Teen leaps 4 stories after eating marijuana cookie

officeguy

Well-Known Member
But if it's legalized, we'll rid the gene pool of the stupid people. :shrug:

That's the hope.

I dont understand why we try to keep junkies from killing themselves with fentanyl laced heroin. If they want it, why do we try to get in their way with narcan programs and the like. Last year, the sheriffs department investigated a drug death in some home in Mechanicsville. The same day later, the state troopers came back to investigate a second overdose death at the same house. You would think that someone gets the message that the batch of dope they picked up that day is bad if one of your buddies already died from it, but no they go and inject the same stuff. We should be handing out free fentanyl.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
If I may ...
Pot didn't kill him, the fall did.
No, it was the sudden stop.

The article was still a hit piece. As with any propaganda, bits and pieces of information is extracted and twisted to push forth an agenda. As far as having "cannabinoids" in someone's system upon death does not prove a causal relationship. THC can be in the body days after intake with absolutely none of the effects of being high. Someone who is "high" ie just smoked recently, is not going to fight with anyone, they really would rather not. There are extremes to any illicit activity. Those extractors are idiots.
 

officeguy

Well-Known Member
The article was still a hit piece. As with any propaganda, bits and pieces of information is extracted and twisted to push forth an agenda. As far as having "cannabinoids" in someone's system upon death does not prove a causal relationship.

This case is well documented with witnesses and toxicology. He ate the brownie, became psychotic and agitated and went off the hotel balcony. No other drugs and no alcohol in his system.

(this was Wyoming college student from last year, not a separate jumper. It just bubbled up in the press again when the CDC published their report in 'morbidity and mortality weekly'.)
 

CrashTest

Well-Known Member
If I may ...

Anyone who uses pot, or has used pot, just pot by itself with no other stimulant, will tell you all it makes you is mellow, chills you out and provides a lovely wash of body relaxation and a gentle mental uplift. No one can overdose from pot. If you weighed 140 pounds you would need to take in over 4 pounds of marijuana at once and this still has not been proven to be a fatal dosage. This is nothing but sensationalism, "Officials determined that marijuana intoxication was the chief contributing factor to the man's death. An autopsy found that the man's blood levels of THC were above the legal limit for driving a car in Colorado." So did he drive a car off the balcony? Instead why not tell us the actual THC level in his blood?
Was he also drinking or have any other drugs in his system? The article doesn't mention if he was or wasn't. The hit piece is poorly written and screams of booga booga booga. Pot bad ... government good.

I believe the study that concluded pot permanently lowers IQ, and I also believe that you were a test subject in that study.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
We'll find out once one of them ingests a couple of grams of THC whether the 'no one can overdose from pot' mantra holds true.
But no, its completely harmless. It only makes you happy, happy, happy and maybe hungry. Right ?




well then POT isn't the problem, THC is
that would be the difference between a couple cups of coffee, and eating a box of No Doze or other caffeine concentrate



coffee or smoking is a low yield delivery system .....
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
You would think that someone gets the message that the batch of dope they picked up that day is bad if one of your buddies already died from it, but no they go and inject the same stuff. We should be handing out free fentanyl.




yeah not so much

I heard plenty of stories in the Military in the 80's
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Lol, thats an impression I have taken away from prior discussions with potheads.

When you see people defending pot smoking it's a pretty good bet they are smoking it now or have in the past.

Seinfeld (Not that there is anything wrong with that). LOL.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
If I may ...

There are approximately 88000 deaths attributed to alcohol in the US every year. About 2.5 million world wide. Should it not be banned? Made illegal? Alcohol has many serious health related issues. Etc, etc, etc. You have to apply the same argument to alcohol as is done with cannabis if you are going to be intellectually honest. Have you heard of any cannabis horror stories coming out of the Netherlands caused by its use? They can even smoke it in coffee shops over there. A person does not have to be a user, or past user, to defend its use.
 

digitallest

New Member
I hope the fed lifts the ban on medical research of marijuana, so we can discover marijuana can cause latent schitzophrenia to express. Which I imagine would be terrifying. And anectdotally certainly seems to be the case. Schitzophrenia, in general, is not compatable with marijuana use, it causes troublingly severe breaks from reality. I tried to research the plant before using it to combat wasting from a compressed nerve root that services my digestive organs. I did not want to break the law, I called the governors office to confirm it was really decriminalized for people like me. Even that information was not exactly clear.

In my search for medical information, i found more propaganda than real information, which is a bummer, I wanted to know how it would help, and what possible drug interactions there could be, and information like that was sparse. There was no dosing type info, because there is no consistent measurement with compounds. I walked away from reading about it feeling like, as a species, manipulation is destroying something good about us.

I did what my doctor did right, starting with the smallest dose possible, because I can always increase it if I need to. One hit works just fine, with minimal buzzy side effects. I was a little high, but not ridiculously Impaired. Three puffs and I am a dumbass. Temporary loss of all the IQ. Need assistance operating the cheetos.

In the end, it helped me to survive compression of my nerve root long enough for my body to create a new "tray" in the bone, for the nerve root to settle into, right beside the one the root originally inhabited, before being pulled up by the disk, in the car accident. Which neither I, nor my doctors, knew was going to happen. The bone receded over the course of a couple of years. The frittered nerve gave me heck coming back online, but I am ok with that, in fact, I am amazed by that. So, I would call my mj experience good to awesome.

I definitely found with marijuana, that too much is too much, like with anything else. It did not cause any serious side effects, but being too stupid to watch tv successfully is not the look i am going for.

a small amount before meals helped a lot. It even made it possible for me to skip my breakthrough pain med on the days that I used it. My best days are those, when I do not have to take the one optional medication. They feel like maybe I am slowly healing. (Except the pot smoking days, they told me the herb is a pretty good pain reliever) the most remarkable aspect was how just a little bit more than was necessary to feel hungry, and digest food, made me feel dopey, and sleepy, possibly one or two of the other 7 dwarves.

Not Sneezy, though. He is not my type. Gross.

It did not make me jump off buildings, or serial murder any more than normal. :lol It was pretty tame.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Yes, alcohol is bad too.

What is your argument ?

Well, speaking for myself, it's the exact same argument the right uses about Treyvon or the punk in Ferguson or the guy that was murdered running from the SC cop; "Gosh, that's only an isolated incident, what about the 6,000 young black kids a year murdered by other blacks???"

One person jumping out the window due to a dope cookie v. 88,000 alcohol related incidents per year.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
I hope the fed lifts the ban on medical research of marijuana, so we can discover marijuana can cause latent schitzophrenia to express. Which I imagine would be terrifying. And anectdotally certainly seems to be the case. Schitzophrenia, in general, is not compatable with marijuana use, it causes troublingly severe breaks from reality. I tried to research the plant before using it to combat wasting from a compressed nerve root that services my digestive organs. I did not want to break the law, I called the governors office to confirm it was really decriminalized for people like me. Even that information was not exactly clear.

In my search for medical information, i found more propaganda than real information, which is a bummer, I wanted to know how it would help, and what possible drug interactions there could be, and information like that was sparse. There was no dosing type info, because there is no consistent measurement with compounds. I walked away from reading about it feeling like, as a species, manipulation is destroying something good about us.

I did what my doctor did right, starting with the smallest dose possible, because I can always increase it if I need to. One hit works just fine, with minimal buzzy side effects. I was a little high, but not ridiculously Impaired. Three puffs and I am a dumbass. Temporary loss of all the IQ. Need assistance operating the cheetos.

In the end, it helped me to survive compression of my nerve root long enough for my body to create a new "tray" in the bone, for the nerve root to settle into, right beside the one the root originally inhabited, before being pulled up by the disk, in the car accident. Which neither I, nor my doctors, knew was going to happen. The bone receded over the course of a couple of years. The frittered nerve gave me heck coming back online, but I am ok with that, in fact, I am amazed by that. So, I would call my mj experience good to awesome.

I definitely found with marijuana, that too much is too much, like with anything else. It did not cause any serious side effects, but being too stupid to watch tv successfully is not the look i am going for.

a small amount before meals helped a lot. It even made it possible for me to skip my breakthrough pain med on the days that I used it. My best days are those, when I do not have to take the one optional medication. They feel like maybe I am slowly healing. (Except the pot smoking days, they told me the herb is a pretty good pain reliever) the most remarkable aspect was how just a little bit more than was necessary to feel hungry, and digest food, made me feel dopey, and sleepy, possibly one or two of the other 7 dwarves.

Not Sneezy, though. He is not my type. Gross.

It did not make me jump off buildings, or serial murder any more than normal. :lol It was pretty tame.

That is far to reasonable and thought out for how we do things here in 'Merica.

Happy for your results.

As usual, this gets down to money; dope was outlawed, even simple hemp, because people with money and power wanted more, be it to make more profitable rope and other products to replace cheap and easy hemp or to create other drugs, more profitable, that cheap and easy dope.

It's what we do; we pursue more expensive, more complex, more jobs and more MONEY over simple, cheap and easy. When the dollar was tied to hard currency, gold, it was hard to make the case for that sort of thinking; you didn't need growth at all costs because a dollar saved was a dollar earned. But with fiat currency where we, in essence, choose what the value of a dollar is, and that makes growth above all things the most important consideration because of how fiat currency devalues and destroys simple and cheap.
 

digitallest

New Member
We are living in a very tumultuous time, so much has changed, so fast. Technologies existing today were unheard of, just a short time ago, in the historical context. Our constant progress in our apparent goal to get as far as we can away from nature, and our wilder, savage roots, has propelled human civilization to this point where technologies are being developed at breakneck speed, every day, in every industry, are people making stuff. Making new stuff, making old stuff work better. Making money, making a mess of things. Between corporate greed, and political love of power, long ago there spawned a covenant that will someday jump its track. We are the unspoken currency they trade in, our lives spent working to pay con artists to spend our money, and borrow against our future taxes.

we the people are prodded by marketing to be the mice on the treadmill, busily providing the world with goods or services, so we can then purchase some goods and services in our "spare time" not seeming to notice how little of that we are allowed. I hopped off the treadmill, and found my happy place, found my people and the thing I could do best. Then I got hit by a couple cars. Haha.

The learning curve is steep all over the place. We live in a time when most of American society believes food comes wrapped in plastic, from a well lit, clean building, preferrably. Most of our society believes where food really comes from is dirty and gross. I will give them that, the farms mass producing meat and dairy are also mass producing feces and other unpleasant things attendant to the processes.

I think with so many of us dependant upon an overburdened, top heavy economic system, full of so many fatal errors patched up with glossy hustle, our entire country could fall apart from the weight of it all. too many liars, stealing too much imaginary money, too many real needs are not being met, while huge budgets get filtered through more hands, rich administrators, live like kings, right in our faces. Inside this machine, something is ticking slow as a glacier moving through a mountain. It feels like a good time to get closer to where food really comes from, and live closer to nature. I have noticed, when it comes to sustainable practices, nature is beating civilization by many miles.

Maybe it is actually barbaric to think the cycles which support life, that filter the air, and water are disgusting. Maybe we are not so intelligent. Making war on predators, who are also learning, and developing all the time....seems kind of stupid. At the rate of our current progress, in about 70 years, we will be all they have left to eat, and humans, fat docile placid Americans, we will not be hard to catch. We keep pushing into their turf, and destroying their livelihood. There are lots of ways what we have donr wrong will eventually come back to us. It is an exciting time to be alive, not on the cusp of big changes, in the vortex.

The easily led are easily misled, I broke from that pack about ten years ago, to stand aside and observe as somethkng I can not quite put my finger on takes shape.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
No thanks. Too risky.

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digitallest

New Member
Watch out, capn crunch fights back. I woke up with my face in the box, feeling like I had chewed up a bucket of tiny samurai warriors.

talked with a lisp for like a week.

Were it not for marijuana, I would never have made it through my post doctoral research. Waffle Hut University may not be ivy league, but the program is exhaustive, and the heavy, laminated textbooks are always sticky. I couldn't put it down. Literally, I was fllapping my hand, and it wss pretty hilarious, because I was baked off my ass.

Great school, they provide you with supplies, and you get to color in your own diploma. Mine is hanging in the study, right next to a cruelly worded award from my credit card company.
 
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