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[Angel]

Unless you people have been in this woman's shoes, and have been driven to the depths of despair it takes to commit suicide, then you have no room to say one dayum word about it. You don't have a clue about her mental state, what she was thinking, what were her thoughts concerning her children, her family? Have you ever had someone close to you commit suicide, a close friend, family member? Crack jokes? You can if you're that much of a lowlife. No sympathy? I don't really care if you do or not. That's entirely up to you. You get what you give, but don't sit in judgement on someone when you haven't been in their place or have been driven that far with no one to help. And don't BS me and tell me someone tried to help her. You don't know that. Who knows how screwed up in the head this woman was? I certainly don't. Unless you know the signs of suicide and what to watch for, you're in the dark. And you'll never know why they decided what to do. It will always haunt you as to why that person jumped or whatever. And this is the most I've said in a long time. I'll shut up now and the rest of you can say what you wish.

What you said sums it up pretty well.

I would like to add that sometimes a suicidal persons family and friends might do all that they can to help them and hope that they will not kill themselves, but sometimes no matter what you do it is not enough. Period.

I have a family member who tried to kill herself numerous times. The last time she tried to kill herself she died numerous times on the helicopter to the hospital and while on the hospital operating table, but the Surgeon who was Operating on her refused to let her go. He lost a child and couldn't bear the thought of my Grandparents losing a child, so he fought so very hard and thanks to him my Aunt is here today. It wasn't her time. Regardless of whether she thought it was or not it wasn't her time to go. I guess I don't know where I'm going with this thread. The many times before she tried to kill herself it was for attention, the last time she was serious. I am thankful that she is still here today, but to this day she begs for sympathy for something she brought upon herself AND she's living off of the Taxpayers money and will be until the day she dies a natural death.

 

[dustin]

I don't find the disrespect petty. Perhaps this thread is not your reality, but the theme of the thread is someone's reality.



Tell Nick I said

I just dont see how anyone can take anything personally on here.

Maybe I'm just detached too much...

 

[Mikeinsmd]

I just dont see how anyone can take anything personally on here.

Maybe I'm just detached too much...

 

[Nupe2]

Yeah it is.

Excellent Post Vince.

There are some pretty insensitive folks posting on this thread. I hope the lady's family can find the peace that she couldn't.

 

[vraiblonde]

I am thankful that she is still here today, but to this day she begs for sympathy for something she brought upon herself AND she's living off of the Taxpayers money and will be until the day she dies a natural death.

There's an old Chinese proverb that says if you save a man's life, you're responsible for him forever.

There are a zillion reasons why a person would kill themselves. My grandfather killed himself when he got diagnosed with Alzheimer's because he knew that he could live a VERY long life and his wife wouldn't be able to care for him. He didn't see any point in dragging it out, so he drove to town in his old pickup truck (not the good car) and shot himself in the head. We figure he didn't want his wife finding his body - he did it in front of the cop shop in the wee hours so no passersby would be traumatized, either.

It's interesting that this woman did something similar: didn't take pills or slit her wrists somewhere where a loved one could find her. She dove off a bridge early enough in the evening that she'd be seen and they'd start looking for her body right away. So I'm sure the people close to her know why she did it.

 

[Angel]

There's an old Chinese proverb that says if you save a man's life, you're responsible for him forever.

There are a zillion reasons why a person would kill themselves. My grandfather killed himself when he got diagnosed with Alzheimer's because he knew that he could live a VERY long life and his wife wouldn't be able to care for him. He didn't see any point in dragging it out, so he drove to town in his old pickup truck (not the good car) and shot himself in the head. We figure he didn't want his wife finding his body - he did it in front of the cop shop in the wee hours so no passersby would be traumatized, either.

It's interesting that this woman did something similar: didn't take pills or slit her wrists somewhere where a loved one could find her. She dove off a bridge early enough in the evening that she'd be seen and they'd start looking for her body right away. So I'm sure the people close to her know why she did it.

I am sorry about your Pop. I have always thought that a person who kills themselves would do it the same way your Pop did, and this lady did this past week, in a place where the family would not have to find them.

My Aunt walked out in front of a car. Is it wrong that I am still pissed off at her for making the people who hit her feel responsible for what she did to herself? The people that hit her are probably traumatised to this day that they hit her, but she walked out in front of them ON PURPOSE! Man it still makes me so mad.

 

[PAgirl76]

Read Acts 16;28 "Do thyself no harm"
Here is something else you can think about.
Premeditated murder not only includes abortion and euthanasia; it also pertains to suicide. Suicide is self-murder, the willful taking of one's own life. It expresses rebellion against God. Suicide is a deliberate refusal to submit to God's will. If the person dies immediately, it is a crime which allows no time for repentance.

When viewing God's Word and its truths regarding God, man, salvation, and eternity, there is no such thing as an unimportant, unnoticed, or useless life. The Bible provides four examples of persons who committed suicide, but all four were unbelievers who ended in self, not in God; in the despair of self, not in the hope of Christ. The four biblical examples are Saul (I Samuel 31:4), Ahithophel (II Samuel 17:23), Zirnri (I Kings 16:18), and Judas Iscariot (Matthew 27:3-5).

Today, some secular humanistic groups are advocating the right of a person to take his own life. However, their thoughts in this regard are both wrong and rebellious. Our life is not our own; it is a gift of God for which we are accountable. Life is given by God and may only be taken back by Him. When properly viewing God as the Creator and Upholder of life, a person understands that he has no more right to end his own life than that of another individual.

I don't need to debate with you nor do I need to defend the Bible. If you don't believe in something then there is no need to debate it with somebody. To close our conversation, I guess when you die you will find out if the bible is true or not. That is all I have to say to you.

 

[keepsmiling]

Nice message Vince!!! Thank you. Only those close to her MIGHT know the reasons. My prayers are with her family and friends and especially to her son. I don't judge this lady because I don't know what she was dealing with.

 

[vraiblonde]

My Aunt walked out in front of a car. Is it wrong that I am still pissed off at her for making the people who hit her feel responsible for what she did to herself? The people that hit her are probably traumatised to this day that they hit her, but she walked out in front of them ON PURPOSE! Man it still makes me so mad.

Now THAT is selfish. And making a loved one find your dead body is selfish, too.

 

[keepsmiling]

Sounds like you are feeling guilty for your family member's suicide. Maybe you have reason to be, seeing as you didn't stop that person from killing themselves.

You are a really nice person for leaving me this PM. But you know what, we didn't know that my brother was going to have his leg amputated due to diabetes until after he died. So you see, I have no reason to feel guilty, we didn't know. The Docs told him that afternoon that they would have to remove his leg and that night he took an overdose without telling anyone he was sick. You're a heartless person. May God bless your poor soul and I pray you never have to deal with pain.
Thanks for the RED karma, I like that color better than green anyway.

 

[vraiblonde]

Sounds like you are feeling guilty for your family member's suicide. Maybe you have reason to be, seeing as you didn't stop that person from killing themselves.

You are a really nice person for leaving me this PM. But you know what, we didn't know that my brother was going to have his leg amputated due to diabetes until after he died. So you see, I have no reason to feel guilty, we didn't know. The Docs told him that afternoon that they would have to remove his leg and that night he took an overdose without telling anyone he was sick. You're a heartless person. May God bless your poor soul and I pray you never have to deal with pain.
Thanks for the RED karma, I like that color better than green anyway.

Who are you talking to?

 

[keepsmiling]

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Cry baby. Too bad it wasn't you that jumped.

Another nice PM. Thanks!!! I'm glad I don't visit this place very often. I can see why you don't have very many newbies, you people are heartless.

 

[keepsmiling]

Vrai,

I just came back in and these are PMs that were sent to me. Sorry they weren't meant for you.

 

[slotted]

Read Acts 16;28 "Do thyself no harm"

That isn't quite

But according to the bible a person who commits suicide will spend eternity in hell.

Try again.

The rest of your post is drivel. I asked you to support your above claim.

Here's a little bait for you.

Here is something else you can think about.
Premeditated murder not only includes abortion and euthanasia;

According to our laws in this country, abortion isn't murder.

 

[vraiblonde]

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Cry baby. Too bad it wasn't you that jumped.

Somebody left me one of those too

And we get newbies every day, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

 

[missperky]

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Cry baby. Too bad it wasn't you that jumped.

Another nice PM. Thanks!!! I'm glad I don't visit this place very often. I can see why you don't have very many newbies, you people are heartless.

PM or karma? :shrug:

 

[keepsmiling]

I'm sorry I guess they are Karma, it's one thing to give someone bad Karmas but do you have to be so gutless about it? I have never said anything mean. Vince writes just about what I said and gets wonderful remarks about it; but me the newbie I get told "too bad you didn't jump off the bridge". What a nice person. Glad I was able to help the person with your pathetic life to say something so disgusting.

 

[slotted]

Read Acts 16;28 "Do thyself no harm"
Here is something else you can think about.
Premeditated murder not only includes abortion and euthanasia; it also pertains to suicide. Suicide is self-murder, the willful taking of one's own life. It expresses rebellion against God. Suicide is a deliberate refusal to submit to God's will. If the person dies immediately, it is a crime which allows no time for repentance.

When viewing God's Word and its truths regarding God, man, salvation, and eternity, there is no such thing as an unimportant, unnoticed, or useless life. The Bible provides four examples of persons who committed suicide, but all four were unbelievers who ended in self, not in God; in the despair of self, not in the hope of Christ. The four biblical examples are Saul (I Samuel 31:4), Ahithophel (II Samuel 17:23), Zirnri (I Kings 16:18), and Judas Iscariot (Matthew 27:3-5).

Today, some secular humanistic groups are advocating the right of a person to take his own life. However, their thoughts in this regard are both wrong and rebellious. Our life is not our own; it is a gift of God for which we are accountable. Life is given by God and may only be taken back by Him. When properly viewing God as the Creator and Upholder of life, a person understands that he has no more right to end his own life than that of another individual.

I don't need to debate with you nor do I need to defend the Bible. If you don't believe in something then there is no need to debate it with somebody. To close our conversation, I guess when you die you will find out if the bible is true or not. That is all I have to say to you.

Something else, You forgot to give credit for your post to http://www.holybible.com/resources/doctrine3/p25.shtml
See, what you did was plagerize. It's pretty close to lying using some elses words as your own. The funny part is that the Bible says you'll go to hell for that.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.



sucks to be you.

 

[Pandora]

Dear PA,

How insensitive to come in here and quote a bible passage pointing out that taking one’s life is a sin.

The bible also says "The heart knows its own bitterness, And a stranger does not share its joy" (Prov. 14:10). The hurts, pains, disappointments, delayed hopes and broken dreams of your life are stored in our hearts and often, the brain assaults our hearts and our own bodies getting a person stuck in despair and feeling there is no way out. I think of it along the lines of an illness, a mental illness.

I don't know about your God, but my God is a forgiving God and I'm sure he understands one's mindset.

 

[Pete]

I wish all of you would just shut your pie holes and cut with the "I'm offended act"