Stewart Smith Bull$hit

[gumbo]

Stewart blocks high, then Stewart blocks low and runs Smith off track.

Then Smith wins..But Stewart wins because he knocks Smith off of track.


Bull$hit, Bull$hit, Bull$hit

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Like I said, that one will be debated for ages.

We just had a finish for the history books.

 

[homedepot20]

Stewart blocks high, then Stewart blocks low and runs Smith off track.

Then Smith wins..But Stewart wins because he knocks Smith off of track.


Bull$hit, Bull$hit, Bull$hit

Stewart Won Righty - You CAN NOT Pass and advance below the yellow line

 

[toppick08]

Stewart blocks high, then Stewart blocks low and runs Smith off track.

Then Smith wins..But Stewart wins because he knocks Smith off of track.


Bull$hit, Bull$hit, Bull$hit

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Stewart Won Righty - You CAN NOT Pass and advance below the yellow line

You cannot force anyone below the yellow line.

And now NASCAR's taken his best career finish away from him and moved him to 18th.

NASCAR.COM

 

[Tilted]

You cannot force anyone below the yellow line.

He wasn't forced below the line, he was blocked. There's a very clear technical distinction as it regards the yellow line rule.

In order to have been 'forced down' Regan would have had to been under Tony (i.e. his nose was ahead of Tony's back bumper) BEFORE he crossed the yellow line. If you look at the video, it is clear that Regan's left tires crossed below the yellow line before his nose got ahead of Tony's bumper; therefore, he couldn't have been 'forced down' there.

In Nascar you have the right to block someone behind you. When someone blocks you, you can either stay behind them or find another way around. If you are on a track using the yellow line rule and someone blocks the lowest lane, your only option is to go above them. You can't simply use an illegal lane below the yellow line.

Some people may think of blocking someone and forcing someone down as the same thing, and some people may not be able to grasp the difference between the two, but as it relates to this rule they are very different. You can disagree with the rule if you want, but it was enforced correctly in this case.

The only determination NASCAR had to make in this case was which came first - Regan's tires crossing the yellow line or Regan's nose getting ahead of Tony's bumper. They got it right.

 

[Nanny Pam]

He wasn't forced below the line, he was blocked. There's a very clear technical distinction as it regards the yellow line rule.

In order to have been 'forced down' Regan would have had to been under Tony (i.e. his nose was ahead of Tony's back bumper) BEFORE he crossed the yellow line. If you look at the video, it is clear that Regan's left tires crossed below the yellow line before his nose got ahead of Tony's bumper; therefore, he couldn't have been 'forced down' there.

In Nascar you have the right to block someone behind you. When someone blocks you, you can either stay behind them or find another way around. If you are on a track using the yellow line rule and someone blocks the lowest lane, your only option is to go above them. You can't simply use an illegal lane below the yellow line.

Some people may think of blocking someone and forcing someone down as the same thing, and some people may not be able to grasp the difference between the two, but as it relates to this rule they are very different. You can disagree with the rule if you want, but it was enforced correctly in this case.

The only determination NASCAR had to make in this case was which came first - Regan's tires crossing the yellow line or Regan's nose getting ahead of Tony's bumper.

well said.

 

[Dutch6]

He wasn't forced below the line, he was blocked. There's a very clear technical distinction as it regards the yellow line rule.

In order to have been 'forced down' Regan would have had to been under Tony (i.e. his nose was ahead of Tony's back bumper) BEFORE he crossed the yellow line. If you look at the video, it is clear that Regan's left tires crossed below the yellow line before his nose got ahead of Tony's bumper; therefore, he couldn't have been 'forced down' there.

In Nascar you have the right to block someone behind you. When someone blocks you, you can either stay behind them or find another way around. If you are on a track using the yellow line rule and someone blocks the lowest lane, your only option is to go above them. You can't simply use an illegal lane below the yellow line.

Some people may think of blocking someone and forcing someone down as the same thing, and some people may not be able to grasp the difference between the two, but as it relates to this rule they are very different. You can disagree with the rule if you want, but it was enforced correctly in this case.

The only determination NASCAR had to make in this case was which came first - Regan's tires crossing the yellow line or Regan's nose getting ahead of Tony's bumper.

You're wasting your time.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Go back and watch the video mouthbreather. Stewart blocked high, Smith went low and Stewart slammed him below the yellow line.

And do you know what the rule is?

If so, please post it in it's entirety as read in the NASCAR rulebook.

TIA.

You're ignored.

 

[Dutch6]

Go back and watch the video mouthbreather. Stewart blocked high, Smith went low and Stewart slammed him below the yellow line.



You're ignored.

Just the response I expected.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Just the response I expected.

1:26, Junyer passes Kenseth BELOW THE YELLOW LINE! Enjoy and have a glass of STFU with that!

Here. From FOX:



I'm done here.

 

[Dutch6]

1:26, Junyer passes Kenseth BELOW THE YELLOW LINE! Enjoy and have a glass of STFU with that!

Here. From FOX:



I'm done here.

The 8 was door to door with the 17 and was forced below the yellow line you idiot! What Smith did was a rookie mistake. You are right about one thing though, you are done here.

 

[Johnll]

The 8 was door to door with the 17 and was forced below the yellow line you idiot! What Smith did was a rookie mistake. You are right about one thing though, you are done here.

I agree, not even close with the comparison.

 

[Tilted]

1:26, Junyer passes Kenseth BELOW THE YELLOW LINE!

Do you honestly still not understand the difference? Junior was UNDER Kenseth long before he crossed the yellow line. That means he was 'forced down'. That's the video of the Junior pass I was referring to in the other thread.

Seriously, you posted a video link that proved our points, and demonstrated why you are wrong.

You obviously don't understand the difference between the racing terms 'being under someone' and 'being behind someone'.

If you are under someone, you can get forced down.
If you are behind someone, you can get blocked.

well said.

Thank You.

You're wasting your time.

Clearly, you are right.

 

[gumbo]

He wasn't forced below the line, he was blocked. There's a very clear technical distinction as it regards the yellow line rule.

In order to have been 'forced down' Regan would have had to been under Tony (i.e. his nose was ahead of Tony's back bumper) BEFORE he crossed the yellow line. If you look at the video, it is clear that Regan's left tires crossed below the yellow line before his nose got ahead of Tony's bumper; therefore, he couldn't have been 'forced down' there.

In Nascar you have the right to block someone behind you. When someone blocks you, you can either stay behind them or find another way around. If you are on a track using the yellow line rule and someone blocks the lowest lane, your only option is to go above them. You can't simply use an illegal lane below the yellow line.

Some people may think of blocking someone and forcing someone down as the same thing, and some people may not be able to grasp the difference between the two, but as it relates to this rule they are very different. You can disagree with the rule if you want, but it was enforced correctly in this case.

The only determination NASCAR had to make in this case was which came first - Regan's tires crossing the yellow line or Regan's nose getting ahead of Tony's bumper. They got it right.

Your blind.. If Smith didn't move below the line, him and Stewart would have wrecked. Ive seen finishes where driver went down through the grass, came back out on the track and won.

 

[gumbo]

The 8 was door to door with the 17 and was forced below the yellow line you idiot! What Smith did was a rookie mistake. You are right about one thing though, you are done here.

Thank you Dutch.. I was looking for that.

 

[MMDad]

some people may not be able to grasp the difference between the two,

By "some people" it is evident you mean "Andy."

For someone who thinks he's a "reporter" his lack of knowledge is amazing.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Your blind.. If Smith didn't move below the line, him and Stewart would have wrecked. Ive seen finishes where driver went down through the grass, came back out on the track and won.

Earnhardt.

The yellow-line rule needs to go, especially after this one. Hearing NASCAR say you have to make the pass to the outside is like hearing Brian Barnhart say you have to stay in a lane during the IRL races.



At best, this was another example of why ARCA Racing is the best form of racing in America.

 

[Sweet 16]

And now NASCAR's taken his best career finish away from him and moved him to 18th.

NASCAR.COM

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

The Frontstretch: Matt McLaughlin's Thinkin' Out Loud: Amp Energy 500 by Matt McLaughlin -- Monday October 6, 2008

Yes, there’s a rule that states a driver may not advance his position at the plate tracks by passing under the yellow line. There’s also a rule that states a driver may not force another driver “out of bounds.” But more than once, NASCAR has stated a de facto “anything goes” policy on the last lap of the plate races. Should Stewart have been penalized? Should Smith have been given the win? If Smith had lifted out of the gas to let Stewart back by and drifted back up on the track, it might have set off another huge wreck and we’d have likely seen only one car finish the race (the 20). After the Daytona Truck Series race last February, a NASCAR spokesperson defended Johnny Benson’s “below the line” pass to take second by saying, “if you can see the checkered flag on the last lap, anything goes.” Anything but passing the driver of the “Official Home Improvement Center of NASCAR,” it would seem…

Jimmie Johnson himself stated that the drivers were told at their pre-race meeting on Sunday that with the checkers in sight, “anything goes.” I can’t help but feel Regan Smith got robbed. Being demoted to the last driver to finish on the lead lap (at least, that’s how the results read at this is being written) just rubs salt in that wound.

Regan Smith won this race.