Stolen Tanker Truck

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vegmom

Bookseller Lady
I have a couple relatives that work for larger trucking companies that have GPS units on their rigs. That would have to be a nice handy-dandy tool for law enforcement.

Wonder if it will eventually become a requirment for hazmat trucks?

My dad works at DOT- I'll have to ask if he's heard anything.
 
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Inkpen

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Larry Gude said:
...off the top of my head;

Someone who wanted to see what the response was to a stolen, loaded tanker.

Someone who was planning on using it as a weapon and wanted to see what the response was to a stolen, loaded tanker.
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Larry has an very good point here...

One man interviewed ( the driver?) said the masked man asked what kind of fuel was in the taner and the reply was heating fuel.
The masked man said "that will do". and stole the truck.

If it were a drill, a test of our response to stolen fule truck, it would not matter what was in the tanker.

Just like the bombings of the So. Aferican Embasseys...it was a test to see how the terriost teams could coordinate an attack. We ignored that event until after 9-11.

I would hope this is all wrong and it was just some dude that got rich quick....so now you look for a random tanker with 7100 gallons of heating fuel selling it cheap.....
 
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dems4me

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bresamil said:
I think Larry hit the nail on the head.

This was "testing the waters". Notes taken, lessons captured.
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:yeahthat: Or it could have been the protestors stealing it for the IMF protests in DC this weekend and ughhhh... Monday too. :faint: Our response was terrible.
 
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vegmom

Bookseller Lady
They found that the fuel (Diesel) was offloaded at a gas station. They pumped the fuel back out of the holding tank.

WTF? Stealing fuel to sell to a gas station? Not too bright and idea- too easy to trace.
 
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tikipirate

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Someone above (I think it was Larry Gude) asked about GPS tracking systems on trucks.

I know that OnStar is now introducing an engine cut-off system to foil car thieves. That originally didn't sound like too good of an idea to me, because when the motor is killed, so is the power steering, and one only has one more shot at the power brakes. I would rather see a car thief get away than see him skid into a minivan full of a loving family.

For the trucks, however, there could be a variety of methods. The best would probably be a hidden Bluetooth transmitter somewhere on the driver's person. Once the Bluetooth link is lost, the truck fires irreversible charges that closes the fuel line and opens the air lines, engaging the brakes.
 
Larry Gude

Larry Gude

Strung Out
And just how...

tikipirate said:
Someone above (I think it was Larry Gude) asked about GPS tracking systems on trucks.

I know that OnStar is now introducing an engine cut-off system to foil car thieves. That originally didn't sound like too good of an idea to me, because when the motor is killed, so is the power steering, and one only has one more shot at the power brakes. I would rather see a car thief get away than see him skid into a minivan full of a loving family.

For the trucks, however, there could be a variety of methods. The best would probably be a hidden Bluetooth transmitter somewhere on the driver's person. Once the Bluetooth link is lost, the truck fires irreversible charges that closes the fuel line and opens the air lines, engaging the brakes.
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...reliable is a blue tooth link? And how long before thief's catch on and demand the device while they are throwing you out of the truck? And I'd rather a Caddy go skidding into the mini van than a semi crashing into a school yard.
 
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residentofcre

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vegmom said:
They found that the fuel (Diesel) was offloaded at a gas station. They pumped the fuel back out of the holding tank.

WTF? Stealing fuel to sell to a gas station? Not too bright and idea- too easy to trace.
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Pumping gas out of a holding tank is a really difficult thing to do... are we sure this thread is on the up and up?

Most of the trucks delivering fuel to gas stations are gravity fed... In order to "pump" the fuel out of the holding tank they would have required something to reverse the flow of gravity... what was it?

Just asking... I have quartermaster training from Fort Lee VA in fuel distribution.... but it has been a few years... is there some new technology on those gravity fed trucks?
 
MMDad

MMDad

Lem Putt
Larry Gude said:
...reliable is a blue tooth link? And how long before thief's catch on and demand the device while they are throwing you out of the truck? And I'd rather a Caddy go skidding into the mini van than a semi crashing into a school yard.
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Bluetooth has different power levels up to 100 mW, which gives a range of about 100 meters. Go inside a building, especially a metal building, and the link is lost.

You're right to be skeptical about this idea, Larry.
 
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