Terrorism wins!

Pete

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FromTexas said:
A civil war over a country you don't even have yet? :lmao:
What a stroke of genious! The Israeli's fixed the election so Hamas would win and start a civil war with Fatah. What would make Sharon's beenie spin more than Palestinians mass murdering each other?
 

Ken King

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Pete said:
What a stroke of genious! The Israeli's fixed the election so Hamas would win and start a civil war with Fatah. What would make Sharon's beenie spin more than Palestinians mass murdering each other?
Maybe that was what the millions we secretly channeled over there were used for. Bush did it. :yahoo:
 

FromTexas

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Ken King said:
Maybe that was what the millions we secretly channeled over there were used for. Bush did it. :yahoo:

:lmao:

He pulled another bait and switch... like he did with Miers/Alito. :killingme
 

FromTexas

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We will transform the army of the Palestinian Authority into armed militias. We are not waiting for Hamas to teach us their Islamic beliefs. We know the Koran by heart," said Fatah gunman Ramzi Obeid

:eyebrow:
 
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Bruzilla

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As usual, some people tend to like to resort to stereotypes, shaped by watching the widely televised actions of the bad apples in the bushel, to judge the actions of others. Do some of you really believe that there is this Vast Terrorist Wing Conspiracy amongst the Palestinians, and that this election was some referendum on death to the Jews and let's incinerate America?

What's rule number 1 in American politics? Answer: All Politics Are Local. What makes you think that anything is different over there? The Palestinian people have been deludged with reports of billions of dollars in foreign aid coming into their country and disappearing into the Swiss bank accounts of Arafat and his cronies, paying for Arafat's wife to live like a queen in Paris, etc. Unlike the Democratic kool-aid drinkers here in the U.S., I think that the Palestinians payed a bit closer attention to all those stories and didn't buy the denials and lies coming from the political leadership. Hamas capitalized on this by using money that they were getting to buy, aside from weapons, medicines and food for the people.

Hamas won because the Palestinians were tired of getting robbed by the Fatah party, and Hamas was the only party that had ever given them anything.
 

FromTexas

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Bruzilla said:
As usual, some people tend to like to resort to stereotypes, shaped by watching the widely televised actions of the bad apples in the bushel, to judge the actions of others. Do some of you really believe that there is this Vast Terrorist Wing Conspiracy amongst the Palestinians, and that this election was some referendum on death to the Jews and let's incinerate America?

What's rule number 1 in American politics? Answer: All Politics Are Local. What makes you think that anything is different over there? The Palestinian people have been deludged with reports of billions of dollars in foreign aid coming into their country and disappearing into the Swiss bank accounts of Arafat and his cronies, paying for Arafat's wife to live like a queen in Paris, etc. Unlike the Democratic kool-aid drinkers here in the U.S., I think that the Palestinians payed a bit closer attention to all those stories and didn't buy the denials and lies coming from the political leadership. Hamas capitalized on this by using money that they were getting to buy, aside from weapons, medicines and food for the people.

Hamas won because the Palestinians were tired of getting robbed by the Fatah party, and Hamas was the only party that had ever given them anything.

No one here said the people voted just because of a belief in the terrorism against Israel. There was obviously more to it. Yet, Iran pumps money into Hamas because they know Hamas carries the belief there should be no peace as long as there is a Jewish state. However they get the people falling into line is unimportant. What is important is they will now turn on each other because all of the leading factions are a bunch of psychopaths. How can anyone claim anything can be done by this President or any other if the people have no regard for peace even among their own?
 
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FromTexas said:
No one here said the people voted just because of a belief in the terrorism against Israel. There was obviously more to it. Yet, Iran pumps money into Hamas because they know Hamas carries the belief there should be no peace as long as there is a Jewish state. However they get the people falling into line is unimportant. What is important is they will now turn on each other because all of the leading factions are a bunch of psychopaths. How can anyone claim anything can be done by this President or any other if the people have no regard for peace even among their own?

You're right to an extent. I think that for years the Palestinians were cowered by Arafat and his thugs, but I don't think that Hamas is going to get the same level of slack IRT being responsive to the needs of the people. If Hamas leaders think that the same trick of robbing the treasury while the people are distracted by hate for Israel is going to work again... they're wrong.

Yes Iran has been sending a lot of money, but the US and the West have been sending a lot more, and now that money's going away. Is Iran going to step up with millions of bucks to take our place? Doubtful. I read today that Hamas is wanting to raise an Army, and that takes lots of money. Who's it going to come from? Syria is on the ropes, Iran is facing sanctions coupled with a loss of face, so who's going to pay the bill except for the Palestinians forgoing what little aid is coming in to raise an army to fight a foe that really isn't much of a foe anymore. I don't see the Palestinian people taking much crap from Hamas.
 
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