SOP to degrade and embarass people ....
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hmm ok
so who complained :shrug:
I still do not see the need to strip search her, and toss her in a cell for hours ....
MarieB
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hmm ok
so who complained :shrug:
I still do not see the need to strip search her, and toss her in a cell for hours ....
Maybe the girl did?
Strip search no, but she lied on the visa application. I'm surprised they didn't contact anyone from India though
the Maid's Visa App ...
... seems about over the top to me, for what is essentially a white collar crime
but hey she is a minor diplomat, not a Wall Street Banker
itsrequired
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She is getting arrested and booked. Do you not think it is a good idea for someone who is going to be brought into jail to be searched?
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So in your mind, only crack heads would bring contraband into a jail. Okay. Why search anyone who isn't a crack head going into jail then. Why not just take them at their word. Tell me what is a proper search of someone entering a jail. How do you differentiate them?
Toxick
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Probably a diplomatic official who is being brought in on an immigration charge probably doesn't have a balloon full of heroin stuck in her fartbox.
I think this process could have been carried out better.
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I think it could have been as well. In Maryland they could have got a summons and there woul not have been a need for an arrest. If however, she was being introduced into a jail setting, she needs to be searched like EVERY other single person being introduced into the jail setting. Why on earth would we treat a foreign national differently than we would treat our own citizens?
Toxick
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So why even arrest her then? Why not just let her commit any crime she wishes? That would prevent international incidents wouldn't it?
Toxick
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Don't be ####ing dense.
Besides, if her defense is Diplomatic Immunity - which it appears it's going to be - Then she's going to commit any crime she wishes anyway.
you are being a dense ... [and even stated in MD this could have handled with a summons]
is that your only 2 modes
off to jail or ignore the crime ...
what reasonable suspicion would the NYPD have to believe a minor diplomat would be carrying drugs in her snatch as she is being cited for labor violations .... not involvement in drugs
I know she is part of a conspiracy to smuggle dope into the jail ... purposely under paid her maid to get arrested
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Expell her then. This is the first step in that direction. If the U.S. doesn't take a step like this then these diplomats will continue to enslave people. I get that strip searching sounds like a harsh thing and someone with a delicate sense of entitlement will get their panties bunched up putting them back on, but that's what happens when you get arrested in many places.
If the guards start to pick and choose who they strip search and give preferential treatment to some, how much do you think that's going to cost us in the long run?
If you don't want her to go through the process don't arrest her. She was locked up by the Marshalls which leads me to believe the feds knew this was going to happen. Expell her and save yourself the issue, rather than complain about the treatment which is consistent with running a jail.
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It's not my only two modes, as I have already stated a summons would have been the better way to handle this, but I don't know if NY has that capability in their judicial system.
If they don't and an arrest is the only option, then she gets treated like the rest. She's a diplomat? Okay state department, expell her before she's arrested. Otherwise, don't bitch about the prison doing their job!
Toxick
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Less than if they apply their brains.
Diplomats require special treatment. They just do. Regardless of whether you, or I, or anyone else finds this distasteful, that's the nature of the beast. I don't think local or state police departments should have been involved with this at all. She never should have seen a jail.
The feds should have handled this right out the chute. #### like this is explicitly spelled out in their G-Man employee handbook isn't it?
Works for me.
As soon as it was discovered she was doing these things, she should have been driven straight to her embassy, and the officials there informed that she is no longer welcome on our soil, unless it's to get her to the airport on her way back to Mumbai.
glhs837
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You know, guys the strip search isn't just to prevent drugs from being smuggled in, it's also for officer and prisoner safety. A diplomat might not be likely to have drugs, but might very well be driven to attempt suicide, especially one from a society where shame is a huge motivator. And so a search would be done to ensure she has nothing on here person that would make a suicide attempt easier.
Did she need to be taken in and booked? Cant say, don't know who made that call. As for the immunity, from what I read, consulate officials only really get it for official acts, not personal behavior. Maybe if she did this assisting an Indian citzen, she could claim it, but since it was her nanny, that'sno good.
Did she need to be taken in and booked? Cant say, don't know who made that call. As for the immunity, from what I read, consulate officials only really get it for official acts, not personal behavior. Maybe if she did this assisting an Indian citzen, she could claim it, but since it was her nanny, that'sno good.
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