Talkin' Turkey...

Larry Gude

Strung Out
...because I left the TV on all night I have a vague recollection of a cooking show and the guy put the turkey in a salt and sugar and garlic and some other stuff brine for 12 hours before cooking it. Supposed to make it uber moist.

Anyone done this? Like it? Recommend it? Not that I'm actually gonna, but it was interesting and sounds good.

:buddies:
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
...because I left the TV on all night I have a vague recollection of a cooking show and the guy put the turkey in a salt and sugar and garlic and some other stuff brine for 12 hours before cooking it. Supposed to make it uber moist.

Anyone done this? Like it? Recommend it? Not that I'm actually gonna, but it was interesting and sounds good.

:buddies:

Ott does it and it really makes a difference. I'll let him chime in...
 

Otter

Nothing to see here
...because I left the TV on all night I have a vague recollection of a cooking show and the guy put the turkey in a salt and sugar and garlic and some other stuff brine for 12 hours before cooking it. Supposed to make it uber moist.

Anyone done this? Like it? Recommend it? Not that I'm actually gonna, but it was interesting and sounds good.

:buddies:

Tons of great brining recipes out on the web, trying to remember what I did last year..Turkey turned out VERY moist and had a great taste..Think the recipe was kinda like what you posted, but there were some off the wall spices/herb thrown into the mix too. All is takes is trying it one time and you'll never cook a turkey again without brining.
 

SShewbert

What love is all about
Ok we have the turkey out and thawing. When do you start the brining process? I am thinking of talking my mom into doing that this year.
 
...because I left the TV on all night I have a vague recollection of a cooking show and the guy put the turkey in a salt and sugar and garlic and some other stuff brine for 12 hours before cooking it. Supposed to make it uber moist.

Anyone done this? Like it? Recommend it? Not that I'm actually gonna, but it was interesting and sounds good.

:buddies:

Absolutely. I've even taken to brining chicken before I cook it, pieces or whole. Really good to brine chicken wings before a deep fry.
 
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Wenchy

Guest
Ok we have the turkey out and thawing. When do you start the brining process? I am thinking of talking my mom into doing that this year.

12 hours or so before. If it's cool enough outside, just place the turkey in a plastic bag w/brine outside in a cooler (I used to do it inside a trash bag, but that's now a nono...so use an approved plastic bag)....otherwise do it in the refrigerator.

I use kosher salt and brown sugar. 1 cup of each added to 2 gallons of cold water. Stir to dissolve. You can add herbs and citrus but the salt and brown sugar do the trick. (thyme, rosemary and oranges, lemons if you want to get fancy)
 
...nope. Just saw his picture; not him.
I think I saw the same show you did... it was "Thanksgiving Disasters". The show had a woman on it that cooked a turkey all night long and it was still undercooked the next day so she threw it in the microwave and turned it to "rubber". The cooking dude with the spikey hair showed a woman how to make two different brines.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
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I think I saw the same show you did... it was "Thanksgiving Disasters". The show had a woman on it that cooked a turkey all night long and it was still undercooked the next day so she threw it in the microwave and turned it to "rubber". The cooking dude with the spikey hair showed a woman how to make two different brines.

...nope.

The cooking dude was a normal looking Joe. He did the brine thing then a normal looking gal did her turkey sticking lemon and orange wedges inside the bird along with some whole sage and rosemary sprigs and then she did a rub with butter and olive oil and all spice and something else...

No spikey people.
 
I think I saw the same show you did... it was "Thanksgiving Disasters". The show had a woman on it that cooked a turkey all night long and it was still undercooked the next day so she threw it in the microwave and turned it to "rubber". The cooking dude with the spikey hair showed a woman how to make two different brines.

? What temp did she cook it at? 125* ?? :lmao:
 
...nope.

The cooking dude was a normal looking Joe. He did the brine thing then a normal looking gal did her turkey sticking lemon and orange wedges inside the bird along with some whole sage and rosemary sprigs and then she did a rub with butter and olive oil and all spice and something else...

No spikey people.

Hmmm... then might I offer up my fav turkey recipe...

You get thick sliced turkey breast from the deli. Cook up some Stove top stuffing following the directions on the box. Roll the stuffing in the center of each slice of turkey making a "turkey roll up". Place them in a 13 x 9 cooking dish, cover with a jar or two of turkey gravy.... and waaaaalaaaa... Thanksgiving dinner all in one dish. :smile:
 

Rael

Supper's Ready
...because I left the TV on all night I have a vague recollection of a cooking show and the guy put the turkey in a salt and sugar and garlic and some other stuff brine for 12 hours before cooking it. Supposed to make it uber moist.

Anyone done this? Like it? Recommend it? Not that I'm actually gonna, but it was interesting and sounds good.

:buddies:

Bump - from just having researched and completing this today. Can't talk about brining turkeys per se, but just finished a brined pork loin roast. Will most definitely brine preparing the next poultry meal, also.

I've found there are a few variables on brining that range from type of meat (some need less time than others), size, leanness of the cut, salt/liquid ratio, type of salt, temperature, and the proper amount of time (and method) to brine.

My understanding is that brining forces the meat to absorb water through osmosis, thereby making it a much more juicy meat (especially with a lean cut like center cut pork loin, for example).

After researching several web pages which appeared to have some level of expertise on the subject, I first figured out that I wanted to brine it overnight, and not just for 7 or 8 hours. I used a mixture of 3/4 cup kosher salt (not table salt, that's heavier than kosher and could throw off the ratio) to a gallon of liquid. Ended up brining for around 18 hours and did not taste over-salted at all.

And as long as we're forcing the meat to absorb, I figured, why not put a little flavor in there while we're at it? Half of the liquid was water and half was chicken stock. To counter the potential for over saltiness, I matched the amount of salt to sweet with a combination of maple syrup, apple jelly, and brown sugar (3/4 cup total). A small amount of peppercorns, thyme, and crushed red pepper (1 Tbsp total or so), and made sure the roast was completely submerged (I learned to cover the roast with a heavy plate to make sure it stays under the whole time).

The other challenge is (of course) cooking it without re-drying it out (easy to dry out a lean cut). I took it out at around 143 degrees and let it rest covered for 15 minutes or so. Damn, that was friggin' delicious. Never had a pork loin so juicy before.

Totally recommend giving this a go. Can't wait to try this with turkey or chicken. :yay: :yay:
 
I am thinking of trying some Cornish game hens soaked in an apple juice/citrus mix with salt for something a bit different.
 

acommondisaster

Active Member
Bump - from just having researched and completing this today. Can't talk about brining turkeys per se, but just finished a brined pork loin roast. Will most definitely brine preparing the next poultry meal, also.

I've found there are a few variables on brining that range from type of meat (some need less time than others), size, leanness of the cut, salt/liquid ratio, type of salt, temperature, and the proper amount of time (and method) to brine.

My understanding is that brining forces the meat to absorb water through osmosis, thereby making it a much more juicy meat (especially with a lean cut like center cut pork loin, for example).

After researching several web pages which appeared to have some level of expertise on the subject, I first figured out that I wanted to brine it overnight, and not just for 7 or 8 hours. I used a mixture of 3/4 cup kosher salt (not table salt, that's heavier than kosher and could throw off the ratio) to a gallon of liquid. Ended up brining for around 18 hours and did not taste over-salted at all.

And as long as we're forcing the meat to absorb, I figured, why not put a little flavor in there while we're at it? Half of the liquid was water and half was chicken stock. To counter the potential for over saltiness, I matched the amount of salt to sweet with a combination of maple syrup, apple jelly, and brown sugar (3/4 cup total). A small amount of peppercorns, thyme, and crushed red pepper (1 Tbsp total or so), and made sure the roast was completely submerged (I learned to cover the roast with a heavy plate to make sure it stays under the whole time).

The other challenge is (of course) cooking it without re-drying it out (easy to dry out a lean cut). I took it out at around 143 degrees and let it rest covered for 15 minutes or so. Damn, that was friggin' delicious. Never had a pork loin so juicy before.

Totally recommend giving this a go. Can't wait to try this with turkey or chicken. :yay: :yay:

Cooks Illustrated does an awful lot of brining of meat; if you don't already subscribe, you might want to browse through their magazine sometime. I think their approach to cooking would appeal to you.

That said, I'd love to try brining a pork roast in some spices and apple cider. I may try that next weekend. As far as brining turkeys go, I used a recipe for years from Bon Appetit that brined in apple cider, kosher salt and spices for a couple of days then the turkey was covered in cheesecloth and let "dry" in the fridge for about 24 hours before cooking.

The result was the juiciest, tenderest, moistest turkey I'd ever eaten - the down side was awful skin, no matter what the cooking method (1. high temp for 30 minutes, to average oven for remainder,2. low temp for duration, 3. average temp for duration). The other downside was the oddly sweet gravy that resulted from the turkey juices after being brined in apple cider. I don't remember how it affected the stuffing, just that the gravy was weird.

I've given up on brining turkeys. As much as I love cooking and preparation, it was just too much work for mixed returns. We're back to roasting turkey now and I use Ina Gartens Perfect Roast Turkey recipe. Everyone's happy and the turkey's delicious and moist - no one misses whatever was gained with the brined turkey and the skin lovers and gravy soppers are happy again. I've become an Ina convert - basic really does seem better.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Hmmm... then might I offer up my fav turkey recipe...

You get thick sliced turkey breast from the deli. Cook up some Stove top stuffing following the directions on the box. Roll the stuffing in the center of each slice of turkey making a "turkey roll up". Place them in a 13 x 9 cooking dish, cover with a jar or two of turkey gravy.... and waaaaalaaaa... Thanksgiving dinner all in one dish. :smile:

OMG yum!!! :drool:
 
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