The Breaking of The Divinci Code

[Penn]

We watched a segment of it in our Adult Sunday School class yesterday.

There were a number of disingenuous tales that Dan Brown posed as "facts" in his novel, that were unearthed by authors and theologians concerning his "truths".

He suggests that Mary Magdalene was, in fact, the Holy Grail, because she and Jesus had children, and thus she was the vessel of His blood. Ok.

That Divinci painted this same Mary Magdalene on a mural of the Last Supper, immediately to Jesus' right(instead of the disciple John). Ok.

These are but 2 of the 8 to 10 "true facts" Dan Brown would have you believe.

To be fair, there were some true statements used by this author, but after close examination by these experts mention above, many of his facts were skewed to a different timeframe.

Some as many as 200 years - before or after the event took place.

 

[vraiblonde]

Why is everyone so obsessed about a work of fiction?

 

[vraiblonde]

I'm curious now how many people have flocked to Roslyn Chapel to find Sophie and her grandmother.

 

[Penn]

Why is everyone so obsessed about a work of fiction?

Vrai, overall the work is tabbed as a fictional account.

Yes, Dan Brown even says that, "but" he uses a ton of supposed "facts" to support his theories that are not true, or, are skewed to a different timeframe.

I guess I should get used to the fact that NOTHING is sacred anymore!

Alright, cut to the chase: if Dan Brown's aim was to get Christians, and even those who were interested in joining a religion - into a church to seek answers - then he's done a good deed.

Hundred of churchs have held Wednesday night discussions over his $$$ making book series, and maybe the end result will be more folks will realize the the Word of Jesus is a wonderful thing to behold.

By dispelling the theories of Dan Brown, maybe more people will discover the truth about our Lord.

Hey, I'm for that!

 

[vraiblonde]

By dispelling the theories of Dan Brown, maybe more people will discover the truth about our Lord.

Frankly, what you're talking about is believing one book over another. But that's neither here nor there. I think the premise of The Davinci Code is fascinating - not so much the part about Jesus and Mary Magdalene, but the part about how the Church and various political leaders have skewed the story to suit their agenda.

I mean, certainly you realize that this has been done over the years (history being skewed to suit a purpose) because we see it happen right now in our own times.

 

[Geek]

Have you read anything else by Dan Brown?

 

[Penn]

Have you read anything else by Dan Brown?

If you're asking me - no, I cannot recall reading another of his books.

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Can't argue against what you're saying here. Human greed, emotions, trying to decide what's best for you to believe, have driven much of what our past ancestors have attempted to shove down our throats, concerning religious views.

Millions of people have died - defending their beliefs over religion, and that's a grievous shame.

To me, it's a desecration to invent facts, skewing what I believe happened in the early beginnings of Christianity. But that's just my thoughts.

I don't wish to be cavalier about it, but, I didn't live back in the Middle Ages when much of that injustice was taking place. I'm talking about religious persecution - where publicly going to church - could easily get you killed.

(like it's not happening today in China, Saudi Arabia and Africa )

I'm getting off the subject, I know. Let me just say that the myths Dan Brown purported to be true in his book, have been dealt a severe blow.

BTW, 2 authors (in the DVD that we watched) have accused plagiarism against Dan Brown, supposedly copying information from their works - nearly 25 years ago. One of them said there were one or two glaring mistakes he unintentionally put in his book, about the Holy Grail, and lo and behold, they are in Dan Brown's book.

 

[Geek]

If you're asking me - no, I cannot recall reading another of his books.

If you really want to piss yourself off read "Angels & Demons" by Dan Brown

 

[rack'm]

If you really want to piss yourself off read "Angels & Demons" by Dan Brown

I'm getting ready to actually.

 

[Penn]

I'm getting ready to actually.

You guys mind giving me a "book report" when you're done?

 

[rack'm]

You guys mind giving me a "book report" when you're done?

I hear it's a lot like The Divinci Code........

 

[Voter2002]

Yes, Dan Brown even says that, "but" he uses a ton of supposed "facts" to support his theories that are not true, or, are skewed to a different timeframe.

Facts???? support his theories???? Fer cryin out loud people...it was FICTION!!!!! And all this bellyaching from the churches about his book is their way of skewing things to fit their agenda and to draw more people to them so they can beat their drums to beat down the author and his demon book.

When a book is fiction, they can say anything they want and get away with it!!! But the church WANTS to say there are "facts" to be disputed to draw the crowd to them.

 

[nomoney]

I hear it's a lot like The Divinci Code........

it is, it's the prequil of sorts to the divinci code. Just introduces you to the langdon character from the davinci....


I've read deception point and digital fortress by him....both pretty good -but not at all along the same lines as the other two

 

[Nickel]

If you really want to piss yourself off read "Angels & Demons" by Dan Brown

I think I enjoyed that even more than The Da Vinci Code. He sure is a great storyteller.

 

[Penn]

Facts???? support his theories???? Fer cryin out loud people...it was FICTION!!!!! And all this bellyaching from the churches about his book is their way of skewing things to fit their agenda and to draw more people to them so they can beat their drums to beat down the author and his demon book.

When a book is fiction, they can say anything they want and get away with it!!! But the church WANTS to say there are "facts" to be disputed to draw the crowd to them.

Well, the deal is - Dan Brown made statements as to what took place at the Council of Nicea(sp?) for one. He said some things happened there, that official records say - did not happen.

He more than suggests that Divinci painted Mary Magdalene in place of John the disciple - trying to demonstrate her importance and influence on Jesus, as a basis for calling her the Holy Grail. Now, notes have been discovered in Italy, where Divinci was commissioned to paint that mural, notes depicting "practice drawings" that Divinci made prior to painting it.

They show pencil or pen drawings of the individuals in that mural of the Last Supper, and the person shown sitting to the right of Jesus was labeled JOHN.(in Italian, of course )

So, his interpretation of what Divinci was trying to say, a "code", if you will, was entirely BS.

One more thing - off hand - did you know the portrait "Mona Lisa" that Divinci painted - was not named by him(Divinci) as such? Someone else tagged that label on it a couple of centuries later!

I never knew that.

 

[Geek]

Facts???? support his theories???? Fer cryin out loud people...it was FICTION!!!!! And all this bellyaching from the churches about his book is their way of skewing things to fit their agenda and to draw more people to them so they can beat their drums to beat down the author and his demon book.

When a book is fiction, they can say anything they want and get away with it!!! But the church WANTS to say there are "facts" to be disputed to draw the crowd to them.

The Catholic Church rocks at fiction. Look into the "Pope's chair".

 

[desertrat]

The only "facts" that Dan Brown put in his work of fiction are after the title page where he tells about the Priory of Scion and Opus Dei. He then goes on to say that the descriptions of art work, architecture, documents and rituals are accurate.

 

[nomoney]

Well, the deal is - Dan Brown made statements as to what took place at the Council of Nicea(sp?) for one. He said some things happened there, that official records say - did not happen.

He more than suggests that Divinci painted Mary Magdalene in place of John the disciple - trying to demonstrate her importance and influence on Jesus, as a basis for calling her the Holy Grail. Now, notes have been discovered in Italy, where Divinci was commissioned to paint that mural, notes depicting "practice drawings" that Divinci made prior to painting it.

They show pencil or pen drawings of the individuals in that mural of the Last Supper, and the person shown sitting to the right of Jesus was labeled JOHN.(in Italian, of course )

So, his interpretation of what Divinci was trying to say, a "code", if you will, was entirely BS.

One more thing - off hand - did you know the portrait "Mona Lisa" that Divinci painted - was not named by him(Divinci) as such? Someone else tagged that label on it a couple of centuries later!

I never knew that.

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n.

1. 1. <LI type=a>An imaginative creation or a pretense that does not represent actuality but has been invented.
   2. The act of inventing such a creation or pretense.
2. A lie.
3. 1. A literary work whose content is produced by the imagination and is not necessarily based on fact.
   2. The category of literature comprising works of this kind, including novels and short stories.

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[Penn]

<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD>fic·tion

n.

1. 1. An imaginative creation or a pretense that does not represent actuality but has been invented.
   2. The act of inventing such a creation or pretense.
   A lie.
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   1. A literary work whose content is produced by the imagination and is not necessarily based on fact.
   2. The category of literature comprising works of this kind, including novels and short stories.

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That's going to sink in one of these days!

Besides, Brown accomplished exactly what he wanted to do: He made gazillions off the book, and stirred up a heck of a controversy.

Like I said earlier, he probably drove untold numbers of people to churchs, in order to find where it all comes down. Maybe some good will come of that.

 

[BadGirl]

Cheese and Rice.
I liked "The DaVinci Code". It was a great STORY. Not once while reading it did I believe it to be a true account of the history of the Catholic Church.