Starbucks $5M lawsuit over too much ice in its iced beverages

RoseRed

American Beauty
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When I make my tea, I pour refrigerated tea in to my (water) bottle half-way and freeze that bottle until it's frozen solid. Then I remove it from the freezer when solid and top it off with more refrigerated tea. That way, my tea is ice cold all day long.

So, what am I drinking: Iced tea or ice tea?

I must try this. I always have tea in the fridge at home and get it at work. At work, if the tea is still hot and it melts most of the ice, I just ask for a bit more to cool it down more. When it's time for a refill, I usually still have ice left.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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then order it with no ice and drink it warm :shrug:

its 24oz of iced coffee for god's sake, not 24 oz of coffee with additional ice.

wow you are ignorant ....

how about chilling it over ice, then straining it out like a mixed drink at a bar
 
I always call it ice tea, but that's because I'm too lazy to pronounce the 'd'. Just easier to say. If it's cold and it has ice in it, I don't really care what you call it.
 
I always call it ice tea, but that's because I'm too lazy to pronounce the 'd'. Just easier to say. If it's cold and it has ice in it, I don't really care what you call it.

I'd never even considered the distinction until this thread. :lol:
 

Midnightrider

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wow you are ignorant ....

how about chilling it over ice, then straining it out like a mixed drink at a bar

maybe you can point to any establishment that prepares iced tea or coffee that way unless you specifcially ask them to. funny how you idiots want to redefine iced tea and coffee and then call others ignorant.
 
I'd never even considered the distinction until this thread. :lol:

What's even more odd is that I say iced coffee, not ice coffee. It's ice tea and iced coffee, simply because of the way it slides off the tongue. The nuance of of how it's made and why it's different really doesn't matter.
 
What's even more odd is that I say iced coffee, not ice coffee. It's ice tea and iced coffee, simply because of the way it slides off the tongue. The nuance of of how it's made and why it's different really doesn't matter.

Yeah, it's just a phonetics issue. When a consonant formed in a given place ends a word and then one formed in the same place starts the next word, the first consonant kinda gets dropped. D and T are formed in the same place, D and K (from coffee) are not. So in the latter case the D sound will tend to be more noticeable.

When I say iced tea it does sound a lot like ice tea. But in my mind iced tea is what I'm saying and I guess I've just always assumed that's what others were saying, even though it sounds a lot like ice tea for common phonetic reasons.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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Also, I didn't realize that some people refer to it as ice tea. .

In the south they call it "ice tea" - actually it's "ass tay".

But that's beside the point. If this gal can get me a $10 Starbucks gift card, I'm on her team.
 
In the south they call it "ice tea" - actually it's "ass tay".

But that's beside the point. If this gal can get me a $10 Starbucks gift card, I'm on her team.

I spent a lot of time in the South as a yut, and I'd agree that the way it's spoken sounds like ice tea. But is that just a phonetics issue (as I mentioned in the previous post) or are they thinking of it as ice tea. I guess what I'm asking is, if they write it down would it be spelled iced tea or ice tea. I don't recall seeing it written down or on a menu (when I was in the South).

As for that Starbucks gift card, I think the more likely effect (if there is any) will be that Starbucks starts specifying somehow that the listed size is the size of the cup.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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I spent a lot of time in the South as a yut, and I'd agree that the way it's spoken sounds like ice tea. But is that just a phonetics issue (as I mentioned in the previous post) or are they thinking of it as ice tea. I guess what I'm asking is, if they write it down would it be spelled iced tea or ice tea. I don't recall seeing it written down or on a menu (when I was in the South).

As for that Starbucks gift card, I think the more likely effect (if there is any) will be that Starbucks starts specifying somehow that the listed size is the size of the cup.

They also say "ass cawfay", and on menus it's spelled "ice tea". When we roll through Mississippi I'll take a pic and post it.

And I'm sure Starbucks, being the liberal nozzles they are, will find a way to not be as cool as the Redbull people. Lefties are always corporate moneygrubbers trying to screw the little guy. I still think my idea of coffee ice cubes is a winner.
 
They also say "ass cawfay", and on menus it's spelled "ice tea". When we roll through Mississippi I'll take a pic and post it.

And I'm sure Starbucks, being the liberal nozzles they are, will find a way to not be as cool as the Redbull people. Lefties are always corporate moneygrubbers trying to screw the little guy. I still think my idea of coffee ice cubes is a winner.

No need to do that, I believe you. I just don't recall seeing it written myself.

As for the coffe ice cubes, that would be one way to do it. I do that with sodas sometimes. Or I might mix flavors that way - e.g., put cherry soda ice cubes in warm coke.

But for a number of reasons that I can think of it might be better for Starbucks to do it they way it does. I don't drink iced coffee (I don't drink coffee at all, except for an occasional cappuccino type thingy), but when I drink iced tea I sometimes like to pour hot tea over ice cubes and drink it right away. In that way it creates a different sensation in your mouth, the hot liquid quickly melts some of the ice and there's a subtle mixing of warm and cold liquids - it hasn't all found a temperature equilibrium yet.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Also, I think most reasonable people understand that the advertised size of a beverage refers to the size of the container and not to the exact amount of fluid that they will be getting.



and I though reasonable people understood a 19 inch computer display isn't 19 inches on a side, but measured diagonally and not a true 19 inch - but 18.something
and I though reasonable people understood a computer hard drive was not 10 or 20 or 100 gb formatted - or that a megabyte was as listed wasn't 1024 to the 2nd power but rounded down to a generic 1000





both were the subject of class action lawsuits
 
and I though reasonable people understood a 19 inch computer display isn't 19 inches on a side, but measured diagonally and not a true 19 inch - but 18.something
and I though reasonable people understood a computer hard drive was not 10 or 20 or 100 gb formatted - or that a megabyte was as listed wasn't 1024 to the 2nd power but rounded down to a generic 1000





both were the subject of class action lawsuits

I don't think as many people do understand those things as understand that a bevarage's size refers to the size of the cup rather than how much liquid is in it exclusive of ice. But, yeah, they're still fairly well understood - at least the former one is. As for the latter? I think there are lots of people that don't get the different ways of measuring file / memory sizes.

And when it comes to the former, the class actions that I've found related to the size of the screen not actually being what was listed, not to the listed size being the diagonal rather than the length of a side. Are you familiar with class actions (that were successful) where the claim was that it was some sort of false advertising because customers thought that a size referred to the length of a side? There's a meaningful difference between a monitor with a 14" (viewable) diagonal and one with a 15" diagonal. In some cases the assertion was that there was an even bigger difference between the listed size and actual size - enough to make the viewable area of the monitor 20 or 30% smaller than what the listed size would mean. And I do not think it's fair to say that most people understood a given diagonal measurement to refer to the size of the screen including the portion which couldn't be seen because it was under the bezel. I think most people would have thought the size referred to the diagonal measured between the bezels.
 
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