Tesla Hate

[glhs837]

Remember Reginald Denny.

I will always remeber him. He paid a very heavy price to teach us all a very important lesson.

Keeping people from buying Teslas is business not government. I think you are injecting personal feelings into this.

I dont think so. There have been people trying to keep people from buying Teslas forever. Ever heard of TeslaQ? or FUD? The differences are two.

1. There is destruction and threats of violence, as opposed to BS news articles and such.
2. The overriding purpose this time is solely related to Musk's government job. When he was just running Tesla, you were right, but none of this happened until he started in with the trimming shears. Read the signs of the protestors. They are all about stopping a govt agency, DOGE.

 

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[PeoplesElbow]

I will always remeber him. He paid a very heavy price to teach us all a very important lesson.

I dont think so. There have been people trying to keep people from buying Teslas forever. Ever heard of TeslaQ? or FUD? The differences are two.

1. There is destruction and threats of violence, as opposed to BS news articles and such.
2. The overriding purpose this time is solely related to Musk's government job. When he was just running Tesla, you were right, but none of this happened until he started in with the trimming shears. Read the signs of the protestors. They are all about stopping a govt agency, DOGE.

Not going to stop Doge, remember Musk is just an advisor.

It's a temper tantrum plain and simple.

 

[glhs837]

Not going to stop Doge, remember Musk is just an advisor.

It's a temper tantrum plain and simple.

And bombers are not going to change anything either, doesn't mean they are not trying to. They feel that Musk is the one causing them pain, so they are going after him. Don't get me wrong, every keyed Tesla is not such a statement. But every one with a Nazi symbol is. And for sure every act of arson or shooting or shutting down a dealership is. Of course, the really peaceful legal protests are not a problem.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

And bombers are not going to change anything either, doesn't mean they are not trying to. They feel that Musk is the one causing them pain, so they are going after him. Don't get me wrong, every keyed Tesla is not such a statement. But every one with a Nazi symbol is. And for sure every act of arson or shooting or shutting down a dealership is. Of course, the really peaceful legal protests are not a problem.

I think they just feel betrayed because they considered him one of them before. The hate started well over a year ago.

Sorry I see this as you being absolutely for government overreach as long it's a purpose you agree with.

 

[glhs837]

I think they just feel betrayed because they considered him one of them before. The hate started well over a year ago.

Sorry I see this as you being absolutely for government overreach as long it's a purpose you agree with.

But this new concerted effort is new since DOGE started doing things. I'm not sure why you think prosecuting folks using fear and intimidation for political goals is overreach. If the right does it same deal.

 

[glhs837]

Arson investigation after two Tesla Cybertrucks burn at Kansas City dealership

Police believe the trucks were intentionally set on fire

www.kmbc.com

 

[PeoplesElbow]

But this new concerted effort is new since DOGE started doing things. I'm not sure why you think prosecuting folks using fear and intimidation for political goals is overreach. If the right does it same deal.

You think the big pickups ICEing Tesla chargers wasn't coordinated?

If having your car keyed causes fear and intimidation someone needs a therapist not the patriot act.

 

[SamSpade]

This of course perfectly illustrates the differences between the Left and the Right.

The Right still isn't on board with EVs, more or less. They register their objections by not buying them, and mentioning their failings.
They'll tell you, don't waste your money, it isn't any "greener" because of its battery, the means of production and that it uses electricity created by fossil fuels.

The Left - newly onboard with HATE for Tesla - which as it so happens, is about half of all EVs sold here - they show their opposition by BURNING stations, burning the cars and vandalizing dealerships - and RANDOM cars.

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And that's the current state of the Democratic Party - agree 100% - or you're a racist, a traitor, whatever. They all loved their leader Schumer until he voted FOR a CR because he mused that shutting DOWN the government would give too much power to DOGE - now, they want him out.

I wasn't sure about all the death spiral crap out there, regarding Democrats, because every time a party loses the White House, there's always talk about how the party OUT of power is lost for good. But they're really hanging themselves.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Arson investigation after two Tesla Cybertrucks burn at Kansas City dealership

Police believe the trucks were intentionally set on fire

www.kmbc.com

As I said before I have no problem charging arson or shooting with anything.

Imagine you have an 18yo daughter. Keying a car is a very scorned woman thing to do. Imagine she had a boyfriend with a Tesla that cheated on her, in a fit of irrational hormonal rage she keys his car. Do you even want the possibility of her being charged with terrorism for what should be restitution and some community service? The law of unintended consequences always bites us in the ass, always.

 

[Ken King]

Maybe the legal definition for "domestic terrorism" can help clear things up some.

(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping;

 

[TPD]

Sorry I see this as you being absolutely for government overreach

Like you were during Covid when I was fighting back at my hardware store…

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Like you were during Covid when I was fighting back at my hardware store…

Other than people wearing a mask what else was I for? Did people having to wear a mask keep them out of your store somehow but not other stores? Did I ever say stores should be closed or have to do anything for that matter?

If I remember right wasn't if your own family that kept calling the health dept on you?

Actually show me where I said the government should actually do anything..... You won't be able to.

 

[BOP]

Not really, motive isn't an issue unless they are seeking domestic terrorism charges. Arson can and is a standalone Federal law.

Motive doesn't matter only when it comes to Hillary.

 

[GURPS]

Unfortunately your definition of domestic terrorism paints the Jan 6 protesters and possibly the PTA parents take over also as domestic terrorists. IMHO it's just regular ole crime, I do believe in being tough on crime.

Bullshit

 

[GURPS]

Maybe the legal definition for "domestic terrorism" can help clear things up some.

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;



This

 

[BOP]

Yet you claim to know about his moral compass. Yet you say his desire for billions drives him. Oddly enough, what does he desire those billions for? The lavish lifestyle he leads, going from mansion to yacht and back to his other mansion? Oh right, he doesn't have those. He moved out of CA and took his company with him over covid lockdowns. Looks like a moral stance. He bought twitter when it became quite clear it was stifling free speech. That also looks like a moral stance. Seems to me his sole use for billions is to accomplish a few different goals.
1. Remove gasoline vehicles from usage. Because burning stuff to more around is not optimal for us or the planet.
2. Get some of our species "eggs" out of this one fragile basket. Get humans living elsewhere as well as here so one stray rock doesn't end us.
3. Since the US is really the only place on the globe where one person can accumulate the money needed to, you sorta need to make sure it keeps being the most free place on the planet. And the most technologically advanced.

You should know that both Vrai and I are registered independent, we left the Republican party years back. For me the lack of a plan to fix Obamacare was the last straw. They asked for power saying they had a plan. They were given power and folded like a cheap suit.

Back to Musk. You keep coming back to the children. It really looks like that's the thing you really don't like, so you go after these other things. I personally don care how many kids you have with how many women. Are the children taken care of? Are they loved? Educated? The moral high ground depends on how you treat other people. Not how many children you produce or how many women you do that with.

That's actually a life goal of mine. I'm praying not only for the meteor, but that I'll be around to witness it. The pleasure I'll derive in my final moment will undoubtedly be orgasmic. At least I hope it will be.

Oh, and I've laid in popcorn, just in case.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Bullshit

Weren't they already called domestic terrorists by the Biden admin?

 

[PeoplesElbow]

That's actually a life goal of mine. I'm praying not only for the meteor, but that I'll be around to witness it. The pleasure I'll derive in my final moment will undoubtedly be orgasmic. At least I hope it will be.

Oh, and I've laid in popcorn, just in case.

I've often wondered why people care if humans die out in the future, it's just part of the natural process.

 

[BOP]

As I said before I have no problem charging arson or shooting with anything.

Imagine you have an 18yo daughter. Keying a car is a very scorned woman thing to do. Imagine she had a boyfriend with a Tesla that cheated on her, in a fit of irrational hormonal rage she keys his car. Do you even want the possibility of her being charged with terrorism for what should be restitution and some community service? The law of unintended consequences always bites us in the ass, always.

I've insisted for years that the entirety of the left - barring any rare exceptions - acts just like a typical woman. There's a reason women vote 80% for the left; they're voting for themselves, essentially.

Remember the old Reaganesque saying "The right thinks people on the left have bad ideas; the people on the left think that people on the right are bad people"?

Turns out, the people on the left are bad people. AND they have really bad ideas.