Subsidy gone wrong

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
Same thing with the Aptera, and many other EV owners. Huge restrictions on battery sourcing and assembly, and final assembly of the vehicle, which must be in the US.

The Aptera is not eligible for the rebate because it has 3 wheels, and not 4, in spite of it's battery range, environmentally smart choices of construction materials, solar cells, ....
Why are taxpayer dollars/credits going to ANY of them??
Good point. It's another push to get EVs mainstream, but is so specific as to the manufacturers that the subsidy supports that it's meaningless. EVs should progress naturally, not be forced into existence.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Why are taxpayer dollars/credits going to ANY of them??

Because democrats and lobbying. They should be able to stand on their own. Tesla and GM been doing that for a couple of years now.

I would say I would have to go with the one in the left

And thats a choice, but its silly as hell to give someone $7500 for that choice.
Same thing with the Aptera, and many other EV owners. Huge restrictions on battery sourcing and assembly, and final assembly of the vehicle, which must be in the US.

The Aptera is not eligible for the rebate because it has 3 wheels, and not 4, in spite of it's battery range, environmentally smart choices of construction materials, solar cells, ....

Good point. It's another push to get EVs mainstream, but is so specific as to the manufacturers that the subsidy supports that it's meaningless. EVs should progress naturally, not be forced into existence.

I think they delayed the battery sourcing requirements for a year or two simply becuase virtually nobody can meet them immediately.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Because democrats and lobbying. They should be able to stand on their own. Tesla and GM been doing that for a couple of years now.
I think I should get some kinda subsidy for driving my '78 Bronco that gets 6 mpg....I wonder who I need to talk to?
 

glhs837

Power with Control
You got Historic tags?

That could be a subsidy :)
If EV vehicles are such a great deal, they wouldn't have to offer any incentives to purchase them.

Good ones don't. But that doesn't stop the UAW and legacy makers from buying legislation to help sell them. Tesla went over the 200K cap back in 2020 and lost the US tax credit, yet deliveries have done this......
Tesla deliveries.jpg
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Not a legal one, though. And the state has been cracking down on the misuse of that registration....

Have they though? I think on the misuse of it for commercial purposes, the "immigrant" with a 1987 E-350 with 1.5 tons of ladders resting on the gutter rails. Jimmy the Junkman with his 93 F-One Fiddy with a cut up mobile home frame strapped down with bungees cords hanging out the back. Pretty sure when I get the 98 328 vert back on the road I wont get a sideways glance..
 

PrchJrkr

Long Haired Country Boy
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Sure have. Couple friends of mine were nailed for using the Classic tags on their daily drivers and forced to get them inspected and standard registration. I've never felt the need to cheat.
Two out of my three registered vehicles "could" be tagged historic. I choose to not do so for this very reason. I would be embarrassed to death if I got popped for this. I see newer looking cars than mine representing as historic. When the hell will a 1996 Toyota Corolla ever be a historic vehicle? This chaps my ass. You just know it won't pass inspection.
 

DaSDGuy

Well-Known Member
Sure have. Couple friends of mine were nailed for using the Classic tags on their daily drivers and forced to get them inspected and standard registration. I've never felt the need to cheat.
Make a daily trip to the auto parts store, buy something cheap and keep the receipt. Trips to the auto parts store are exempt.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
If EV vehicles are such a great deal, they wouldn't have to offer any incentives to purchase them.
I'm a very strong believer in "build a better mousetrap and the world will BEAT A PATH to your door".
Cars were amusements for the rich - until someone figured out a way to make a dirt simple car cost something everyone could afford.

Find a way to make these cars very low frills but at dirt cheap prices - and people will buy them. People already buy electric gators and golf carts just for fun - my mom had one for very short trips.

I am not sure I would ever buy one, because I am likely to always live in an area where a more rugged vehicle is required - where it's cold, remote, on a hill, somewhere a snob-mobile is never likely to do well. But I see people in cities already scooting around on little electric scooters - make it useful, reliable and affordable, and you don't need subsidies.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Two out of my three registered vehicles "could" be tagged historic. I choose to not do so for this very reason. I would be embarrassed to death if I got popped for this. I see newer looking cars than mine representing as historic. When the hell will a 1996 Toyota Corolla ever be a historic vehicle? This chaps my ass. You just know it won't pass inspection.
When (if?..LOL) I get the '59 TR3 and/or the '57 Jeep FC-150 roadworthy, I'll go with the historic tags. I had Permanent Historic on my '47 Harley..that was nice. One and done..no expiration and no annual registration fee. I still have my '69 Bronco registered with regular tags...probably keep it that way.
 
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