St. Mary's Pigskin Football

[Msd_plumbing]

Take it from someone that was actually there. There was no other choose to do what happened on Saturday. He had to get the equipment back "then and there", if not then alot of money would have been lost. How many parents do you think would have returned the equipment to him? Helments, and shoulder pads were thrown at Don, by both the parents and kids. There was no unfair calls. The broncos and the cowboys played a few weeks ago with the same refs, and there was no problem, but as soon as the cowboys tied the game then all the stuff started.

This team had no disipline at all. The coach told the kids if you can't beat them, beat them up. That is a wonderful thing to say, and playing like that made a out of county team forfit. I went out to the parking lot and apologized to the coach, and he said we didn't come down here to fight. So this was a on-going thing with this team.

 

[CMC122]

Don Kemp asked that the equipment be returned - then and there. No report of equipment being thrown at him. Obviously parents from the suspended team are unhappy that their children were "stripped" on the field on a chilly night. Just as obvious Don Kemp disagrees.

As a somewhat nuetral, ie I don't have a child playing in the league but I do have friends and coworkers who have been associated with the league, observer all I can say is that this story is deja vu all over again. Seems everytime there is an incident like this one or more of Don Kemp's realatives are involved. It was reported the coach of the Cowboys was his son. It was not reported who the officials were. If it was in fact another relative there is at least the appearance of a conflict of interest. If, as mentioned above, fouls were not being called I can understand how the Brown's might feel.

It's a shame and another black eye for youth football in the county.

The Brown's are still playing, it's the Bronco's who were suspended.

 

[CMC122]

This team had no disipline at all. The coach told the kids if you can't beat them, beat them up. That is a wonderful thing to say, and playing like that made a out of county team forfit. I went out to the parking lot and apologized to the coach, and he said we didn't come down here to fight. So this was a on-going thing with this team.

Our first game with the Bronco's the purposely took out a key player on our team that wasn't even part of the play. The kid got knocked pretty bad.


The parents on that team were also very aggressive. My daughter cheers and the parents were extremely rude and obnoxious to the girls when they did their little half time stint.

IMO good sportsmanship was not a part of that that teams game plan from the get go. So really I'm not surprised to hear of the weekends events.

 

[Msd_plumbing]

It was horrible. I think that the Kemp family is getting the raw end of the deal here. I haven't read the enterprise yet. But I just wan't the truth to come out. I was there seen it all happen. My husband got assaulted trying to hold a man at bay after he attacked the Cowboys coach. They do play dirty, and the parents are the ones getting me right now. These are middle school kids they should not be saying eff you or anything like that.

 

[smilin]

Amen

It was horrible. I think that the Kemp family is getting the raw end of the deal here. I haven't read the enterprise yet. But I just wan't the truth to come out. I was there seen it all happen. My husband got assaulted trying to hold a man at bay after he attacked the Cowboys coach. They do play dirty, and the parents are the ones getting me right now. These are middle school kids they should not be saying eff you or anything like that.

It is such a shame that we are forgetting who this league is supposed to be for. It's not for the parents, organizers or coaches - it is all purportedly for the KIDS.
These MS kids now have a great idea of how they should act when they get to High School. Most of the kids that I have seen in this league are bright enough that when they hear the language and see the misdeeds of the adults they get disgusted and walk away. They seem to have a better handle than some adults. What wonderful examples they have to follow.
Is it any wonder Keyshaun, T.O. and Deion are the cult figures they are?

 

[Msd_plumbing]

It is such a shame that we are forgetting who this league is supposed to be for. It's not for the parents, organizers or coaches - it is all purportedly for the KIDS.
These MS kids now have a great idea of how they should act when they get to High School. Most of the kids that I have seen in this league are bright enough that when they hear the language and see the misdeeds of the adults they get disgusted and walk away. They seem to have a better handle than some adults. What wonderful examples they have to follow.
Is it any wonder Keyshaun, T.O. and Deion are the cult figures they are?

I totally agree with you on that one. It is for the kids, and I can not wait in two more years I will finally have one playing pigskin football. I know his father will be so excited. It is a shame that it has to be like this and I feel sorry for the kids that actually wanted to play. But their teammates ruined that for them.

 

[smilin]

My kids have had a spectacular time and greatly benefited from football. I have tried to act as a buffer between them and the many idiots out there.
They have absorbed an awful lot from their coaches, team Moms and teammates over the years. Most was good, but the recurring theme has almost always been how to explain the actions of older kids and adults who should be the ones chastised for messing it up for everyone.
The one good thing about idiots and moronic behavior is it's a lot easier to point to out how you are not supposed to behave!

 

[Msd_plumbing]

I just read the enterprise, and everything stated was the truth... I just hope and pray that this blows over because with all that Don does for pigskin I am scared that it will go down hill without him next year. Then our kids wont have football.

 

[smilin]

Not good

I just read the enterprise, and everything stated was the truth... I just hope and pray that this blows over because with all that Don does for pigskin I am scared that it will go down hill without him next year. Then our kids wont have football.

This might be a blessing in disguise.
Maybe this might be a wake up call to do something before the whole league goes down the tubes. We have been involved for six seasons and as far back I can remember there has been grumblings about friction and favoritism. This has been directed in particular at Don's son Chris. Last year there was an official who claimed there was cheating going on and he was banned. The year before there was an altercation allegedly started by Chris.
The years before that there were more problems.
Take a look at how other leagues are organized and handled. The Pigskin league has grown so large and successful, no doubt through Don and Trudie's hard work that it needs to be modernized and brought into the present. To do that you need people to help you and you won't find many people volunteering to be called morons.
Nobody wants Don to step down or quit, but maybe he should have more of an open mind to others suggestions and comments.

 

[Msd_plumbing]

This might be a blessing in disguise.
Maybe this might be a wake up call to do something before the whole league goes down the tubes. We have been involved for six seasons and as far back I can remember there has been grumblings about friction and favoritism. This has been directed in particular at Don's son Chris. Last year there was an official who claimed there was cheating going on and he was banned. The year before there was an altercation allegedly started by Chris.
The years before that there were more problems.
Take a look at how other leagues are organized and handled. The Pigskin league has grown so large and successful, no doubt through Don and Trudie's hard work that it needs to be modernized and brought into the present. To do that you need people to help you and you won't find many people volunteering to be called morons.
Nobody wants Don to step down or quit, but maybe he should have more of an open mind to others suggestions and comments.

I know just what you are talking about. The coach I don't remember if he was banned but I do know he moved to a diferent state (he was an official too), later apologized and said he was wrong. Last year my BIL (a ref) got assaulted by a parent who came out on the field.

 

[smilin]

Depressing

I know just what you are talking about. The coach I don't remember if he was banned but I do know he moved to a diferent state (he was an official too), later apologized and said he was wrong. Last year my BIL (a ref) got assaulted by a parent who came out on the field.

Have you listened to the radio this morning? There wasn't much that was left unsaid.
Good grief what a mess. I t makes me sad to think that all the time my boys have been playing in this league (12 years total) will come across as a joke to anyone who hears the name St. Marys Pigskin. All the hard work by the coaches, players and some of the parents will be washed down the drain.
Sad to say that some times you should listen to others, which I haven't because I love sports and am willing to put up with the BS to allow my kids a chance to play.

 

[nomoney]

I just read the enterprise, and everything stated was the truth... I just hope and pray that this blows over because with all that Don does for pigskin I am scared that it will go down hill without him next year. Then our kids wont have football.

If he does leave is there something wrong with you as a parent, or any of the other parents stepping up to the plate and volunteering and spending the time to make sure their kids get the same type of league?

I think thats the problem with most, they're afraid that if don leaves there will be no league. :shrug:

 

[vraiblonde]

I don't see what the problem is here. Kids or parents get out of line and they are kicked off the team - end of story. I will suggest that getting rid of the bad apples and changing the reputation of the sport would encourage other youngesters to try out whose parents avoid it now.

Certainly there's someone at the head of St. Mary's Pigskin - they need to take charge and do the right thing.

 

[crabcake]

Certainly there's someone at the head of St. Mary's Pigskin - they need to take charge and do the right thing.

That would be Don Kemp ...

 

[vraiblonde]

Or is this Don person the head guy and that's the problem?

This story has been hard to follow.

 

[vraiblonde]

That would be Don Kemp ...

Okay, got it. The light came on right after I hit Submit on that last reply.

 

[nomoney]

Don's character comes across as a person having very little tact. It rubs most adults that know how to communicate with one another in a grown up fashion the wrong way. I think it's a cause of a lot of the hate and discontent with the league.

 

[vraiblonde]

Can someone please give me a thumbnail sketch of the situation? I'm interested but I'm not involved in Pigskin so I don't know who any of these people are.

Two teams were playing, one team got bent because they felt they were being cheated because the ref is related to the other team's coach, who happens to be the head of the league so there's nobody to complain to.


Is that right?

 

[crabcake]

It's two-part, really; the incident involving the teams, and Don Kemp. People have looooooooooooooong been complaining about the league's organization, communication, etc, which rests on his shoulders. I saw it the two years we were involved with cheerleading. Problem is, he's got the market cornered on it cuz my understanding is that he owns all the equipment as well. So if someone else is gonna take it on, they'll probably have to find a new supplier for all the equipment (uniforms), etc.

 

[nomoney]

Can someone please give me a thumbnail sketch of the situation? I'm interested but I'm not involved in Pigskin so I don't know who any of these people are.

Two teams were playing, one team got bent because they felt they were being cheated because the ref is related to the other team's coach, who happens to be the head of the league so there's nobody to complain to.


Is that right?

pretty much.