"The Christian religion is very gentle"

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
2ndAmendment said:
I should know better than to bother to answer you, but if you would bother to read with comprehension it should be obvious to even you that with every day we get closer to the last day of this system of things. And the time line starts from Christ's ascension into heaven and not the writing of the gospels since that is when He left this system of things.
my reading comprehension is fine, but yours is obviously lacking if you think you answered my question.

It IS obvious that we are closer to the end, but not because of some doomsday that was predicted in any book, by any men. Instead becasue if we accept that this world can end, then every day moves us one day closer to the end. the things you sited in matthew were happening before and at the time of his writting, so what does it prove- nothing about the future.

now, back to your chicken littling :wench:
 

wxtornado

The Other White Meat
Homesick said:
Oh stop, you two are breaking my heart..

You gotta admit tho that it *is* funny. Truthfully, it doesn't matter at all to me, but this is the only section I get red karma in.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Midnightrider said:
my reading comprehension is fine, but yours is obviously lacking if you think you answered my question.

It IS obvious that we are closer to the end, but not because of some doomsday that was predicted in any book, by any men. Instead becasue if we accept that this world can end, then every day moves us one day closer to the end. the things you sited in matthew were happening before and at the time of his writting, so what does it prove- nothing about the future.

now, back to your chicken littling :wench:
Your reading comprehension is fine in your own mind. I think it is lacking. If it is not lacking, then, as I have suspected, you are just looking for a "fight." I am not obliged to give you one. Have a great life. In my opinion, your quality of afterlife is in question.

By the way, even if your reading comprehension is great, your spelling and English skills stink.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
2ndAmendment said:
Your reading comprehension is fine in your own mind. I think it is lacking. If it is not lacking, then, as I have suspected, you are just looking for a "fight." I am not obliged to give you one. Have a great life. In my opinion, your quality of afterlife is in question.

By the way, even if your reading comprehension is great, your spelling and English skills stink.
again you go straight attacking gramer (sp on porpoose) when you can't defend your statements.

And you are the one who replied o my post attacking my reading comprehension- so who is looking for a fight?
 

forever jewel

Green Eyed Lady
seriously though, I think this forum should not be used to force any particular religion on anyone, but to discuss a variety of religions. While I am a Catholic, I feel bad for any non-christian attempting to converse in this religion forum; they're ultimately battered with quotes from the bible and Christian beliefs, to which they do not believe, and shunned for discussing their own beliefs. It just doesn't seem fair.

Okay, now I feel better :huggy: Just wanted to get my opinion out there.
 

Toxick

Splat
forever jewel said:
they're ultimately battered with quotes from the bible and Christian beliefs, to which they do not believe,

This is not true.

There were some muslims who came in here a while back. At first they got slammed (and not by the people who are by and large known for their religious zeal) - but ultimately they didn't come in here to discuss Islam.

They came in here to debate about Christianity - and they went on to contradict anything that Christians said on the subject, explaining what it is that Christians really believe.

That got really annoying, really fast.


forever jewel said:
and shunned for discussing their own beliefs. It just doesn't seem fair.


Well unfortunately - the two biggest demographics around here, as far as religion goes, are atheists and christians.


If a Zoroastrian came in here, wanting some conversation, it's not that they're being "shunned" because they don't receive a warm reception... its because there aren't any other Zoroastrians here to ring in the welcome wagon.

That's not anybody's fault. It's just the way it is.

I would LOVE to see some religious diversity in here.... if only so that people would say that Christians are unfairly hogging the forum.




Plus, believe it or not, I do like reading and learning about other religions besides the one I think is right.
 

forever jewel

Green Eyed Lady
Toxick said:
I would LOVE to see some religious diversity in here.... if only so that people would say that Christians are unfairly hogging the forum.

They may not be unfairly hogging it now, but they sure dominate it.
 

wxtornado

The Other White Meat
And contrary to what some of you Christians have claimed, not all of us athiests are here spoiling for a fight - we're here to present other ideas for those readers of the forum who are "on the fence" and want to hear something different.
 

forever jewel

Green Eyed Lady
wxtornado said:
And contrary to what some of you Christians have claimed, not all of us athiests are here spoiling for a fight - we're here to present other ideas for those readers of the forum who are "on the fence" and want to hear something different.

And that should be welcomed into the forums. :yay:
 

Hessian

Well-Known Member
Preterists

I have a minor interest in Eschatology....and I have been curious about the branch called Preterists who claim that a number of the NT prophecies WERE already fulfilled within a Generation of Christ. (ie "I tell you the truth, some may not...)

They have really tried to address modern evangelical beliefs regarding the sequence of the rapture, tribulation, and millenium. IN no way are they discounting these events,...just trying to sort out the scriptural basis for them and the possible misinterpretation of scripture to fit the accepted dominant belief.

Any thoughts?
(I have NOT accepted their version of eschatology as of yet...no they are not a cult...and I will try to find a link that will help spell out their views)
 
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forever jewel

Green Eyed Lady
Hessian said:
I have a minor interest in Eschatology....and I have been curious about the branch called Preterists who claim that a number of the NT prophecies WERE already fulfilled within a Generation of Christ. (ie "I tell you the truth, some many not...)

They have really tried to address modern evangelical beliefs regarding the sequence of the rapture, tribulation, and millenium. IN no way are they discounting these events,...just trying to sort out the scriptural basis for them and the possible misinterpretation of scripture to fit the accepted dominant belief.

Any thoughts?
(I have NOT accepted their version of eschatology as of yet...no they are not a cult...and I will try to find a link that will help spell out their views)

Thanks! A link would be of further help since I am not too familar with eschatology. :yay:
 
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RadioPatrol

Guest
try this for research material, not all inclusive but in depth for sure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity

Christian divisions

There is a diversity of doctrines and practices among groups calling themselves Christian. These groups are sometimes classified under denominations, though for theological reasons many groups reject this classification system.[8] Christianity may be broadly represented as being divided into three main groupings:[9]

* Roman Catholicism: The Roman Catholic Church, the largest single body, includes the Latin Rite and totals more than 1 billion baptized members.[3]
* Eastern Christianity: Eastern Orthodox Churches, Oriental Orthodox Churches, the 100,000 member Assyrian Church of the East,[10] and others with a combined membership of more than 300 million baptized members.[3]
* Protestantism: Groups such as Anglicans, Lutherans, Reformed/Presbyterians, Congregational/United Church of Christ, Evangelical, Charismatic, Baptists, Methodists, Nazarenes, Anabaptists, Seventh-day Adventists and Pentecostals. The oldest of these separated from the Roman Catholic Church in the 16th century Protestant Reformation, followed in many cases by further divisions. Estimates of the total number of Protestants are very uncertain, partly because of the difficulty in determining which denominations should be placed in this category, but it seems to be unquestionable that Protestantism is the second major branch of Christianity (after Roman Catholicism) in number of followers.[3]
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
forever jewel said:
seriously though, I think this forum should not be used to force any particular religion on anyone, but to discuss a variety of religions. While I am a Catholic, I feel bad for any non-christian attempting to converse in this religion forum; they're ultimately battered with quotes from the bible and Christian beliefs, to which they do not believe, and shunned for discussing their own beliefs. It just doesn't seem fair.

Okay, now I feel better :huggy: Just wanted to get my opinion out there.
I don't consider quoting the Bible as "battering." The Bible is the authority by which a Christian learns and expresses authoritatively what being a Christian is, including the history and examples of the Old Testament. Proclaiming salvation through Jesus is a Christians duty; Jesus told us to do it (Matthew 28:16-20).

If people don't believe, that is OK. Christians are to proclaim; the Holy Spirit is responsible for the "hearing."
 
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RadioPatrol

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Yep

2ndAmendment said:
I don't consider quoting the Bible as "battering." The Bible is the authority by which a Christian learns and expresses authoritatively what being a Christian is, including the history and examples of the Old Testament. Proclaiming salvation through Jesus is a Christians duty; Jesus told us to do it (Matthew 28:16-20).

If people don't believe, that is OK. Christians are to proclaim; the Holy Spirit is responsible for the "hearing."


AMEN
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
forever jewel said:
seriously though, I think this forum should not be used to force any particular religion on anyone, but to discuss a variety of religions. While I am a Catholic, I feel bad for any non-christian attempting to converse in this religion forum; they're ultimately battered with quotes from the bible and Christian beliefs, to which they do not believe, and shunned for discussing their own beliefs. It just doesn't seem fair.

Okay, now I feel better :huggy: Just wanted to get my opinion out there.
Please tell me how anyone could possibly FORCE their religion on you in this forum?
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Another coward with their drive-by Karma.

Karma Coward said:
The Christian rel... 02-05-2007 10:05 AM shut up already- seriously

Unable to answer the question, so instead... Cheap pop shot.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Coward strikes again

Karma Coward said:
The Christian rel... 02-05-2007 12:22 PM Quit whining.

Ahhh... The coward that's whining about my whining and doesn't have the courage to tell me upfront to stop whining. :coffee:
 
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juggy4805

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2ndAmendment said:
Signs of the last days are all around us.
  • Persecution - even to death of Christians
  • seasons confused - snow in S. Calf.; 70's in Jan here
  • Growth of faithful - Pentecostal churches the fastest growing in the U.S.
  • Falling away of those that are wishy washy Christians.
  • Increase in lawlessness
  • People abandoning the Bible for false doctrine - ear tickling
I think time is getting short for this system of things; 20 - 30 years, 100 years tops, but I don't know and God has been known to delay or relent through the prayers of the righteous.

The things you listed have been happening for a very long time now. I don't see where they are more prevelant now than say 20 years ago. I fully believe in the bible but I don't feel the end is near honestly.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
juggy4805 said:
The things you listed have been happening for a very long time now. I don't see where they are more prevelant now than say 20 years ago. I fully believe in the bible but I don't feel the end is near honestly.
They certainly have been happening for a long time, but it has to do with frequency and other signs. It seems these kinds of things are happening at a greater rate like "birth pangs" or contractions get more frequent as the time for the baby to be born gets closer. I think they are happening more frequently. Also, the events in the Middle East, rise of Islam, the Islamic Mahdi prophesy, all come together to remind us to do His will; He is coming.

In the following, I use you, not referring to you specifically.

Whether the day of Jesus' return is in the next second or 1000 years from now is not the question. When will your life be required of you, and will you be doing His will? Will you be found to be a "good and faithful servant?" Do you have Jesus as Savior and Lord, or is He just some myth to you. Those are pertinent now and until Jesus comes.
 
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