Texas Judge William Adams Beating Daughter vid

[BOP]

Obviously it caused tremendous harm to his child. His child is a spoiled brat, and that's likely because of the way he treated his child. I understand that the use of language such as his to a sixteen year old girl is no big deal, I get that's what it's like in your household. But this kid didn't become the kid she is without help from those two "parents".

She's a spoiled brat because he didn't start early enough in her discipline. I'm not unconvinced that that was probably the first and maybe only time he ever got mad enough to take a belt to her. Maybe, maybe not, but children who've had the belt taken to them regularly, or often enough, know better than to try and resist it the way she was.

By the way: never, ever discipline your children when you're angry. The emotional damage comes in part because of mixed messages you send when you apologize to the child for hitting them while you were angry. A few good strokes of the belt is nothing for the vast majority of children, if it's administered with love and not while the parent is angry.

It's not discipline if you cannot make them understand that they are being punished for their behavior, not because of who they are. That's the message a parent sends when they punish a child in the throes of anger. And that's the most damaging aspect of it all. Not a few good strokes from a belt.

 

[BOP]

Sure you are...sure you are bob. This language and beating's acceptable to you. That's how you feel a child who has done something wrong should be treated. Kinda speaks volumes as to they type of person you are.

How about coming down of your high horse, you condescending biatch?

 

[BOP]

And FYI, no more making kids eat things they don't want to. Do you insist your spouse eat their veggies? Tell perfect strangers they cannot have dessert until they've eaten their dinner?

No. No, you don't.

So why is it okay to do it to a helpless child if you wouldn't do it to an adult? Hmmmm?

Don't give FLOTUS any ideas. She's kind of already on track to do all of that.

 

[pixiegirl]

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I am comparing a beating, and bobs assertion that there was "no harm done".
If there is really no harm done then why is it illegal to do to an adult?As for your comparison, if you forced you spouse to eat their veggies through means other that force, I don't see what law you would be breaking. Same for telling strangers to eat their dinner before their dessert. As long as you aren't using force or threats I dint see how you would be successful, or would be breaking the law.

This is a ridiculous argument. My kids are 7 and almost 10 and I can't tell you when the last time I spanked either was BUT if they did something today that warrented a spanking I could surely take their pants down and spank their asses legally. If my boss pisses me off (right or wrong) and I run into his office and yank his pants down and try to spank him I'm getting arrested for battery and possibly sexual assault. That's the thing with being a parent of a minor, I am responsible for their behavior and can discipline them. I can't discipline the rest of the world.

 

[thatguy]

This is a ridiculous argument. My kids are 7 and almost 10 and I can't tell you when the last time I spanked either was BUT if they did something today that warrented a spanking I could surely take their pants down and spank their asses legally. If my boss pisses me off (right or wrong) and I run into his office and yank his pants down and try to spank him I'm getting arrested for battery and possibly sexual assault. That's the thing with being a parent of a minor, I am responsible for their behavior and can discipline them. I can't discipline the rest of the world.

you are kind of making my point....
If there is no harm done then why would you get arrested for spanking your boss?

 

[vraiblonde]

you are kind of making my point....
If there is no harm done then why would you get arrested for spanking your boss?

Your line of argument is stupid, and this has been pointed out to you by numerous people. Yet you persist. Is there a reason you're completely glommed on to spanking bosses, spouses and random strangers on the street? Or do you just have difficulty understanding a parent/child relationship?

Clearly you are not a parent. And if by some frightening chance you are, CPS might want to pay you a visit, given your obsession with treating children like marital partners.

 

[Pete]

you are kind of making my point....
If there is no harm done then why would you get arrested for spanking your boss?

You redefine obtuse.

 

[thatguy]

Your line of argument is stupid, and this has been pointed out to you by numerous people. Yet you persist. Is there a reason you're completely glommed on to spanking bosses, spouses and random strangers on the street? Or do you just have difficulty understanding a parent/child relationship?

Clearly you are not a parent. And if by some frightening chance you are, CPS might want to pay you a visit, given your obsession with treating children like marital partners.

meh, being told you are wrong by the idiots on this board doens't have any meaning what so ever.

you want to try to answer the question of harm? if there is no harm then why is it illegal to do to an adult?

 

[Hank]

you want to try to answer the question of harm? if there is no harm then why is it illegal to do to an adult?

I love being spanked :shrug:

 

[Gilligan]

You redefine obtuse.

Sets that bar quite high, he does.

 

[libertytyranny]

This is a ridiculous argument. My kids are 7 and almost 10 and I can't tell you when the last time I spanked either was BUT if they did something today that warrented a spanking I could surely take their pants down and spank their asses legally. If my boss pisses me off (right or wrong) and I run into his office and yank his pants down and try to spank him I'm getting arrested for battery and possibly sexual assault. That's the thing with being a parent of a minor, I am responsible for their behavior and can discipline them. I can't discipline the rest of the world.

not picking on you at all, but since you mentioned it..why do people take their kid's pants down? when I was younger I did, on occasion, get spanked (and though she denies it to this day, with a horrible pair of rubber shoes, ouch) ..but never did my mother ask me to pull my pants down. To me, it seems very strange to do that :shrug: I mean, it hurts regardless, making them take their pants off is just adding humiliation and control..kind of creepy. I am not against spanking..and I have no doubt that monstrous child of mine is gonna get it for something or the other..but I cannot imagine having her become naked so I can punish her..



We have the responsibility to make our children grow up to be well mannered useful people in society instead of the heathans they would naturally be. Spanking, for some kids, helps toward that end. But I fail to see how beating the hell out a 16 year old while screaming about beating her into submission can be considered by anyone to be good parenting? Why anyone is sticking up for him, is beyond me. Maybe he's right, and the video looks "worse" than it was..but all we have is video and that video looks awful. Humiliating, controlling, fear. the hurt from getting hit goes away, but I can tell you the hurt from being "beat into submission" mentally does not go away so quickly. I think that's why so many people are kind of disgusted at the video. Of course there are anti spanking nutties, but normal people are disgusted too..and from the people I have talked with, it isn't the spanking so much as her age, the intense anger over something seemingly fairly benign, the punishment not fitting the crime and the disturbing words. Having lived with someone who blew up over very benign things as well, it is entirely possible that really was his reaction to her pirating something off the internet. And most of the time, they look to the world like the most jovial easygoing people and that's because they come home and blow up on their family..if I had some video of some blowups I endured, I would love to show them to a few people, who think they know someone.

 

[pixiegirl]

not picking on you at all, but since you mentioned it..why do people take their kid's pants down? when I was younger I did, on occasion, get spanked (and though she denies it to this day, with a horrible pair of rubber shoes, ouch) ..but never did my mother ask me to pull my pants down. To me, it seems very strange to do that :shrug: I mean, it hurts regardless, making them take their pants off is just adding humiliation and control..kind of creepy. I am not against spanking..and I have no doubt that monstrous child of mine is gonna get it for something or the other..but I cannot imagine having her become naked so I can punish her..



We have the responsibility to make our children grow up to be well mannered useful people in society instead of the heathans they would naturally be. Spanking, for some kids, helps toward that end. But I fail to see how beating the hell out a 16 year old while screaming about beating her into submission can be considered by anyone to be good parenting? Why anyone is sticking up for him, is beyond me. Maybe he's right, and the video looks "worse" than it was..but all we have is video and that video looks awful. Humiliating, controlling, fear. the hurt from getting hit goes away, but I can tell you the hurt from being "beat into submission" mentally does not go away so quickly. I think that's why so many people are kind of disgusted at the video. Of course there are anti spanking nutties, but normal people are disgusted too..and from the people I have talked with, it isn't the spanking so much as her age, the intense anger over something seemingly fairly benign, the punishment not fitting the crime and the disturbing words. Having lived with someone who blew up over very benign things as well, it is entirely possible that really was his reaction to her pirating something off the internet. And most of the time, they look to the world like the most jovial easygoing people and that's because they come home and blow up on their family..if I had some video of some blowups I endured, I would love to show them to a few people, who think they know someone.

OH JFC, the only thing that makes it creepy is freaking weirdos that pair disciplining your child with something sexual. I've pulled down their pants because a spanking IS a lot more effective on a bare ass than through jeans. Know how I'm absolutely positive of this??? Because I got my ass beat, pants up, pants down, with a belt, with a spoon, with whatever the hell my mom could reach. The only thing that made the ass whippings I took even remotely abusive was the lack of consistancy, one day I could get away with murder and nothing and the next I was getting my ass lit up for sneezing in the wrong direction.

Anyway, back to the creepy thing. The naked body is just a naked body and there's nothing sexual about it unless you make it sexual. Are your children never going to see you naked? How do you feel about breast feeding? Humiliation.... You don't think humiliation is an effective parenting tool? My oldest (4th grade now) changed his mark on his daily behavior chart (has to bring home daily for signature) in 1st grade, not because he was going to get in trouble (he was typically very well behaved and I don't expect perfection) but because he had been getting rewards for extended good behavior. Anyway, the teacher notices it and calls me. When that litte sucker got home that day I made him call his grandmother and his father and tell both of them what he had done. Ya think he ever tried pulling that crap again? You can make anything weird or creepy that you want but it's not the other person that's being weird or creepy.....

 

[Hank]

OH JFC, the only thing that makes it creepy is freaking weirdos that pair disciplining your child with something sexual. I've pulled down their pants because a spanking IS a lot more effective on a bare ass than through jeans. Know how I'm absolutely positive of this??? Because I got my ass beat, pants up, pants down, with a belt, with a spoon, with whatever the hell my mom could reach. The only thing that made the ass whippings I took even remotely abusive was the lack of consistancy, one day I could get away with murder and nothing and the next I was getting my ass lit up for sneezing in the wrong direction.

Anyway, back to the creepy thing. The naked body is just a naked body and there's nothing sexual about it unless you make it sexual. Are your children never going to see you naked? How do you feel about breast feeding? Humiliation.... You don't think humiliation is an effective parenting tool? My oldest (4th grade now) changed his mark on his daily behavior chart (has to bring home daily for signature) in 1st grade, not because he was going to get in trouble (he was typically very well behaved and I don't expect perfection) but because he had been getting rewards for extended good behavior. Anyway, the teacher notices it and calls me. When that litte sucker got home that day I made him call his grandmother and his father and tell both of them what he had done. Ya think he ever tried pulling that crap again? You can make anything weird or creepy that you want but it's not the other person that's being weird or creepy.....

feisty

 

[pixiegirl]

not picking on you at all, but since you mentioned it..why do people take their kid's pants down? when I was younger I did, on occasion, get spanked (and though she denies it to this day, with a horrible pair of rubber shoes, ouch) ..but never did my mother ask me to pull my pants down. To me, it seems very strange to do that :shrug: I mean, it hurts regardless, making them take their pants off is just adding humiliation and control..kind of creepy. I am not against spanking..and I have no doubt that monstrous child of mine is gonna get it for something or the other..but I cannot imagine having her become naked so I can punish her..



We have the responsibility to make our children grow up to be well mannered useful people in society instead of the heathans they would naturally be. Spanking, for some kids, helps toward that end. But I fail to see how beating the hell out a 16 year old while screaming about beating her into submission can be considered by anyone to be good parenting? Why anyone is sticking up for him, is beyond me. Maybe he's right, and the video looks "worse" than it was..but all we have is video and that video looks awful. Humiliating, controlling, fear. the hurt from getting hit goes away, but I can tell you the hurt from being "beat into submission" mentally does not go away so quickly. I think that's why so many people are kind of disgusted at the video. Of course there are anti spanking nutties, but normal people are disgusted too..and from the people I have talked with, it isn't the spanking so much as her age, the intense anger over something seemingly fairly benign, the punishment not fitting the crime and the disturbing words. Having lived with someone who blew up over very benign things as well, it is entirely possible that really was his reaction to her pirating something off the internet. And most of the time, they look to the world like the most jovial easygoing people and that's because they come home and blow up on their family..if I had some video of some blowups I endured, I would love to show them to a few people, who think they know someone.

And the rant wasn't directed at you personally. I've exerienced people in real life that make weird generalizations about nakedness.

 

[Chasey_Lane]

When that litte sucker got home that day I made him call his grandmother and his father and tell both of them what he had done.

 

[vraiblonde]

When that litte sucker got home that day I made him call his grandmother and his father and tell both of them what he had done.

That was my mother's punishment of choice when I was a kid. I'd have rather had her beat me with a belt than call my grandfather and tell him what bad thing I did.

 

[libertytyranny]

OH JFC, the only thing that makes it creepy is freaking weirdos that pair disciplining your child with something sexual. I've pulled down their pants because a spanking IS a lot more effective on a bare ass than through jeans. Know how I'm absolutely positive of this??? Because I got my ass beat, pants up, pants down, with a belt, with a spoon, with whatever the hell my mom could reach. The only thing that made the ass whippings I took even remotely abusive was the lack of consistancy, one day I could get away with murder and nothing and the next I was getting my ass lit up for sneezing in the wrong direction.

Anyway, back to the creepy thing. The naked body is just a naked body and there's nothing sexual about it unless you make it sexual. Are your children never going to see you naked? How do you feel about breast feeding? Humiliation.... You don't think humiliation is an effective parenting tool? My oldest (4th grade now) changed his mark on his daily behavior chart (has to bring home daily for signature) in 1st grade, not because he was going to get in trouble (he was typically very well behaved and I don't expect perfection) but because he had been getting rewards for extended good behavior. Anyway, the teacher notices it and calls me. When that litte sucker got home that day I made him call his grandmother and his father and tell both of them what he had done. Ya think he ever tried pulling that crap again? You can make anything weird or creepy that you want but it's not the other person that's being weird or creepy.....

Like I said, I didn't mean to call you out or anything, you just happened to mention it.

I don't feel like it is sexual, in most cases, but it always struck me as weird. regardless, it hurts, so I never got the point. And it's not the nakedness, itself, either that's the problem in my head. I guess it is the control of it that bothers me. I never took the time to explore why I feel that way...and I can't put my finger on it. I certainly don't fault parents for doing whatever it is they think they should do, or mean to intimate anything about someone who does. Maybe I have a different view of the purpose of discipline, rather than punishment? my mom almost never got angry and meted out punishments as a way to quell her anger. She did it so I would get the point that I wasn't to do that again...I guess I don't see spanking as the most effective discipline for most things, especially when you have to go to great lengths to make it the most humiliating and painful experience you can to make it effective..that makes me think that it is to satisfy(probably the wrong word) the person doing it, rather than to benefit the child. I have babysat children who I have wanted to slap across the room, but it wouldn't be to correct them, it would be to make me feel better.

 

[pixiegirl]

That was my mother's punishment of choice when I was a kid. I'd have rather had her beat me with a belt than call my grandfather and tell him what bad thing I did.

I can recall one time where I didn't spank him and I should have. I don't recall what he even did but I put him on computer and video game restriction. He goes to his grandmother's house for a night and I tell her that he is not allowed on the computer or play station. I get them back the next day and the youngest rats him and grandma out. I call grandma with a big ol' "what the hell?" She tells me that he asked to play on the computer and she told him no that he was on restriction and he busts out into tears telling her that I always spank him (mind you this is the kid that I've rarely every had to spank, the little one might have a case but not the oldest), I never let him do anything, etc. She bought it and let him do whatever he wanted. I should have just spanked him to begin with.

 

[BadGirl]

When that litte sucker got home that day I made him call his grandmother and his father and tell both of them what he had done.

What a positively wonderful idea!


I am soooo gonna do this, when the need arises.



Thank you!

 

[Baja28]

meh, being told you are wrong by the idiots on this board doens't have any meaning what so ever.

You can always pick out the clueless psycho's as the ones who stand alone and say everyone else on the board is a tard except for themselves.