The forced return to the office is the definition of insanity

[RoseRed]

I don't KNOW them. I used to - when our groups were put together. If I am at work, none of my co-workers are there - the schedules are staggered, because too few desks to sit at. So even when I go in, no one I work with is in.

The people who sit near me - when I am in - some of them don't speak much English. And they don't want to fraternize.

It really WAS different, thirty plus years ago, when we would go to the bar after work or play softball. They plowed over the fields, the bar is gone, and the people I knew have left.

Yeah, it's sad, but the few people I do know - work is like that, for them too. It's a place to show up and go home.

My co-worker had a close tie to my sister. We all laughed after a field trip.

After today's FF loss, too sad to comment on.

 

[my-thyme]

Working from home requires a huge amount of discipline. Same thing with my entire postal career. Often worked by myself in a small office. Plenty of slow time to read. But getting the work done first was #1.

Saw a lot of people fail at that. Left alone, they pittled first, then scrambled to get the work done. Couldn't make themselves do the work first without having someone watching over them.

 

[gary_webb]

I'd be good with the employees coming in to work and the Program and Project Managers staying home.

I wish I could give this at least 100 thumbs up.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I'd be good with the employees coming in to work and the Program and Project Managers staying home.

you know every time my management has an "offsite" things actually run smoother than normal.

 

[Merlin99]

I’ve never had a hands off type of job, so I couldn’t say if I’d have the discipline to do it.

 

[Grumpy]

Fortunately, I like most of my co-workers.

Never had a job where I disliked my co-workers, a few bosses, yeah..I am strictly telework now and I know I am far more productive working at home than in the office. Took a few months for me to get used to working from home but I like it now, especially with the commute of 50 feets as opposed to 90 miles daily. When in the office, it was usually 8 hours and I was out the door, now I probably average 9-10 hours daily.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Never had a job where I disliked my co-workers, a few bosses, yeah..I am strictly telework now and I know I am far more productive working at home than in the office. Took a few months for me to get used to working from home but I like it now, especially with the commute of 50 feets as opposed to 90 miles daily. When in the office, it was usually 8 hours and I was out the door, now I probably average 9-10 hours daily.

I like that I can roll out of bed 15 minutes before my normal start time, I can work in my pajamas or even underwear, and I can put a load of two of laundry in while I work. Also enjoy having decent toilet paper and using my own toilet if I got to poop.

 

[GURPS]

There is no logical reason for me to return. Except possibly someone's ego needs stroking.

There is no reason for huge numbers of people to return to the office except CONTROL ... mid level managers justifying their existence and extroverts who need to show off how wonderful they are

 

[Kinnakeet]

I'm retired, don't have an vested interest in this either way, but I get the distinct feeling that the biggest reason for not wanting to go back to the office is a direct impact on personal lifestyle. Real easy to pretend you're 'working' when you're working on house projects, taking trips to the store, on the boat, doing personal things.... easy to schedule around those Zoom meetings to make it look good and cell phone gives you instant access no matter where you are or what your doing. And yeah, maybe no one is missing deadlines, but is that the premise you were hired under? It's a fine ethical line. Has anyone you know doing this told their boss they are doing this? Of course not, because it feels like cheating, might even get you fired.

I know a Gal that lost her Govt' job because she went shopping 2 many times while appearing she was doing work from home and you know how hard it is to get fired from the Govt'.

 

[Kinnakeet]

I get so much more done at home. There I can do my work and be left alone, when I'm in the office I constantly have people stopping by wanting to BS, asking me how to do this or that, bitching about how someone else isn't doing their job etc. I get my work done at home. When I have a big task that needs done in a short amount of time I say "I'm going home with this where I can work without interruption" and that is the only way I am able to complete that task without being interrupted.

Now I had a coworker that was supposed to do a project, after 5 months he announced he had another job, his project got dumped on me and I was told its all done you just need to babysit it. Turned out he had done nothing during that 5 months but watched porn and ate Doritos. It took me two months to do what was supposed to be already done. Another coworker was called when he was working from home, was supposed to be doing training and he was awoken from a deep sleep.

So it's dependent on the person.

whoa whoa whoa...Porn and Dorito's make Lay's and Im in...lol

 

[Gilligan]

I don’t see this as strictly a productivity issue. There is the social aspect of it- people need physical and social interaction that an office gives.

I keep telling SGI this.

Over and over...

 

[Kyle]

I don’t see this as strictly a productivity issue. There is the social aspect of it- people need physical and social interaction that an office gives.

That's just SICK!!!!

 

[DaSDGuy]

I don’t see this as strictly a productivity issue. There is the social aspect of it- people need physical and social interaction that an office gives.

No, I don't.

 

[Sneakers]

In the end, the only opinion that matters is the employer's opinion.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I know a Gal that lost her Govt' job because she went shopping 2 many times while appearing she was doing work from home and you know how hard it is to get fired from the Govt'.

Not that difficult, she just had a good supervisor that actually put in the work to do it.

 

[herb749]

From what I know and heard from places I worked was, you could be a hard worker and get your job done while others ruin it by going shopping or taking their kids to the pool or amusement park. A few slackers cause everyone to get pulled back in.

Other than that companies have these big buildings that are half empty and unless they want to move out or downsize want it being used.

 

[stgislander]

In the end, the only opinion that matters is the employer's opinion.

Does it???

 

[Gilligan]

Does it???

We're only one step removed from being gods.

 

[Merlin99]

Maybe this is a good thing, while everyone is teleworking they can distribute the feds out of DC. Move the FIBs to Topeka, the treasury to Omaha, the Pentagon to San Antonio, Homeland security to Phoenix...

 

[CRHS89]

Like with everything else, I think some people thrive working at home while others either don't like it at all or don't do their work as they should. I am much more productive at home. I am easily distracted so I always found myself listening to others' conversations or phone calls even though I tried not to. We are required to go in the office 1-2 days a week. When I am in there, coworkers are always stopping by my desk to catch up, so there are chunks of time that little work gets done.