1975wshs]

^I try to maintain convoy distance liked I learned in the USAFR.

 

[3CATSAILOR]

There are people who support them with good intentions. Those people don't understand the real reason behind them. You want to slow people in school zones, you deploy troopers who can write tickets with points. With these, the message is legal for a price.

As for 235, If you are going the speed limit in every single person is passing you, that means that speed limit is simply set too low.

Or there is an enforcement issue.