The IA Cacuses

[Clem72]

Seems pretty simple to me, have you ever read Matthew 7:1?

Ken, most of the time you put out some well reasoned responses and genuinely informative content. But this is not one of those times. The whole point of an election is to pick a candidate, to judge their worthiness for the position. I am going to pretend for a moment that you actually know that Matthew 7:1 means that you shouldn't presume to pronounce God's judgement, I.E. you shouldn't tell Trump he's going to hell because he committed adultery. That's not the same as saying "I choose not to support this guy that is doing stuff my faith says they shouldn't". If you can't see the difference, well maybe you need to go to church a bit more often.

 

[SamSpade]

If my criteria for supporting a candidate hinged on their personal righteousness - I'd never go to the polls. SERIOUSLY. I don't vote for a person because he's "the most Christian man out there". (Biden from where I sit has enriched himself GREATLY while in office - and it sure isn't from speaking engagements).

Even David - whom the LORD described as 'one after His own heart' - did awful things - like send a man needlessly into the forefront of battle so he would DIE and he could have his wife. Willfully disbeyed God in counting the people. Moses - the prophet whom the Bible says there will never be another - sinned repeatedly against God and was forbidden to enter the Promised Land. Solomon - the wisest man who ever lived - still turned to idolatry.

And these were the GOOD ones.

If I hire someone for a job - I don't care about his morals unless it interferes with his ability to do the job I hire him for. We are hiring a President.

It's the left's favorite tool to divide people into categories and find their voting preference. For some reason, "white evangelicals" are in their crosshairs. They didn't ask about Muslims or atheists or agnostics. They picked a category they already don't like and found a reason to hate them more.

But - let's turn it around - can ANYONE think of a reason a "white evangelical Christian" would CHOOSE Biden? Not because he's not Trump - but actually pick him on purpose?

 

[SamSpade]

Ken, most of the time you put out some well reasoned responses and genuinely informative content

Indeed he does - sometimes I might be better off just asking HIM a question, first.

I'm gonna hate the day he says "enough of this sh!t" and leaves the forum.

 

[stgislander]

Trey Gowdy made an interesting comment last night about evangelicals sticking with Trump. "I used to wonder if you are a believer that participates in the political process, or are you a Republican who goes to church. The Republicans that go to church, you can call them evangelicals if you want, they want to win."

 

[Ken King]

Ken, most of the time you put out some well reasoned responses and genuinely informative content. But this is not one of those times. The whole point of an election is to pick a candidate, to judge their worthiness for the position. I am going to pretend for a moment that you actually know that Matthew 7:1 means that you shouldn't presume to pronounce God's judgement, I.E. you shouldn't tell Trump he's going to hell because he committed adultery. That's not the same as saying "I choose not to support this guy that is doing stuff my faith says they shouldn't". If you can't see the difference, well maybe you need to go to church a bit more often.

Well, I probably should go to church more often, if I could find one without their vices and agendas that I see as contrary to a Christian belief of forgiveness. But I do appreciate your judgemental tone though.

My understanding of the meaning of Matthew 7:1 is that (and I'll borrow this from a commentary I read) - "What Jesus means by judge is to take offense at another person’s actions, words, expressions, etc. Do not keep track of the wrongs of another. Do not judge another person’s behavior or attitude to see if they are morally wrong and you are morally superior."

 

[stgislander]

So Trump had ND governor Doug Burgum on stage last night hinting at a position in his administration. Thoughts?

I didn't have him on my card for Veep. Sec of Ag or Interior maybe.

 

[Ken King]

I'm gonna hate the day he says "enough of this sh!t" and leaves the forum.

You will know when that happens as there will be one last post, but it will be on the main SOMD.com page under Obituaries.

 

[SamSpade]

If freedom of religion was an issue I voted on - the Democratic Party has nothing to offer.
They've shown that religious freedom means nothing if it hinders their agenda.

 

[Ken King]

So Trump had ND governor Doug Burgum on stage last night hinting at a position in his administration. Thoughts?

I didn't have him on my card for Veep. Sec of Ag or Interior maybe.

Whatever it is I suspect it will be a step up from the incumbent.

 

[SamSpade]

So Trump had ND governor Doug Burgum on stage last night hinting at a position in his administration. Thoughts?

I didn't have him on my card for Veep. Sec of Ag or Interior maybe.

STILL thinking it's Noem. Hate to say it, but he needs one demographic he still has a hard time winning - suburban women.
Her recent appearances near him suggest she might be vying for the spot.

 

[Clem72]

But I do appreciate your judgemental tone though.

My understanding of the meaning of Matthew 7:1 is that (and I'll borrow this from a commentary I read) - "What Jesus means by judge is to take offense at another person’s actions, words, expressions, etc. Do not keep track of the wrongs of another. Do not judge another person’s behavior or attitude to see if they are morally wrong and you are morally superior."

Hey, i'm not religious so all I do is judge people and throw the stones. That said, I can appreciate that you don't keep track of other's wrong doings. On a completely unrelated note, can I borrow $20?

 

[Ken King]

On a completely unrelated note, can I borrow $20?

Sure, interest begins now (simple 5% an hour), terms require that you walk here so that I can see you are truly in need, you must obtain my location on your own and if not present here within 15 days the contract will be in default and you will be subject to a $5,000 fine on top of the amount owed from principal and interest.

I'm not religious either and now some will think I'm not financially savvy.

 

[Kyle]

Sure, interest begins now (simple 5% an hour), terms require that you walk here so that I can see you are truly in need, you must obtain my location on your own and if not present here within 15 days the contract will be in default and you will be subject to a $5,000 fine on top of the amount owed from principal and interest.

I'm not religious either and now some will think I'm not financially savvy.

That 5% is compound-fracture interest, correct?

 

[Clem72]

Sure, interest begins now (simple 5% an hour), terms require that you walk here so that I can see you are truly in need, you must obtain my location on your own and if not present here within 15 days the contract will be in default and you will be subject to a $5,000 fine on top of the amount owed from principal and interest.

I'm not religious either and now some will think I'm not financially savvy.

Boyo, you try to put terms like that on a loan and you are going to owe a lot of money to the state.

Legal Maximum Rate of Interest	6% (Const. Art. III §57); up to 8% in written agreement (Com. Law §12-103)
Penalty for Usury (Unlawful Interest Rate)	Forfeit 3 times excess of interest and charges collected or $500, whichever is greater (Com. Law §12-114)
Interest Rates on Judgments	10%; money judgment may carry contract rate until originally scheduled maturity date (Cts. & Jud. Proc. §11-106, 107, 301)

 

[Ken King]

That 5% is compound-fracture interest, correct?

Don't know, I said some of you would think I'm not financially savvy. Trust me, I'm not.

Boyo, you try to put terms like that on a loan and you are going to owe a lot of money to the state.

Legal Maximum Rate of Interest	6% (Const. Art. III §57); up to 8% in written agreement (Com. Law §12-103)
Penalty for Usury (Unlawful Interest Rate)	Forfeit 3 times excess of interest and charges collected or $500, whichever is greater (Com. Law §12-114)
Interest Rates on Judgments	10%; money judgment may carry contract rate until originally scheduled maturity date (Cts. & Jud. Proc. §11-106, 107, 301)

Which state? I could meet you at a place where you would stand in PA and MD while I stand in PA and WV as we execute the loan, kind of be a jurisdictional headache.

 

[Clem72]

Don't know, I said some of you would think I'm not financially savvy. Trust me, I'm not.

Which state? I could meet you at a place where you would stand in PA and MD while I stand in PA and WV as we execute the loan, kind of be a jurisdictional headache.

Think I will go back to panhandling on 245, much easier

 

[stgislander]

Which state? I could meet you at a place where you would stand in PA and MD while I stand in PA and WV as we execute the loan, kind of be a jurisdictional headache.

I thinks that's private property. Better ask first.

 

[Ken King]

I thinks that's private property. Better ask first.

Probably, though it might be that one of those kiddie smuggling tunnels is there.

 

[vraiblonde]

STILL thinking it's Noem. Hate to say it, but he needs one demographic he still has a hard time winning - suburban women.
Her recent appearances near him suggest she might be vying for the spot.

It's already been proven that Dembot women vote for the Dem. Just like Dembot black people vote for the Dem. It doesn't matter of the GOP candidate "looks like them", they vote for the Democrat and that's that.

Trump should choose whoever is going to be loyal to us, the American people who voted for him, and not sell us out. If that's a one eyed one horned flying purple people eater, so be it.

 

[stgislander]

Probably, though it might be that one of those kiddie smuggling tunnels is there.

Check with PJay then.