Larry Gude
Strung Out
As...
...we go to alternatives, oil and coal will become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. That means MILLIONS of more cars around the globe as economies that simply can not afford nukes and solar and wind and hi end technologies will, naturally, use what makes sense.
This will also be the case as other nations and peoples add power plants and heat things and develop industries.
If you have a reasonable knowledge of human history, you'll notice a pattern of war being fought over wealth, resources and spheres of influence and power over the wealth and the resources.
If we are going to stand by and accept paying the equivalent of $4 a gallon gas and $150 a barrel oil to employ alternatives, we will not only be competing with nations that have fractional labor costs compared to us, but also energy costs a sixth or less than our own. It has been hard enough to absorb the labor disparity. Add energy to that and you should readily be able to see catastrophic US job loss.
You speak of accepting the massive artificial inflation of energy costs as a mere choice of long term good over short term discomfort. Well, add to that the massive artificial inflation in food and consumer goods coupled with less and less jobs. We're talking a collapse in exports and becoming, like Great Britain, a nation near totally dependent on imports. They are so because they are small. We would become so out of political choice. You're building a neighborhood that few will be able to afford to live in.
Now, the natural response to these sorts of threats over the years has been war. If we avoid war. We die. Or, at minimum, we are at the mercy of the nations of the world in a reverse of poverty much like a rich man who can not do anything for himself but shuffle paper; he pays others for everything and to do everything.
Now, your response will be, naturally, that we will be world leaders and everyone else will buy our great products. That is, of course, absurd.
Is India going to buy a $50,000 wonder car from us or a $5,000 internal combustion machine that also costs a fraction to operate?
Will anyone else put up nuke plants or carbon plants costing fractions to operate?
Oil has dropped nearly $40 a barrel because of slight demand decrease. If we, using of 25% of the daily global output, stop, oil will be under $25 a barrel, if that. And the carbon economy will EXPLODE around the world as
simple economics take hold.
You continue to clean up as regular part of progress and you study the potential problem - you are correct, we can't do anything about what the earth was already going to do, but why the hell would you want to screw with it beyond that point?
How is more nuclear plants going to lead us to war? EV's? nope. Actually, changing our economy from oil and goal to renewables, as we can, would strengthen our economy as more money would stay here. Yes, we could do that with our own oil and coal, but you do know, oil and coal spew other gasses that are classified by the EPA as toxic?
Tell me how more solar, nuclear, hydro, wind and others TBD will lead us to war? you are fear-mongering, plain and simple. How will EV's using new, non 'chemical' batteries leed to war? Where is all your war fears and economy woe fears coming from?
...we go to alternatives, oil and coal will become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. That means MILLIONS of more cars around the globe as economies that simply can not afford nukes and solar and wind and hi end technologies will, naturally, use what makes sense.
This will also be the case as other nations and peoples add power plants and heat things and develop industries.
If you have a reasonable knowledge of human history, you'll notice a pattern of war being fought over wealth, resources and spheres of influence and power over the wealth and the resources.
If we are going to stand by and accept paying the equivalent of $4 a gallon gas and $150 a barrel oil to employ alternatives, we will not only be competing with nations that have fractional labor costs compared to us, but also energy costs a sixth or less than our own. It has been hard enough to absorb the labor disparity. Add energy to that and you should readily be able to see catastrophic US job loss.
You speak of accepting the massive artificial inflation of energy costs as a mere choice of long term good over short term discomfort. Well, add to that the massive artificial inflation in food and consumer goods coupled with less and less jobs. We're talking a collapse in exports and becoming, like Great Britain, a nation near totally dependent on imports. They are so because they are small. We would become so out of political choice. You're building a neighborhood that few will be able to afford to live in.
Now, the natural response to these sorts of threats over the years has been war. If we avoid war. We die. Or, at minimum, we are at the mercy of the nations of the world in a reverse of poverty much like a rich man who can not do anything for himself but shuffle paper; he pays others for everything and to do everything.
Now, your response will be, naturally, that we will be world leaders and everyone else will buy our great products. That is, of course, absurd.
Is India going to buy a $50,000 wonder car from us or a $5,000 internal combustion machine that also costs a fraction to operate?
Will anyone else put up nuke plants or carbon plants costing fractions to operate?
Oil has dropped nearly $40 a barrel because of slight demand decrease. If we, using of 25% of the daily global output, stop, oil will be under $25 a barrel, if that. And the carbon economy will EXPLODE around the world as
simple economics take hold.