The Brothers of Jesus

[onel0126]

http://www.catholic365.com/article/2301/the-brothers-of-jesus.html

 

[cheezgrits]

Out of curiosity, where do you think the Catholic church, or any other church for that matter, stands on Mary Magdalene possibly being one of the disciples? I've done some limited looking but seem to get conflicting or vague
info.

 

[Radiant1]

Out of curiosity, where do you think the Catholic church, or any other church for that matter, stands on Mary Magdalene possibly being one of the disciples? I've done some limited looking but seem to get conflicting or vague
info.

She was one of numerous disciples. If you're asking if she was an apostle, then that's a different answer, which would be no. Scripture tells us specifically of 12 disciples that were especially chosen by Jesus (therefore becoming apostles). Mary is not one of them. There are 12 apostles because there were 12 tribes of Israel forming from the 12 sons of Jacob. Mary would kind of muck up that typology or foreshadowing, and the typology is important in regard to salvation history (God seems to like the typology stuff). Does that mean she wasn't special? Absolutely not, she was definitely special, and so was Mary Jesus' mother, Elizabeth, John the Baptist, and Lazarus as well, none of whom were the chosen 12.

 

[seekeroftruth]

Out of curiosity, where do you think the Catholic church, or any other church for that matter, stands on Mary Magdalene possibly being one of the disciples? I've done some limited looking but seem to get conflicting or vague
info.

Back in the days of Jesus, women were definitely second class citizens. Mary Magdalene was one of a few women who were devoted Followers of Christ. She left her old life behind and followed Him which is more than many could do.

I can't wait to meet her in Heaven. She'll have so many wonderful stories to share with all of us.

I'm actually praying that you will make it to the party!

 

[cheezgrits]

She was one of numerous disciples. If you're asking if she was an apostle, then that's a different answer, which would be no. Scripture tells us specifically of 12 disciples that were especially chosen by Jesus (therefore becoming apostles). Mary is not one of them. There are 12 apostles because there were 12 tribes of Israel forming from the 12 sons of Jacob. Mary would kind of muck up that typology or foreshadowing, and the typology is important in regard to salvation history (God seems to like the typology stuff). Does that mean she wasn't special? Absolutely not, she was definitely special, and so was Mary Jesus' mother, Elizabeth, John the Baptist, and Lazarus as well, none of whom were the chosen 12.

So I looked up and read what was called the Gospel of Mary. The 12s make sense. But just so I'm clear, even if she had written a gospel, she still would not be an apostle. Or am I all backwards?

 

[Radiant1]

So I looked up and read what was called the Gospel of Mary. The 12s make sense. But just so I'm clear, even if she had written a gospel, she still would not be an apostle. Or am I all backwards?

Correct. The Gospel writers are not necessarily the chosen 12 apostles (Mark and Luke for example). The Gospel of Mary is considered a Gnostic work, none of which were included in the canon for various reasons.

 

[b23hqb]

Out of curiosity, where do you think the Catholic church, or any other church for that matter, stands on Mary Magdalene possibly being one of the disciples? I've done some limited looking but seem to get conflicting or vague
info.

Mary, along with other Marys' (including mama to Jesus), along with numerous women mentioned but not named, were along for the entire three year ride following Jesus as his disciples (a follower/believer in, disciplined in).

I have always held the firm belief that the women who were always ministering to the Lord and probably the apostles as well, understood what Jesus was teaching far better then the men. The gospels and NT clear show that the women got it, the whole concept, up to his resurrection, better than the boys did. Those silly guys were always arguing who was the best, jostling for position to be the highest, etc., instead of just learning.

Women are an integral part of Christianity, on equal footing with men, only submitting obediently to men under the headship requirements of the church. Many will argue that concept, but to do so goes against biblical teachings.

 

[cheezgrits]

Correct. The Gospel writers are not necessarily the chosen 12 apostles (Mark and Luke for example). The Gospel of Mary is considered a Gnostic work, none of which were included in the canon for various reasons.

Awesome, thanks for helping me!

 

[cheezgrits]

Mary, along with other Marys' (including mama to Jesus), along with numerous women mentioned but not named, were along for the entire three year ride following Jesus as his disciples (a follower/believer in, disciplined in).

I have always held the firm belief that the women who were always ministering to the Lord and probably the apostles as well, understood what Jesus was teaching far better then the men. The gospels and NT clear show that the women got it, the whole concept, up to his resurrection, better than the boys did. Those silly guys were always arguing who was the best, jostling for position to be the highest, etc., instead of just learning.

Women are an integral part of Christianity, on equal footing with men, only submitting obediently to men under the headship requirements of the church. Many will argue that concept, but to do so goes against biblical teachings.

I kind of got that reading what Mary wrote. There was an almost different "tone" in the writing. Almost like she wasn't teaching or simply relaying information, but more like a "See? Understand? " type writing. Hard to explain. Thank you for your help and response.